[FISHBRAIN#2]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

I dont hate jesus, but he also hasnt done anything for me. I would say some negative things with my life, but some of you would be evil about it. I don't hate him though. And you view me to be, but i have my view, and you must accept my view relevant to me, so when i say im agnostic, dont hate god/jesus etc etc, i mean it.

I also wrote i post that i stupidly deleting thinking it did post when it didnt which was in reply to handmaiden saying i respect him more than the others here that have but forth their beliefs making their religion seem like an ugly thing when it shouldnt.

You CANNOT write.

Your grammer is regretable

Grammar* regrettable*
Don't criticise me when you're not perfect yourself. I have written more fully then i usually do in which i usually type shorter and with more typos since keyboards are prone to that. I think i had another point, but cant remember. Also my friend is not going to hell, he didnt actually say you as such and was more general. But he follows the bible, he thinks me and a gay online friend we both know are going to hell. I say he's wrong for his beliefs but i wont criticise him for that as hes entitled to his beliefs, as you are with yours.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

@Jeb At no point did i say that saying someone is going to hell will end up in hell themselves.

At no point did I claim you did. Quote me on it if I did.

You still should have no right to call this.

Yet I do: the First Amendment gives me the right to free speech (Which you said is the same as terrorism.). The First Amendment protects both what I say, and what I didn't say (ie the stuff you're talking about now).

But what i was saying was actually that significantly affecting someones life negatively would mean you potentially could go to hell.

You never said that until now. Forget "agnostic", "Alzheimer's" might be the better term.

Also, are stating that you believe in hell? The same belief which you equated with terrorism? Agnosticism is saying "hell might exist" while "you might go to hell" is a religious statement, not an agnostic one.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

I dont hate jesus

Yes you do.

but he also hasnt done anything for me.

He died a horrible death for you!!! He did that to give you eternal life! Colossians 1:20 "And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven."


Why are you so extremely ungrateful to Jesus? Do you prefer Hell?

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

I have written more fully then i usually do

And we're being more polite than we usually are. What's your point?

i usually type shorter and with more typos since keyboards are prone to that.

You still use a keyboard? You should do what we do: we plug a wire into our brains that automatically turns our thoughts into flawless, typo-free writing.

I think i had another point, but cant remember.

I've already noticed your memory issues. Did you know that demonbuster.org specifically mentions that Alzheimer's disease can be cast out?

[FISHBRAIN#2]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

At no point did I claim you did. Quote me on it if I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRISHY#2
Anyway if any of you make anyones lives hell be it for them being black or gay, your not that far off from being as bad as terrorists.

See how agnostics weazel their way out of their own statements? You claim that you said "making someone's life hell", but you actually said "saying somebody will go to hell" is the same as terrorism.

[/quote]
thats how i read it

You never said that until now. Forget "agnostic", "Alzheimer's" might be the better term.

i was expanding and wat i was sating to clarify that what you said i was saying was incorrect.

Also, are stating that you believe in hell? The same belief which you equated with terrorism? Agnosticism is saying "hell might exist" while "you might go to hell" is a religious statement, not an agnostic one.

if there is one i was saying. I thougght you would have gathered that.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

if there is one i was saying.

So, if there's a hell, you were saying people can do to hell. But if there isn't a hell, you weren't?

Wow. Agnosticism in a nutshell.

[FISHBRAIN#2]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

If you say so.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

So Frishy, do you have any scripture to back up your claim that we're not True Christians(TM)? You've created a god in your own mind, in your image and decided that you don't like him. Although I'm sure this would be an interesting study for a psychiatrist, I am not sure what the real God would have to say about that.

Maybe before you go around criticizing things you should actually learn about them. I'm going to add a couple of my wifes favorite quips to save her the effort.

You are not entitled to your opinion, you are entitled to your informed opinion. If you are not informed on the subject, then your opinion counts for nothing.
~Harlan Ellison

[Phoenix]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

First of all, try to take me seriously and open ur minds, im not here to critisize u, but to help u even if u think differently. Dont let yourselves be blinded by ur faith. Theres nothing wrong with ur faith in god. However from the few things ive read on here, u guys are extreme in ur beliefs. Please take the time to read this, it is for your own good after all.

Mr Fishy,

I have read all of your post, like you asked people to do.

I am glad you think people have the right to believe in God, and have a right to follow his word, and that you think there is nothing wrong with this belief.

May I ask, where are the parts that would help me think differently, and for what reasons? Or have you not written that part yet perhaps? I am eager to learn what you have to say for my own good.

I am also interested in what you could tell me about other beliefs too, that I do not already know. You said yourself, nobody has a base for an argument unless they have such knowledge. This is a good principle. Would you perhaps share your knowledge with us all?

