[A Killjoy :x]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

So, rather than defending all of your anti-My Chemical Romance point of views, you've chosen to talk about religion. This thread is about My Chemical Romance, and if we've come here to challenge you in religion, I think we would have chosen a different thread, or probably a different website/community. But no, we came here because we love this band and we think your opinions are ridiculous. So please, shut the eff up about your religion and your god.

I think you've lost your point. You don't know what else to argue about MCR. All your doing is stating your argument. Which, in fact, isn't even valid, as it's all just opinions. Got any true, hard facts? No? Well find some, then tell us that these innocent musicians are 'devil-worshiping', 'satanic', 'emo', 'only care about their profits', and 'telling kids to kill themselves'. Honestly, I'd like to hear any VALID arguments. Kthx.

[Jedediah]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

doesn't that make God Himself a hypocrite? "he" says he loves us all and forgives us whatever we do

Does He? Please point out where I overlooked this in my last dozen readings of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611). I was under the impression that you have to accept Christ as your personal LORD and Savior and to stop sinning in order to receive His love and forgiveness (Scripture available upon request).

Young miss, have you read the Bible for yourself, or are you just basing your understanding of God's Word on hearsay and conjecture?

If you haven't, I suggest doing so. It will irrevocably change your notions of what it means to be a Christian.

[MyChemSAVEDME]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

When we die, we essentially cease to know anything (e.g., Ecclesiastes 9:5). During the last days (see Revelation chapters 20-22), however, God will resurrect the dead and judge them according to their works (Revelation 20:13). The righteous shall join God in Heaven, and the wicked shall be cast into the lake of fire, where they will endure unfathomable torments for all eternity (Revelation 20:15).

What kind of sadistic monster do you take God to be, that He would resurrect those He loves from essential nothingness, only to cast them He loves into eternal hellfire?

God is clearly selective about whom He loves.

John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Romans 9:15-16
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

The bottom line is this: Pucker up, or burn.

doesn't that make God Himself a hypocrite? "he" says he loves us all and forgives us whatever we do, the only people who I believe to go to hell is;
Rapists and Murders.

The rest are okay.

also may I ask why do you believe that "Hell" Is all fire lakes and volcanoes?

Personally I believe hell is were you're taken away from light, the ones you love and you're forced to speaks forever by your self in darkness..

"What kind of sadistic monster do you take God to be"

LOL.

[Jedediah]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

You don't understand, do you?

No. I understand perfectly well. You claim to be a Christian. My question to you is this:

In what sense? What does it mean to you to be a Christian, and how is this different from some apostasy like "secular humanism"?

[rebecca.arthur]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

What does it mean to you to be a Christian? How do you know that you are following the Word of God instead of just making your own version of "god" up in your imagination and projecting it onto the trappings of whatever church you happen to have been raised in?

Where do God, Jesus, original sin and total depravity, signs and wonders, Salvation through sanctification of the Spirit, and the Second Coming of Jesus factor into your belief system?

What is the difference between your interpretation of what it means to be a Christian and what would otherwise normally be defined as "secular humanism"?

You don't understand, do you? Beliefs are different, did my little paragraph on how beliefs are something you hold as true but cannot prove mean anything to you? How do you know your oh so precious bible is real, and not just written by some guy thousands and thousands of years ago?

Just try listen to me please. I have not made up my own version of God. I believe in the same God you do, just not the tellings of the bible. I do not go to church, I have got my own beliefs myself. I can do what I like, listen to what I like and love who I love. If I choose to love My Chemical Romance, I will, and people telling me I'm going to hell for it doesn't faze me. I love MCR, and I always will. Stop quoting the bible because I don't believe in it, so it doesn't matter to me.

No, I don't care either that I'm not a 'True Christian' or whatever, because nobody can judge, question, nor change who I am.

Thank you very much.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

YOU CANNOT DESTROY ME.

[Jedediah]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

either way god loves us no matter what happens.

When we die, we essentially cease to know anything (e.g., Ecclesiastes 9:5). During the last days (see Revelation chapters 20-22), however, God will resurrect the dead and judge them according to their works (Revelation 20:13). The righteous shall join God in Heaven, and the wicked shall be cast into the lake of fire, where they will endure unfathomable torments for all eternity (Revelation 20:15).

What kind of sadistic monster do you take God to be, that He would resurrect those whom He loves from essential nothingness, only to cast them He loves into eternal hellfire?

God is clearly selective about whom He loves.

John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Romans 9:15-16
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

The bottom line is this: Pucker up, or burn.

[MyChemSAVEDME]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

He laughs all the way to the bank in the Bentley of his manager.


And you people as the petulant of pigeons

Get your money back from the 'Collage'. You got ripped off.

No, they are the most hypocritical, of bottom feeders. The epitome of charlatans.

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You do realise that playing in the band is his JOB? he still needs money to go towards his family? you know, his wife and child! they're all married so i think they need money to go towards the family or if they want to start the family up.

I meant "college" And also, I'm in high-school.

they ain't Hypocritical at all, my god.
These are the reasons I've lost faith in humanity, people like you guys. and other people jumping to conclusion without knowing nothing about the band.

[MyChemSAVEDME]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

And that's exactly what we're doing. If I was heading toward eternal damnation, I would want someone to warn me before it was too late, like we are trying to warn you.

Jude 1:22-23
And of some have compassion, making a difference:
And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.



