[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

And the point of that is?

Surly its a sign of you being wrong if your trying to ban me rather then check the statement i made? If so i feel you are showing a great sign of weakness in you and your faith you so claim to practice.

If jesus was here i dont think hed ban me on a forum...would he? No he would be calm and civil...then again he didnt write the bible, if your bible was written in the 1600's then Jeus COULDNT have written it, man must have, and you must know that no man is perfect, and every man has flaws.

One who cant admit flaws is surly ignorent and misguided

[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Look friend, I gave you the skinny on why Christianity is the one correct religion.

Gods Favorite Forum™ is not a debate forum, it is a place for LIKE MINDED (not retarded sociopaths to wax a boat load of mental gibberish about the false Muslim god) people to discuss God according to the KJV1611 Bible.

However "friend" and i use the term lightly due do your very hateful tone towards me, if you knew anything about Islam like you said youd know that muslims believe in the same god the christians and jewish people do. How can you call what i believe gibberish but cant defend contradictions in your own holy book?

Your bible didnt exist in the time of jesus...so does that mean everything he taught was wrong? or the generation after that? IF your bible was right it would have been the original version and would have stuck, and not "appeared" in the 1600's

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

well ...its a pretty dire contradiction..to say in one place God caused something then in another satan caused the same thing?

Another contradiction i have found: How can you support something that isnt certain of what facts are true?

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)

(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

So, David did it right for God and tricked the Devil - OK?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)

(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)"

You are nothing but a trouble-maker – you have no interest in The Lord of Hosts, you are walking the broad path to Damnation.

Read what you told us to read!

2Sa:24:1: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
2Sa:24:2: For the king said to Joab the captain of the host, which was with him, Go now through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan even to Beer-sheba, and number ye the people, that I may know the number of the people.

1Ch:21:1: And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
1Ch:21:2: And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the people, Go, number Israel from Beer-sheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it.

Has it never happened to you that two people have told you to do the same thing? Have you led such a sheltered life that you have never had your father tell you to put away your clothes and your mother tell you to do the same thing?

OK? Now, if you are so damn clever, find anything that is a contradiction in the Bible (KJV1611) – Son, you will be wasting your time like you are wasting mine now.

[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

And the point of that is?

well ...its a pretty dire contradiction..to say in one place God caused something then in another satan caused the same thing?

Another contradiction i have found: How can you support something that isnt certain of what facts are true?

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)

(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

[James Hutchins]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Notice the total lack of rebutal to my last comment. Truth stings

[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

"very long post didnt want to quote all"

thank you, i read all of what you said, most of it conforms to the traditional christian ways i understand.

2 things if you could explain to me would be nice.

1. something no christian has explained to me properly. the idea of the trinity, why would God who by definition is all mighty and powerful need to send "himself" down as a human who is actually a different person but in essence is actually part of God? Why would God not send messengers like he has done throughout history? Or why didnt God send "himself down" every single time instead of getting messengers and prophets.

2. What is this of all americans being important etc. I mean, who wrote that in your version of the bible. From an objective standpoint that sounds like a view equal to nazis or the nation of islam (which all muslims agree on being utter trash)

[Bob4God]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)

(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)"

And the point of that is?

[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Welcome to God's favorite forum where proper spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure are always appreciated.

Son, your language skills are so poor that I can barely understand what you write.

That being said, you're telling me you had an actual debate with Richard Dawkins? You? A person that is barely literate? Now you have to understand that is pretty hard to believe. Are you in the bridge sales business?

So lets assume for a moment that you did have this debate. It sounds to me like you declared yourself the winner and left.

Son, how about reading over the Pastors Rules and Announcements. Pay close attention to the "noobs" thread. I'm sure it will be enlightening.

Son, it wasn't Christians who took down the WTC. It was Muslims. You don't see Christians blowing themselves up so that they kill their own people. It is Muslims. You guys need to stop with the explosives.

Well, I need to prepare for my debate with the President tomorrow!

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

You mock me for a few typing errors? Sorry I'm not flawless like you. He visited my school in 2007 to deliver a lecture. And you understand my vocal skills and my typed skills have no relationship with each other, when one is rushing to type a reply, one is bound to make mistakes.

