[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I seek your view Landover

Deaner, my parents go to Protestant church, I love them, and I know they're going to heaven. I don't believe you have to be a Catholic to go to heaven. I believe if you have a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, repented your sins, and live a life glorifying God, you can go to heaven.

Your parents are going to spend eternity in hellfire, just the same as you are. Anyone who rejects Christ the way your family has shouldn't expect anything else.

How old are you girl? I'm going to guess 14.

[MindFreak]

Re: I seek your view Landover

Sadly, our military enforces the don't ask don't tell rule. Which allows these perverted homosexuals to serve in our ARMED forces.

The "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule does make it illegal for the government to refuse enlistment and/or kick them out... HOWEVER, it does not say the government can't keep a close eye on them and write them up for a huge number of small things that quickly add up to the point of a discharge from the military. It's a very indirect way of approaching things, but if it works, then I see nothing wrong with it.

Yours In Christ
Mary

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I seek your view Landover

The "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule does make it illegal for the government to refuse enlistment and/or kick them out... HOWEVER, it does not say the government can't keep a close eye on them and write them up for a huge number of small things that quickly add up to the point of a discharge from the military. It's a very indirect way of approaching things, but if it works, then I see nothing wrong with it.

Yours In Christ
Mary

Homers (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death." Romans 1:31-32

Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

If you offer even the mildest support of queers, you will burn in hell right along side them. Thus sayeth the Lord!!

[Roberta]

Re: I seek your view Landover

Sadly, our military enforces the don't ask don't tell rule. Which allows these perverted homosexuals to serve in our ARMED forces.

I'll bet that policy was an inspiration of the Clintons!

[Father Maurice Lester]

Re: I seek your view Landover

...I've seen catholics talking to statues and holding their hands. They're plaster you idiot. How can we take you seriously?

This shows how little you corn-husking internet scam artists know about The Holy Roman Church, normal human relationships and fine art.


1. We don't talk to statues but we do pray in front of them.

2. Holding hands is a common practice for couples.

3. Most of our better statues are not plaster but marble with a fair bit of alabaster as well. (We will leave pre and post-renaissance bronze casting for another discussion) Do you think God inspired Michelangelo to work with plaster when he sculpted the Pietà?


I think not.



Bless you, my repeat concussion victim,
Father Mo




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[Father Maurice Lester]

Re: I seek your view Landover

I'll bet that policy was an inspiration of the Clintons!

These Clintons you speak of... they are Baptists if I am not mistaken.



Bless you, My Morganna wannabe,
Father Mo




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[MindFreak]

Re: I seek your view Landover

I'll bet that policy was an inspiration of the Clintons!

Actually, I think it really did start during the Clinton administration...

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: I seek your view Landover

The "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule does make it illegal for the government to refuse enlistment and/or kick them out... HOWEVER, it does not say the government can't keep a close eye on them and write them up for a huge number of small things that quickly add up to the point of a discharge from the military. It's a very indirect way of approaching things, but if it works, then I see nothing wrong with it.

Yours In Christ
Mary

So, Mary, you find it acceptable for our military men to be forced to sin -- that is, lie -- to come up with reasons to expel God-mocking abominations from the military, instead of honestly saying the legitimate reason?

This shows how little you corn-husking internet scam artists know about The Holy Roman Church, normal human relationships and fine art.

2. Holding hands is a common practice for couples.
.

So . . . you hold hands with statues because it's a common practice for couples?

We're talking about statues, not inflatable love dolls, you depraved, perverted abomination!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I seek your view Landover

These Clintons you speak of... they are Baptists if I am not mistaken.



Bless you, My Morganna wannabe,
Father Mo




.

Yes....SOUTHERN Baptists.

[MindFreak]

Re: I seek your view Landover

So, Mary, you find it acceptable for our military men to be forced to sin -- that is, lie -- to come up with reasons to expel God-mocking abominations from the military, instead of honestly saying the legitimate reason?

