[James Hutchins]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

I believe in God and the afterlife, not because I want them to be there (it would be nice if they were though) but because I see them as different to the bible. The bible is a book, that could have been written by anybody, and I don't believe it could have been written on true events, because it was so long ago, how would you know? The afterlife I believe in because I think they are there basically, I believe there is something waiting for you when you die. I'm not sure what it is, but I do believe something awaits you. Reincarnation would be lovely, and I do want that, but I don't believe that is what happens. I believe in God, because I was brought up believing in God, so of course I believe in Him. I don't believe he set down rules, or orders though, because God loves everyone equally; why would he have made you different if he didn't want you there? Exactly.

So you are not a Christian, you just make up God as you go, right?

[James Hutchins]

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Oh for the love of Geebus! A JOB IS SO SOMEONE CAN GET BY, PAY THERE B BILLS. WERE ELSE ARE THEY GETTING THE MONEY FROM!? THE GUTTERS?
(okay, caps over.)

My Chemical Romance SAVE LIFE'S! Why will non of you acknowledge that?

And yes, it's a very lovely house. A beautiful house to start a family in

That looks like a terrific place to save lives. Write Gerard and tell him you want to be saved by him and that you will be moving in. See how long it takes for him to get a restraint order against you.
All those 'stories' of them 'saving' people are PR ruse. How can you not see that? Same reason Juston Beiber is who you girls cream over like boys used to over Britney. All scripted.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Oh for the love of Geebus! A JOB IS SO SOMEONE CAN GET BY, PAY THERE B BILLS. WERE ELSE ARE THEY GETTING THE MONEY FROM!? THE GUTTERS?
(okay, caps over.)

My Chemical Romance SAVE LIFE'S! Why will non of you acknowledge that?

And yes, it's a very lovely house. A beautiful house to start a family in

Now provide the evidence that they are "not in it for the money".

[rebecca.arthur]

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First, would that not be better satisfied by pantheism, as espoused by Philip Pullman in the blasphemous "His Dark Materials" trilogy, and second, why do you believe in either God or an afterlife? Because you want them to be there, and you want them to be exactly what you want them to be?

Objective reality doesn't work that way, Rebecca. If you're going to claim you believe in God (that's a proper noun, a name, referencing the God of the Bible), then why would you not obey Him?

I believe in God and the afterlife, not because I want them to be there (it would be nice if they were though) but because I see them as different to the bible. The bible is a book, that could have been written by anybody, and I don't believe it could have been written on true events, because it was so long ago, how would you know? The afterlife I believe in because I think they are there basically, I believe there is something waiting for you when you die. I'm not sure what it is, but I do believe something awaits you. Reincarnation would be lovely, and I do want that, but I don't believe that is what happens. I believe in God, because I was brought up believing in God, so of course I believe in Him. I don't believe he set down rules, or orders though, because God loves everyone equally; why would he have made you different if he didn't want you there? Exactly.

[MyChemSAVEDME]

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Then you believe in God but ignore His Word, the Bible. And you believe He is so powerless as to be unable to cure cancer in an individual, even though He created the universe.

You live as though there is no God, so why not just admit that you don't really believe in Him?

No. You made the assertion that "they are not in it for the money". The burden of proof is on you.

Doing a few benefit concerts and public service announcements is standard operating procedure for bands. I want evidence that, as you claimed, "they are not in it for the money". That would only be demonstrated by their donating the bulk of the money they earn through their "music".


I thought you said he wasn't in it for the money.

Why do people have jobs? FOR THE MONEY.



Nice house. Wanna guess whose it is?

Oh for the love of Geebus! A JOB IS SO SOMEONE CAN GET BY, PAY THERE B BILLS. WERE ELSE ARE THEY GETTING THE MONEY FROM!? THE GUTTERS?
(okay, caps over.)

My Chemical Romance SAVE LIFE'S! Why will non of you acknowledge that?

And yes, it's a very lovely house. A beautiful house to start a family in

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!!

Would you pray to God or go to a concert, given the choice?

Since she appears to be a pantheist, Brother, she could do both at the same time and just decide Gerard Way is an expression of the all-pervasive sacredness of the universe, or some such.

[Jedediah]

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Most of my family are Christians, I have been raised as a Christian, except my family have given me freedom to make my own choices, rather than they tell me what I must like and what I must believe.

Your parents sound like horrible people. We call them Christians In Name Only (CHINOs). If they knew that they would be incapable of providing a good Biblically based environment for you, why didn't they find a suitable adoptive family for you? There are many Christian couples who can't have children but who would love to adopt and impress their Biblical beliefs onto an impressionable young mind.

Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

[James Hutchins]

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Who is this false messiah you say I worship and follow? I do not worship My Chemical Romance, they are my heroes, and my inspiration. I don't follow them, I stand by them, because they are humans too, mortals, not Gods. The Killjoys and MCRmy do not try make out that they are Gods. We see them as heroes and inspiration as I said. Slight difference there.

Would you pray to God or go to a concert, given the choice?