Thank you.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

can someone post or pm me the reason for this place.

Joining other True Christians(tm) in faith and fellowship, and rebuking with tough love those who are not yet True Christians(tm).

Do you solely rely on outsiders to fuel your arguments against them.

Huh?

Are you guys religious

Yes.

[handmaiden]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

I dont hate jesus, but he also hasnt done anything for me. I would say some negative things with my life, but some of you would be evil about it. I don't hate him though. And you view me to be, but i have my view, and you must accept my view relevant to me, so when i say im agnostic, dont hate god/jesus etc etc, i mean it.

I also wrote i post that i stupidly deleting thinking it did post when it didnt which was in reply to handmaiden saying i respect him more than the others here that have but forth their beliefs making their religion seem like an ugly thing when it shouldnt.

Grammar* regrettable*
Don't criticise me when you're not perfect yourself. I have written more fully then i usually do in which i usually type shorter and with more typos since keyboards are prone to that. I think i had another point, but cant remember. Also my friend is not going to hell, he didnt actually say you as such and was more general. But he follows the bible, he thinks me and a gay online friend we both know are going to hell. I say he's wrong for his beliefs but i wont criticise him for that as hes entitled to his beliefs, as you are with yours.

I thank you dear, for correcting my mispelling of the word" grammar". "Regretable" remains correct according to my dictionary. I really should have taken the time to look up "grammar". I'm not too sensitive, (I think that we all are to some degree ) about criticism of my writing. I had some amazing teachers at one of the finest schools in the country and they did a lot to sharpen my abilities.

Please understand, I wasn't criticising you, but rather your writing. And my writing, while not perfect, is clearly better than yours. " [H]e thinks me and a gay online friend " is not a typo, it's poor grammar, plain and simple.

And then there's " I also wrote i post that i stupidly deleting thinking it did post when it didnt which was in reply to handmaiden saying i respect him more than the others here that have but forth their beliefs making their religion seem like an ugly thing when it shouldnt."

Let me see if I can decipher this: I also wrote a post that I stupidly deleted thinking that it did post when it didn't. It was in reply to handmaiden saying that I respect him more than the others here who have put forth their beliefs making their religion seem like an ugly thing when [ your choice here ] it is not, or they shouldn't.

There are about 12 major errors here. I am not going to include your choice of pronoun to describe me and I certainly do not take it as an insult; but the term "maiden" is obviously feminine. I think that you can agree that my rewrite reads more clearly.

I don't think that you are stupid for having problems with the technical aspects of posting or with keyboard typos. That happens to everyone, and not everyone has the time or patience to pick through their writing on what one of my professors called a "which hunt" ; referring to the incorrect use of the word "which". (Which you did*,by the way.) I ended the sentence before that word and input "It" for the sake of clarity.

As we both can agree, I am not perfect. I often encounter many grammatical errors here (and make them ) and in other venues. I also know that not everybody is as picky as I am. My point is, first, that my work is essentially readable, ( despite a tendency to be pompous ) and that, based on the sample that I edited, you are not grounded in basic writing skills. This is hampering your efforts to communciate your ideas. You are also bringing a great deal of emotion into your writing which can cloud the reasoning and writing processes.

So, why don't you consider printing out this or perhaps some other posts and showing them to an English teacher. I'm sure that there will be mistakes in mine. I still content that your diction is daunting, in the least.

Oh, and if you think my writing can be dense and pompous, try the King James Verison of the Bible. I love the part where the Lord directs David to utterly slay everyone that " pissith against the wall." Do you know how hard it is to say "pissith"?! The modern equivalent is "male' since they're obviously the ones equipped for that action. And when God commanded David to slay all the males, he meant every last one, even little baby boys. It was God's command, and David did as he was told. If that seems ugly ( referring to your earlier comment above ) then you need to consider what it means to be a Bible Believer.

Sincerely,

Handmaiden

* bad pun alert!

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

Frisha, I'm not going to spend any more time answering your questions until you repent your sins and turn your life over to Christ.

[repented harlot70]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

[Chantal]

Re: God "would" "believe" my "view" is agnostics are HELLBOUND

I don't believe that the people replying to this post have a true understanding of what agnostic is. Or like Christianity it can be categorized into one thing. Perhaps before you criticize someone or something you should have a better understanding. I am agnostic and came to this forum looking to try to understand what this religion believes in. I came with an open mind and was most likely not going to post anything but simply read and learn. I feel like I had to reply on the thread because I thought the tone of writing and some of the words on both sides of the argument to be there only to hurt someone else. I have seen this on multiple threads from all sides of the spectrum. I believe in a kind and loving God and think it saddens him to hear his children speak to each other in such a manner. Both sides need to treat each other with more respect and kindness.