I never said I found it acceptable. However, until someone rids our military of this policy, we really have no other choice except to look the other way and ignore what it's doing to our military, which I do not plan on doing.
I believe finding other reasons to expel these "people" from the military is working fine. One of my former neighbor used to be a sniper in the Marines. He was an excellent marksman and not afraid to go into battle, however, he was also rumored to be gay. Apparently, the ralking officer was afraid of what he might do to the other soldiers so they wrote him up for dozens of small things and managed to get him discharged from the military. At least that was the story flying around the neighborhood after he returned home.... He moved after that.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: I seek your view Landover

I never said I found it acceptable. However, until someone rids our military of this policy, we really have no other choice except to look the other way and ignore what it's doing to our military, which I do not plan on doing.

I believe finding other reasons to expel these "people" from the military is working fine. One of my former neighbor used to be a sniper in the Marines. He was an excellent marksman and not afraid to go into battle, however, he was also rumored to be gay. Apparently, the ralking officer was afraid of what he might do to the other soldiers so they wrote him up for dozens of small things and managed to get him discharged from the military. At least that was the story flying around the neighborhood after he returned home.... He moved after that.

Indeed a Godly response, Mary. I'm glad I had merely misunderstood your intent.

[Warrior of God]

Re: I seek your view Landover

Deaner, my parents go to Protestant church, I love them, and I know they're going to heaven. .

You see, right there you underline the whole problem with cathoholicy 'faiths' and lies...You don't know anyone is going to heaven. Just like I don't , that Father Homo, don't , and the pope certainly don't.
God knows that , son , and ONLY HE KNOWS FOR SURE... It's bad enough the pope trying to take on God's job , without you trying to snatch a job in the hereafter as self-appointed gate-keeper to God's presence.
Catholics have always had a tendency to pick and choose too much, that's why they'll burn. You see presuming on , or being selective with God's word and laws is just another way of saying Blasphemer

The Roman church was founded by Peter .

Which Peter was that. The Catholics manage to lay claim on quite a few.
One set of bones, announced by the pope to be Peter's in 1950, was discovered to contain five tibias, generally a body only has two at most, two of those came from a woman, This skeleton also contained bones from pigs, sheep, goats and chicken bones. so first off it was founded on him...it...they...
Another , also, 'definitely' Peter, was declared by the pope as kosher in 1968 , they also included various domestic animal bones, as well as those of a mouse...The skull on this one was a real embarassment , as the items claimed to be Peter's skull were proven to have resided in the basilica of St John Lateran in Rome since around the ninth century.
Somehow , they had managed to get lost, enter a cathoholic witness protection programme then reappear as Peter. Or rather another one. Or a gang of farm animals disguised as 'Peter'.
I would suggest you checked these facts with Father Homo , but he seems incredibly ignorant of cathoholic history.
He is probably one of those friday catholics , you know, eats a fish , makes a quick confession, then gets back to buggery and debauchery fast as he can..

I am inquiring to answer a personal question, 'If we're all Christians, then why are we so devided?" .

Best advice here is ask a cathoholic that one... They invented the idea of cathoholics splitting off. Check out the schism with the Eastern Orthodox faith...It was your roman bunch that decided if they couldn't have their own way they wouldn't play along anymore and split off.
The rift they created was almost sorted out a few times, but every time the roman cathoholics demanding last say always trashed your lots chances of reuniting.
It makes sense that right minded True Christians wouldn't want anything to do with such despots who were more concerned with earthly power and empires than they were with God's word, ways, and worship.

Also, the Bible was formulated by Catholic scholars, as far as the order of books, and what
was included/excluded from the Bible. .

That is a huge NO... The latin bibles were edited highlights cut and pasted by various councils so they could manipulate the book to be what they wanted it to be. They just treated the bible like a wander through a super-market. The book they came out with was more hole'y than Holy.The cathoholics also opposed the translation from latin, and the common dispersal of the bible they controlled , as they didn't want the common man to be able to access the book. they were scared their priests would not be able to control what the masses heard , and knew.
Again, earthly power over God's word..
The folks at Landover are happy for everyone to be able to access and seek to understand the Lord's words. They don't seek to limit its meaning to a few cardinals, bishops and priests. The catholics did. They even struggled for centuries so the peasants would have to hear mass in Latin only. That way, even the regular rituals were guarded as mystical secrets in the way of some exclusive satanic cult.
If a Christian raises words from the KJV and suggests they support another view. The learned scholars seek to help them understand and learn, unlike the cathoholics where they just tried to keep it all secret so they could say what they wanted about it , and the ignorant peasants had no way of knowing which way was up..
That's a big difference between any cathoholic book, its secret keepers, and the open access KJV BIBLE.