So by the actions of a few people you think the rest of us...over 2 billion are all bomb wearing terrorists...if that is the case, i sincerely fear for what the world has become, how ignorant some people are. Manchester england 1996 there was a terrorist attack carried out by christian extremists in the IRA.....no Christians blowing themselves up i hear?

If Muslims are so peaceful and wonderful, why do you come crashing into OUR forums like a Boeing to take bash our beliefs? Why not leave us alone?

I don't care what you have to say, you are wrong. We are right, because we follow the Bible and the Bible is perfect. If you don't believe that the Bible is perfect, just read it!

I am not bashing anything..i came here to learn, and simply replying to how you people come across, posts like that dont help your case, of course i expect you to believe your religion is right...but please dont be so narrow minded to think its perfect in every single aspect

a quick flaw i have to reference, like i said i have read parts of the bible..it is by no means perfect..unless there is some deeper meaning to what i just posted.

Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)

(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)"

[James Hutchins]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Look friend, I gave you the skinny on why Christianity is the one correct religion.

Gods Favorite Forum™ is not a debate forum, it is a place for LIKE MINDED (not retarded sociopaths to wax a boat load of mental gibberish about the false Muslim god) people to discuss God according to the KJV1611 Bible.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

[...]So if someone could explain your faiths views...why you hold them, some proof attaining to them etc, itd be appreciated.[...]

If I may summarize:
Prequel God and Lucifer fall out, God makes Satan in charge of Hell

PART I
God (with Jesus and The Holy Spirit) creates the earth in 7 days and places Man (Adam) in Eden (look on it as a sort of agreeable Everglades)
God has soft spot for Adam and creates Eve.
Eve is a dumb blonde and is approached by Satan disguised as a snake and eats the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. She also persuades Adam to have a nibble.
Adam and Eve are caught out by God and are cursed to become mortal – Eve’s going to have a few problems with childbirth. The snake has to wander the earth on its belly, but at the same time has to be in charge of Hell.
Fast forwards a few hundred generations and mankind has lost the plot. Noah is told to build a very big boat and put all the animals in it (limited admission). It throws it down for quite a while, everyone is drowned.
During voyage Noah is seen to be naked, this causes jigaboos and all the other races on earth.
The races get further mixed up when God decides that language is important and confuses the world with various varieties. (Look upon it as the difference in speech between, say a New Yorker and a Texan, only more so)
The Israelites (symbolically the chosen people) are taken into slavery and Moses (big chap wilth a beard) causes plagues and then parts the Red Sea leads the Israelites out of bondage but “buys the Big One” before he reaches Israel (confusingly called Judah and other names)
Several wars take place, God always wins, millions are slaughtered but the Israelites come out on top as basically they God’s Chosen People.
Nebuchadnezzar gets the writing on the wall and is destroyed
Shadrach Meshach and Abednego survive a furnace
Daniel survives the Lions’ Den and
Jonah is swallowed by a whale and survives, all because of God.
Various things are prophesized and come to pass, or will come to pass.
Solomon has loads of wives and is brilliant in the Family Social Work side but eventually let’s himself down by being too liberal.
David slays Goliath, is a big friend of Jonathan and becomes the best King ever
Other stuff happens and

PART II
near Christmas, Jesus is born.
Jesus is part of the Trinity – He is God but the Son of God and encompasses the Holy Spirit. (This is the bit that requires Faith, as well as a later bit, see below – There is one God and He is Jesus, God The Father and The Holy Spirit.)
The local head honcho, Herod, is a bit disturbed and has all the male kids slain – He misses Jesus.
Jesus grows up and starts to preach. He feeds 5000 with fish sandwiches, cures lepers, madmen, blind, deaf, etc. but by way of an example rather than in the way of a hospital, and he does it for free.
Jesus gets baptized by John the Baptist who later loses his head to Salome.
Jesus says that he has come with a sword to divide everyone and that if you don’t believe in Him you’re hell-bound.
Jesus gathers around him 12 men who either record or have His and their thoughts recorded
Jesus upsets the big joo cheeses and they set Him up as a patsy.
Jesus has The Last Supper with his co-workers and asks them to occasionally think of Him when eating and drinking. He also tells Thomas (one of his friends) that he is a doubter and knows that Judas will squeal to the Romans and that Peter (a bit of a devil) will carry the church forward.
Jesus was expecting to be crucified and says, “I will return” (McArthur and Schwarzenegger said similar)
The Roman Head honcho washes his hands and agrees that if the joos say it’s right, it must be and has Him crucified.
This frees mankind form all sin as long as they believe in Him.
3 days later (around Easter) He’s back from the dead.
Everyone’s amazed (except the joos who are somewhat cheesed off.)
Jesus goes to Heaven.
The Apostles (his friends) go around teaching and preaching.

