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  • Jack Sparrow
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Jun 2010
    • 62

    #1

    two very easy questions

    ok, I have 2 very simple, easy to answer questions for you folks:

    1) can you give me scientific proof that god exsists

    when you can, we come to my second question:

    2) can you give me any proof that your version of the bible is the right one



    with kind regards...
  • ThatDamnFinn
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    • Jun 2010
    • 35

    #2
    Re: two very easy questions

    just give my opinnion:

    The first is obviuosly a trick question. Even if science was able to prove that god exists, the religius orders would never recognise this god as "their" god, since it was found with ungodly science.

    The secondm I'll give you a hint. The name of the game is "take your pick".
    If you have want to see people who frequantly use balck cloathing, you will find atleast one in your nearest church. Its the guy nearest to the altar.
    Perkele = satan (Christians)/the grand-daddy of satan (Dudeson Jarppi)/old Finnish overgod and god of lightning.

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    • SUV
      True Christian™ Princess
      The Driving Force behind RA12
      Have at it, anytime!
      • Sep 2006
      • 11027

      #3
      Re: two very easy questions

      Oh.My.GOD....it's....Captain Jack Sparrow! I am so not worthy

      And two queeries for you, Cap: Got any Buried Treasure? Got JESUS?

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      • WinnerNotSinner
        Friendliest Fellow in all of Freehold
        True Christian™
        • Jun 2010
        • 951

        #4
        Re: two very easy questions

        Oh, you want "scientific" proof do you?
        Sorry I don't have any needles or monkeys to operate on.

        What I can say is that the KJV (which is far worthier than some story book about evilution) clearly states that God exists.

        Genesis 1
        In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

        And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.


        The mere fact we are having this "conversation" is testimony to his existence.

        Genesis 1
        And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


        Go back to whatever hellhole you crawled out of.
        6
        A woman came up to me the other day, 12/6/2016 and said:
        "But Mr. Winner, if GOD loves everyone then why is there so much suffering in the world?"

        Because GOD doesn't love everyone. Too many people have this absurd idea in their heads that GOD is all loving.
        If he was all loving, then murderers, thieves and homosexuals would be waiting for you in Heaven.

        GOD doesn't open his gate to just anyone. Being a True Christian™ is like a Queue Jump ticket at Disney, we are guaranteed a ride with JESUS.

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        • Jack Sparrow
          Confirmed Enemy of God
          BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
          • Jun 2010
          • 62

          #5
          Re: two very easy questions

          yes, that's your book that says, but got any real proof?

          now your asking me to believe, just as I maybe should believe a book by the brothers Grimm?

          I sincerely hope you can do better

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          • WinnerNotSinner
            Friendliest Fellow in all of Freehold
            True Christian™
            • Jun 2010
            • 951

            #6
            Re: two very easy questions

            Originally posted by Jack Sparrow View Post
            yes, that's your book that says, but got any real proof?

            now your asking me to believe, just as I maybe should believe a book by the brothers Grimm?

            I sincerely hope you can do better
            You will experience some first hand proof when you are burning in hell, friend.

            Why do you hate Jesus again?
            6
            A woman came up to me the other day, 12/6/2016 and said:
            "But Mr. Winner, if GOD loves everyone then why is there so much suffering in the world?"

            Because GOD doesn't love everyone. Too many people have this absurd idea in their heads that GOD is all loving.
            If he was all loving, then murderers, thieves and homosexuals would be waiting for you in Heaven.

            GOD doesn't open his gate to just anyone. Being a True Christian™ is like a Queue Jump ticket at Disney, we are guaranteed a ride with JESUS.

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            • Jack Sparrow
              Confirmed Enemy of God
              BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
              • Jun 2010
              • 62

              #7
              Re: two very easy questions

              as I said before, how could I possibly hate something that only exsists in fairytales, and not in real life?
              (as long as no-one can provide me with some scientific proof, that's what it is to me)

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              • True Disciple
                True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                Landover Baptist University Associate Professor
                Smashing atheist science one fact at a time
                True Christian™
                • Nov 2009
                • 2445

                #8
                Re: two very easy questions

                Originally posted by Jack Sparrow View Post
                ok, I have 2 very simple, easy to answer questions for you folks:

                1) can you give me scientific proof that god exsists
                Can you give me Biblical proof that evolution exists?

                If not, why should you be right and I be wrong? Why should I be obliged to prove my religion using your religious doctrines, but shouldn't you be obliged to prove your religion (science) using my religious doctrines?


                btw, why does your signature call for the liberation of a homicidal psychopath?
                Sweet Lord Jesus,
                I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                Amen.

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                • Jack Sparrow
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 62

                  #9
                  Re: two very easy questions

                  Originally posted by True Disciple View Post
                  btw, why does your signature call for the liberation of a homicidal psychopath?
                  because he is being setup by the american federal bureau of investigation...
                  1. if he was so smart and anxious to hide Natalee Holloways body and never tell anyone about it just to stay out of prison, then WHY would he be so dumb to murder a girl in his own hotelroom, with his own bat and leave the bat in the room, all on the day that it was exactly 5 yrs ago that Natalee disappeared....? Do you find that this last murder matches the behaviour he showed for so many years or that it resembles the disappearance without a trace of Natalee...?