Catholocism is also a tradition for Spaniards, am I wrong for being traditional? .

Your point is self defeating...An older tradition for Spaniards is that of Celtic paganism. The Iberian Celts were a far older religious entity than the cathoholic church...So, by your own argument you should really have dumped the vatican and taken up celtic beliefs, all so you held with tradition... after all the older the tradition, the more traditional it is.

Do you support Crusade against Islam? One of my main reasons for joining the Army was to fight the physical battle in the name of Christendom. The Roman Catholic Church is famous for Crusades against the infidel. .

Look into history son. The catholic church is famous for crusades against anyone who looked like upsetting romes plans...
They had crusades against Cathars and Huguenots in France. The pope and the so called holy roman emperor called for crusades against almost any nation, prince, lord, or whatever who did not kneel to their power...
At one point your roman catholic church was having crusades against itself, check out the French popes/avignon popes, for a good while your church had at least two popes, both said they were the kosher pope, both promoted crusades against the other.
Similarly, at one time when Irleand was becoming the centre of cathoholic study and learning, the pope at the time was planning a crusade against the irish, just incase they eclipsed his power.
Equally, plenty of popes supported and sought accomodations with islamics when it suited them.
As for the main reason for the crusades , that was just the popes seeking to alter the balance of power in europe.
The crusades came along at a time when a new feature had developed in europe. That was a growing caste structure headed by the titled nobles, then closely followed by the Chivalry, the titled knights... The balance of power was swinging in a major way to favour the secular power centres of lay-lords. Pope didn't want that. Europe was crawling with growing numbers of skilled warriors who saw their loyalty as lying with other men than the pope , those numbers were growing all the time due to the eldest son getting the land and main title , whils the younger ones either entered the church , or took a lesser title and set out to find riches and lands by marriage or conquest....
popey needed to whittle down their numbers and get the rest the furthest away from europe he could...He couldn't have anyone commanding the obedience of far more warriors than he could muster on his best day.
His answer, crusades... What the wars didn't kill, garrisoning Outremer would tie huge numbers of potential competitors for power up where they were too far away to foil the popes plans. Crusades also created rivallry and hostility between the nobles the pope feared would unite against him and put their own guys in his place.
Check out the 30 years war...that was just another of the popes little slaughter fests through europe , and so called fellow christians , were the folks getting offed.

Then again, there was the Inquisition, Now I know Father 'mo already had a blabber about how the church didn't execute anyone...
Oh dear , now let's see...Yet again he seems a little ignorant of cathoholic history.
All those subject to the centuries of the Inquisition and its cathoholic evil were subject to the power of the church, and just the cathoholic church. No-one else , no religion, no secular legal body had any say in determining the outcome of an Inquisitional intervention.
Old Mo the mo, seems never to have heard of an auto de fey...That was the means by which the Inquisition applied its power of arrest, question , trial , and conviction. It worked against individuals in secret, or mass public accusations and trials.
Many died under the Question...The only restraints set on the Inquisition was that they weren't meant to shed blood, but they could, stretch on the rack, beat, burn, crush, dislocate, break, batter, starve, drown, and any other thing they wished.
Those who refused to confess were automatically guilty, damned as heretics, and burned.
Those who confessed, were damned as transgressors, offered possible entry to the cathoholic heaven for recanting, then burned.
There were two ways of getting a quicker end.
One was to confess and recant, that meant they would garrotte you on the pyre before they burned you. You could also pay for the privilege of a quicker end. Later on there was also a technique of strapping a collar with a black powder charge or bag attached, so the flames would set it off and blow a hole in the heretics neck.
Generally the only ones who escaped the Question, were from wealthy families who coincidentally decided to make huge donations to the cathoholic church.

ONLY the catholic church could sentence a so called heretic to death.
It was the sentence that determined the outcome.
And the sentence was pretty much decided before the arrest was made...

Thanks for a swift response. Mr. Rodimer, .