[rebecca.arthur]

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You sure do hate God. You refute the Christian way of life, you follow and worship a false messiah. God is not a matter of convenience.

Who is this false messiah you say I worship and follow? I do not worship My Chemical Romance, they are my heroes, and my inspiration. I don't follow them, I stand by them, because they are humans too, mortals, not Gods. The Killjoys and MCRmy do not try make out that they are Gods. We see them as heroes and inspiration as I said. Slight difference there.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I do believe in God, and the afterlife. That is the difference.

First, would that not be better satisfied by pantheism, as espoused by Philip Pullman in the blasphemous "His Dark Materials" trilogy, and second, why do you believe in either God or an afterlife? Because you want them to be there, and you want them to be exactly what you want them to be?

Objective reality doesn't work that way, Rebecca. If you're going to claim you believe in God (that's a proper noun, a name, referencing the God of the Bible), then why would you not obey Him?

[James Hutchins]

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You do realise that playing in the band is his JOB? he still needs money to go towards his family? you know, his wife and child! they're all married so i think they need money to go towards the family or if they want to start the family up.

I meant "college" And also, I'm in high-school.

they ain't Hypocritical at all, my god.
These are the reasons I've lost faith in humanity, people like you guys. and other people jumping to conclusion without knowing nothing about the band.

Sure thing. Bentleys, Ferrari's and private jets are not cheap. Perfectly understandable. Certainly not hypocritical. Just the necessities and share the rest of their good fortune.

I am sure you are still in high school. Probably for some time to come too.

We know a lot about them. We have seen 'behind the scenes'. God bares all Truths to those that truly follow Him.

[MyChemSAVEDME]

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So, rather than defending all of your anti-My Chemical Romance point of views, you've chosen to talk about religion. This thread is about My Chemical Romance, and if we've come here to challenge you in religion, I think we would have chosen a different thread, or probably a different website/community. But no, we came here because we love this band and we think your opinions are ridiculous. So please, shut the eff up about your religion and your god.

I think you've lost your point. You don't know what else to argue about MCR. All your doing is stating your argument. Which, in fact, isn't even valid, as it's all just opinions. Got any true, hard facts? No? Well find some, then tell us that these innocent musicians are 'devil-worshiping', 'satanic', 'emo', 'only care about their profits', and 'telling kids to kill themselves'. Honestly, I'd like to hear any VALID arguments. Kthx.

THANK YOU! SOMEONE WHO'S MADE NONSENSE IN THIS WHOLE THREAD!

[rebecca.arthur]

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No. I understand perfectly well. You claim to be a Christian. My question to you is this:

In what sense? What does it mean to you to be a Christian, and how is this different from some apostasy like "secular humanism"?

Most of my family are Christians, I have been raised as a Christian, except my family have given me freedom to make my own choices, rather than they tell me what I must like and what I must believe.

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. However, Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists - the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. I do believe in God, and the afterlife. That is the difference.

[James Hutchins]

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I don't hate God. You are trying to make it seem like I hate God, but in fact, it is how judgemental and awful society is, and it is people like you who are making me hate society. Anybody should be able to feel welcome in society, not shunned out, or made to seem like devil worshipping monsters.

I am a Christian, but I haven't let religion, things that haven't been proven change the way I think. I am me, and I think the way I think, look the way I look, love what I love and listen to what I like. Religion is a belief, and a belief is something that isn't proven but you hold as true. So you can believe what you want, but you cannot go around telling people what is right and wrong, what they should believe in, because a belief is what YOU specifically hold as true. That does not mean that anybody else does.

You sure do hate God. You refute the Christian way of life, you follow and worship a false messiah. God is not a matter of convenience.
1st Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1st Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I am not an athiest. I do believe that there may be a God, and that there may or may not be a heaven and a hell but I have not been taught to be so judgemental, I have not been told what I should believe in,and what I should like. I have been given the choice to make my own decisions, and not follow every single thing that the bible says you must do, or must believe. I believe anybody should be accepted no matter their gender, sexuality, race, religion, music taste or how they wish to live their lives.

Then you believe in God but ignore His Word, the Bible. And you believe He is so powerless as to be unable to cure cancer in an individual, even though He created the universe.

You live as though there is no God, so why not just admit that you don't really believe in Him?

Because you're so judgemental why didn't you do some research about the band! they've done loads of stuff!

Look it up your self;
They've done suicide awareness
Sing it for Japan
Raise awareness for parkinsons
RSPCA
make a wish foundation.
Bullying awareness
ect.
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YAY! Go do some of your own research now!

No. You made the assertion that "they are not in it for the money". The burden of proof is on you.

Doing a few benefit concerts and public service announcements is standard operating procedure for bands. I want evidence that, as you claimed, "they are not in it for the money". That would only be demonstrated by their donating the bulk of the money they earn through their "music".

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You do realise that playing in the band is his JOB? he still needs money to go towards his family? you know, his wife and child! they're all married so i think they need money to go towards the family or if they want to start the family up.

I thought you said he wasn't in it for the money.

Why do people have jobs? FOR THE MONEY.



Nice house. Wanna guess whose it is?