Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

[Billy-Joe Beaver]

"Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven" (Matt. 23:9).

yet have ye not many FATHERS: for in Christ Jesus I have BEGOTTEN you through the gospel" (1 Cor 4:15)

[Filet-o-fish]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

Quite undoubtedly, if you were to take the incentive to reference earlier versions of the Bible in the original languages of publication (namely Septuagint), you would quite likely find that the two uses of the word 'father' would convey a different connotation and meaning altogether. English is a very limited language in many aspects and much is lost when verses are translated into it, for not all subtleties are going to be recognised.

Unfortunately, I do believe that you have failed altogether at debate and reasoning.

[JennyD]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

My fishy friend, sometimes it's not worth the effort.

Send the window-licker on his way; the short bus will be along soon to pick him up.

[Billy-Joe Beaver]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

And people's use of father towards priests isn't different?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

2 Peter 1:20: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

We follow the Holy Bible, word-for-word. We don't pay attention to unsaved spin-meisters who come into God's favorite forum to sew seeds of doubt.

[Billy-Joe Beaver]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

For Filet o Stupid-

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/sermons/dangcatholics.html

"That's why we here at Landover Baptist are careful to use the word Daddy or Pappy when referring to even our kinfolk, dare we risk invoking God's wrath by a mere slip of the tongue."

[Billy-Joe Beaver]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

Pastor Fred never said "only use father in the right context" he said "never use father" due to Matt. 23:9.

[Filet-o-fish]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

Pastor Fred never said "only use father in the right context" he said "never use father" due to Matt. 23:9.

Simply a cautionary word on his part. If, however, one would look at the passage in some context:

Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

then one would quickly see that it is concerning humility of the self and fair treatment of others and of oneself. That is, to call none father, nor Rabbi, nor master for none can profess to judge or rule over you and he that does is a blasphemer. Many passages in the Bible are indeed not meant to be taken quite literally, but instead serve as a moral fibre to reinforce other lessons and commandments therein.

Would you like to continue, or do you concede that you are acting as nothing more than a pseudo-muckraker?

[Billy-Joe Beaver]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

"Simply a cautionary word on his part. If, however, one would look at the passage in some context"

No he said calling a man father is forbidden, period.

Its funny how you Baptards use unsaved trash to do your work for you.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

And people's use of father towards priests isn't different?

Dear Dimwit:

We are not Catholics. We do not have priests.

If you would bother to read any part of this Christian Church forum, you'd know that.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

I'm confused. Who are the Durrrr and why were they supposed to interpret the Bible like children? Your initial post doesn't explain any of this at all.

[Filet-o-fish]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

"Simply a cautionary word on his part. If, however, one would look at the passage in some context"

No he said calling a man father is forbidden, period.

Its funny how you Baptards use unsaved trash to do your work for you.

Don't play with fire, period. Don't get caught with a dead hooker, period.

Hmm-ah, now, am I missing something, or are those just over-cautious advisories (much like the one that Pastor Fred issued)?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Durrrr were supposed to interpret the bible like children.

"Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven" (Matt. 23:9).

yet have ye not many FATHERS: for in Christ Jesus I have BEGOTTEN you through the gospel" (1 Cor 4:15)

Listen up Beaver boy (did you get that name because of an unfortunate dental disability?)

Christ speaks to the multitude:

M't:23:5: But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
M't:23:6: And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
M't:23:7: And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
M't:23:8: But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
M't:23:9: And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Here we have Christ decrying the ways of the Pharisees and Scribes who demand the respect of title but are not worthy of that respect and hence not the title. In verse 9, Jesus states that you are a free man and subservient to no one except God the Father (incorporating Jesus & The Holy Spirit.)

The First Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Corinthians

1Co:4:11: Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;

1Co:4:12: And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
1Co:4:13: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
1Co:4:14: I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
1Co:4:15: For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
1Co:4:16: Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

Here Paul is introducing Timothy to the Corinthians. You will note that he calls no one father. He merely remarks that although many would instruct the Corinthians, they are short of a father figure and they have inherited him (Paul) through the Gospel. Paul asks that they follow his example. You will see that he is careful not to claim the title of ‘father.’

If you look at the latter verse in one of the so called bibles other than the KJV1611, you will be deceived.

I have some difficulty – what is your point in challenging God’s Inerrant Word as given out by Pastor Deacon Fred? I ask you to heed Ac:9:5: And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.