Part III
The pope gets in on the act, decides there’s good business to be had and starts a religion called The Catholics - In fact, these people are the minions of Satan.
About 1300 years later King Henry VIII of England, who’s runs through several wives gets turned down for a divorce from one of them. He gets cheesed off and tells the pope to stuff it where the sun doesn’t shine and starts being a Protestant.
King James gets to be King of England and God thinks this is a good time to correct the silly papist ideas and has James write the Bible KJV1611.
James isn’t as free with his interpretation of the Bible as some might like and a load of people take the boat to America (look on it as a cruise)
These guys bring their wives and children and KJV1611 and found a British Colony.
No-one likes British Taxes and so they dress up an injuns (to lay off the blame) and split with Britain after tipping tea into Boston Harbor (The British think of tea as being next to God, so it’s a big insult)
Everyone of importance is now American, however the North and South fall out.
The south was Godly and right but are defeated.

Americans now set about inventing everything that is worth having and defeating all their enemies, who are also the Enemies of God.

The rest is history.

The basis of it all is that you believe all of that without question or burn for eternity.

OK, you’re up to speed, get on with worshiping Jesus.

[Bob4God]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

If Muslims are so peaceful and wonderful, why do you come crashing into OUR forums like a Boeing to bash our beliefs? Why not leave us alone?

I don't care what you have to say, you are wrong. We are right, because we follow the Bible and the Bible is perfect. If you don't believe that the Bible is perfect, just read it!

[Talitha]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

im not stressed, im raged. You people have no respect for those who dont belive in the same things that you belive in.

Oh dear me.
never mind.

God Bless.

[Brother Lazarus]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Didnt covert him..someone whos so set in his ways could never change their thought of mind even if the truth was dangled right infront of him. No i simply defeated his arguments with general religious principles such as the design argument, and other examples from the abrahamic faiths (jewish, christian and muslim faiths)

Welcome to God's favorite forum where proper spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure are always appreciated.

Son, your language skills are so poor that I can barely understand what you write.

That being said, you're telling me you had an actual debate with Richard Dawkins? You? A person that is barely literate? Now you have to understand that is pretty hard to believe. Are you in the bridge sales business?

So lets assume for a moment that you did have this debate. It sounds to me like you declared yourself the winner and left.

Son, how about reading over the Pastors Rules and Announcements. Pay close attention to the "noobs" thread. I'm sure it will be enlightening.

Son, it wasn't Christians who took down the WTC. It was Muslims. You don't see Christians blowing themselves up so that they kill their own people. It is Muslims. You guys need to stop with the explosives.

Well, I need to prepare for my debate with the President tomorrow!

Yours in Christ
Brother Lazarus

[treenager]

Re: Someone explain your religion please

Here is description of our religion. It's a little long, but once you finish it, you will know where we stand.

now, how different are different versions of the bible, if you get what i mean. How can a religion claim to be true if the different groups within it cant agree on whats true and whats false and where the different groups practice so differently?

I have read parts of the bible, granted not all of it, and i dont claim to be a biblical scholar, but one thing i did find was that it does contradict it self a number of times, historically it is proven that it is a man written book that has been edited several times by people like popes during the middle ages (some of who were known to be corrupt) to suit their own needs.

@James Hutchins..you seem to forget oklahoma..
you seem to be defending your country more then your religion, whilst being very hateful to mine. You are christian yes..following Jesus's example, then how would you think Jesus would react to how your speaking to a fellow human being, he treated no man with disrespect and didnt discriminate on religion, you forget that Jesus was kind to all and himself was jewish. America didnt exist when Jesus was around..so since you live there and you think that makes you better then me..Jesus lived in the middle east does that make you better then him?