Odd isn't it, what with how your parents are so god-fearing, and upright, and such...and you are so aware of tradition...no-one seemed to teach you basic manners. That gentleman's name is cllearly written in big old letters as REV... yet you blatantly deny him his title in an ill mannered act of disrespect and obvious dismissive snideness.
Do you call your fake cathoholic fathers , Mister...bet you don't do you...

It looks to me like you all are, as well, elitist. .

That's rich coming from a cathoholic... You ever looked at the hierarchy or the popes gang...Have you ever studied on just how many countries are made up of catholic peasants trod down by cathoholic overlords for centuries. You ever noticed how the elitist catholics pick and choose whats holy, even promoting and demoting elitist hierarchies of saints AS AND WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT...
Course you haven't, or you wouldnt have said that, and you wouldn't still be a cathohoic if any of what you said really mattered to you....

[Warrior of God]

Re: I seek your view Landover

This shows how little you corn-husking internet scam artists know about The Holy Roman Church, normal human relationships and fine art.

No as usual, your posts show how little you actually know about the origins , history and practises of your own socalled cathoholic church.
For a supposed man of that church , you always seem incredibly ignorant. Also I have never seen you use fact and history, only cathoholic superstition and heresay.
Oh yes, you also lean on the deliberate falsehoods the cathoholic church has sactterd around like confetti...
almost as if you hide behind the turin shroud isn't it father 'mo.
I sometimes wonder if you're even a kosher priest...
kosher maybe...
priest, ??????

1. We don't talk to statues but we do pray in front of them.

You ever peeped into a catholic church or household... carthoholics spend most of their kneeling time prattling away to this saint and that saint , seeking this favour and that... Your whole system of patron saints and saints days is set up on the basis of honouring them with prayer so they will intercede for your heathen kind...
you just spout lies upon lies...

2. Holding hands is a common practice for couples.

Indeed it is...But we regard handholding with fake people as just another perversion... If you can't see the difference between holding hands with a help meet, on occasion, and holding hands with a facsimile , a puppet, or a false copy...well, maybe that explains why the sales of those depraved sexual dolls are so high in catholic countries. Maybe they think they are the idols made for worshipping the patron saints of fornication.
Interesting isnt it that one of the oldest and most filth laden pornographic industries has a home in Italy...cathoholic ground zero...

3. Most of our better statues are not plaster but marble with a fair bit of alabaster as well. (We will leave pre and post-renaissance bronze casting for another discussion) Do you think God inspired Michelangelo to work with plaster when he sculpted the Pietà?

That is bull...take a walk round Europe, mexico, south america, ...Throughout your evil empire most of the statues and idols are cast in plaster , and even papeier mache...Only the best ones, stolen and stored by your thieving church are made of decent stuff. for every one made from good nmaterial there are a hundred thousand little plaster false idols scattered arund churches and homes...
Take a look in cathoholic cars and taxis....half the windows of catholic driver are blocked by little plaster and plastic idols and saints...
They're so cluttered they can't see out of the things, that , and God's judgement is why so many cathoholics drive like blind men...
Michelangelo worked under threat of imprisonment or death, he openly despised the pope...even seeking to remain hidden from him and his spies..

You're a disappontment...
Take some time off from tormenting the choirboys Mo'...
If you're to cling to any kind of credibility you need to open a history book or two.
(avoid the ones compiled the way your bible was....)

[Brother Temperance]

Re: I seek your view Landover

No as usual, your posts show how little you actually know about the origins , history and practises of your own socalled cathoholic church.
For a supposed man of that church , you always seem incredibly ignorant. Also I have never seen you use fact and history, only cathoholic superstition and heresay.
Oh yes, you also lean on the deliberate falsehoods the cathoholic church has sactterd around like confetti...
almost as if you hide behind the turin shroud isn't it father 'mo.
I sometimes wonder if you're even a kosher priest...
kosher maybe...
priest, ??????

The combination of incredible ignorance and deliberate falsehoods certainly makes him sound like a genuine priest to me.

[Warrior of God]

Re: I seek your view Landover

The combination of incredible ignorance and deliberate falsehoods certainly makes him sound like a genuine priest to me.

Now that is a serious point...

You're probably right .

Put so simply those two factors certainly sound like perfect qualifications for his shameful ilk.