This is an example of why you should read the Holy Bible (KJV1611) for yourself instead of just basing your understanding of God's Word on hearsay and conjecture. God prohibits hypocritical judgment, and we will be judged in kind.


Leviticus 19:15
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30
The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

As Blood-Bought children of the Lamb, however, we abide in righteousness and perfection, so there is no hypocrisy in our righteous judgments. For more information on this topic, please read Rev. Osborne's sermon:
The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)




God's Word does not change.

Maybe gods words don't

Psalm 117:2
For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

I Peter 1:23-25
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever.
For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you

You sir, are funny.
The bible is a book based on diffrent lessons, I don't believe in every single thing in there.. I only believe in some quotes that I will be using in every day life. We don't need warning in our own life, God want's us to be happy and take the path we want that could be a bad one or good one.. either way god loves us no matter what happens.
Also I don't want to read the holy bible! we can take it's teachings onto our own life but not everything..
Look at how it's wrong to be gay, times have changed because Gay is right? Basicly you're allowed to be an open gay.

[Jedediah]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

I am a Christian, but I haven't let religion, things that haven't been proven change the way I think. I am me, and I think the way I think, look the way I look, love what I love and listen to what I like. Religion is a belief, and a belief is something that isn't proven but you hold as true. So you can believe what you want, but you cannot go around telling people what is right and wrong, what they should believe in, because a belief is what YOU specifically hold as true. That does not mean that anybody else does.

What does it mean to you to be a Christian? How do you know that you are following the Word of God instead of just making your own version of "god" up in your imagination and projecting it onto the trappings of whatever church you happen to have been raised in?

Where do God, Jesus, original sin and total depravity, signs and wonders, Salvation through sanctification of the Spirit, and the Second Coming of Jesus factor into your belief system?

What is the difference between your interpretation of what it means to be a Christian and what would otherwise normally be defined as "secular humanism"?

[rebecca.arthur]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

Why do you hate God? Is it because your life is miserable and pointless and you are jealous of the joy all True Christians™ feel?

I don't hate God. You are trying to make it seem like I hate God, but in fact, it is how judgemental and awful society is, and it is people like you who are making me hate society. Anybody should be able to feel welcome in society, not shunned out, or made to seem like devil worshipping monsters.

I am a Christian, but I haven't let religion, things that haven't been proven change the way I think. I am me, and I think the way I think, look the way I look, love what I love and listen to what I like. Religion is a belief, and a belief is something that isn't proven but you hold as true. So you can believe what you want, but you cannot go around telling people what is right and wrong, what they should believe in, because a belief is what YOU specifically hold as true. That does not mean that anybody else does.

[Jedediah]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

It doesn't come out and say that.. But doesn't it say "respect others how you would like to be treated?"
Doesn't that stand for that?

And that's exactly what we're doing. If I was heading toward eternal damnation, I would want someone to warn me before it was too late, like we are trying to warn you.

Jude 1:22-23
And of some have compassion, making a difference:
And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

"Thy shall not judge"

Don't Judge someone's style, someone's life.. List goes on...

This is an example of why you should read the Holy Bible (KJV1611) for yourself instead of just basing your understanding of God's Word on hearsay and conjecture. God prohibits hypocritical judgment, and we will be judged in kind.

Leviticus 19:15
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30
The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

As Blood-Bought children of the Lamb, however, we abide in righteousness and perfection, so there is no hypocrisy in our righteous judgments. For more information on this topic, please read Rev. Osborne's sermon:
The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

You need to remember we ain't in the 18th century any-more! Things change and so does things in the bible.. some times things are better off changing then staying the same...

God's Word does not change.

Psalm 117:2
For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

I Peter 1:23-25
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which liveth and abideth forever.
For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

I have not been taught to be so judgemental,

Not by God, you haven't.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

If you won't read the Bible, at least read the thread.

[MyChemSAVEDME]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

Please show me the documentation showing how they have donated all the proceeds from their albums, tours, etc. to charity.

If they aren't in it for the money, then they should be donating the money, don't you agree?

Because you're so judgemental why didn't you do some research about the band! they've done loads of stuff!

Look it up your self;
They've done suicide awareness
Sing it for Japan
Raise awareness for parkinsons
RSPCA
make a wish foundation.
Bullying awareness
ect.
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YAY! Go do some of your own research now!

[James Hutchins]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

I am not an athiest. I do believe that there may be a God, and that there may or may not be a heaven and a hell but I have not been taught to be so judgemental, I have not been told what I should believe in,and what I should like. I have been given the choice to make my own decisions, and not follow every single thing that the bible says you must do, or must believe. I believe anybody should be accepted no matter their gender, sexuality, race, religion, music taste or how they wish to live their lives.

Why do you hate God? Is it because your life is miserable and pointless and you are jealous of the joy all True Christians(tm) feel?

[rebecca.arthur]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

Ah, so you're an atheist. Or say you are.

So why would you even ponder what Hell will be like, since you believe it's not waiting for you?

I am not an athiest. I do believe that there may be a God, and that there may or may not be a heaven and a hell but I have not been taught to be so judgemental, I have not been told what I should believe in,and what I should like. I have been given the choice to make my own decisions, and not follow every single thing that the bible says you must do, or must believe. I believe anybody should be accepted no matter their gender, sexuality, race, religion, music taste or how they wish to live their lives.