                  2. Two witnesses saw Joran enter his hotelroom with the girl....One hotelguest and one employee. Mind you: the hotelowner is a friend of the family of the murdered girl....The video on which he was seen with her was of the casino....the night BEFORE....

                  2. How likely is it that he would be traveling with a baseball bat? Would you go on holiday and bring along your baseball bat? Again, why would he leave the murder weapon behind? Surely he could have cleaned it up, put it in his bag and dumped it somewhere...

                  4. He arrived on May 15 in Peru. They found pills that looked like rapedrugs in the car of the murdered girl...parked 50 (!) blocks away....How did te car get there? Did she park the car there? Was that near the casino? So they got to his hotel by taxi? They met Saturday night at the casino and then they went to his hotelroom from where he left at Sunday 5am. Suppose they got to the hotel by taxi, then how did those pills get in her car...? So he was on Peru less than 15 days and he managed to get rape drugs? And leave them behind in her car? Parked 50 blocks away from the hotel?
                  Again: don't you think this doesn't fit the profile of someone who did his stinking best to hide all traces that could incriminate him in the Natalee Holloway's case?

                  5. Isn't it a little bit odd, that Natalee's mom suddenly presses charges of extortion and wire fraud NOW? Why not earlier? It didn't happen yesterday or last week and the story wasn't brought out, so why NOW? For someone who traveled many times to Holland and frequently appeared on tv whenever and as soon as there was new "evidence", wouldn't it be more likely to go public as soon as Joran would try to extort money? Wire fraud? She traced his bankaccount and wired a small sum so she can say now: you see, he tried to extort me and the evidence is the fact that I already sent him some money....And oh yeah, look at this e-mail I have received from him (as if e-mails can't be faked....).

                  6. Quite interesting were the findings of investigators Dan Young and Kelly Castillo, who found out that Natalee had been abused by her stepfather and was pregnant of him and that her mom knew about it....Just google their names and George Spink blogspot

                  7. Immediately after the news got out that the Peruvian girl was found murdered in Joran's hotelroom, an anonymous "pokerfriend" of Joran told the press that Joran had made a phonecall to him and had told him that he had stabbed the girl to death. With a knife.
                  As we all know, the girl was murdered with a baseball bat.....So who is this anonymous "pokerfriend" who so eagerly wanted to nail Joran...?


                  8. FBI-agent Harold Copus who earlier investigated the disappearance of Natalee, is quite surprised by what happened....He said: "The behaviour of Van der Sloot in Peru fits his pattern of gambling and contacting girls, but his character has never been violent".

                  9. Police commissioner Guardia said that they probably drank alcohol, but in her blood there was no trace of alcohol..."probably it was already out of her system because the body was found a few days later".
                  Strange....Please google alcohol-metabolism-after-death for the level of alcohol in a human body after death....
                  And how about traces of the rape drug...? Remember those pills in her car...?


                  10. Joran's so called confession in 2008 when he was talking to a Dutch criminal (Patrick van Eem) who had setup a trap with a hidden camera in his car (in cooperation with criminal reporter Peter R. de Vries) could have been nothing more than some fantasy talk by a young guy trying to boast in order to earn respect from a criminal who is bragging and boasting that he is a big drug dealer and who is pushing Joran to make some confession. Finally after many days of driving along with this criminal, Joran (after smoking some weed), decides to play along and starts telling his "confession", encouraged constantly by Patrick to confess more and more details...

                  11. What if Joran was really innocent in the Natalee case....What if those Kalpoe brothers who accompanied him that night had something to do with it? What if criminal reporter Peter R. de Vries would not have started his hunt for Joran, inspired more and more by climbing rates on his tv-show, and Joran would still have been the student he was after the death of Natalee but before the hunt started? Without any hard evidence at all, Peter made sure the public convicted Joran before any trial had ever started....Just like now....whatever happend to "innocent until proven guilty"??? Joran was forced to quit his study at the University, left for Thailand where again he was traced and hunted after by Peter R. de Vries. He then went to Peru. What if Peter R. de Vries wouldn't have started his witch hunt? In that case Joran would still be at the University of Leiden in Holland. And guess what's more: Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez would still be alive today....
                  he is a fellow countryman of mine and he is being setup by evil americans

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                  • BelieverInGod
                    Fourm Member
                    Forum Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 9269

                    #10
                    Re: two very easy questions

                    Face it, any proof we give you, you would dismiss out of hand. Your heart has been hardened by God and you are damned to hell.

                    Mark 8:17 And when Jesus knew [it], he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?

                    John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with [their] eyes, nor understand with [their] heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

                    Drama queen

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                    • Jack Sparrow
                      Confirmed Enemy of God
                      BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 62

                      #11
                      Re: two very easy questions

                      no, if someone can show me real proof me He exsists, I really am willing to change my mind, until then, your Bible is in the same shelf as the book by the brothers Grimm to me...

                      but I'm not saying it couldn't be true, just proof it...

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                      • BelieverInGod
                        Fourm Member
                        Forum Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 9269

                        #12
                        Re: two very easy questions

                        Originally posted by Jack Sparrow View Post
                        no, if someone can show me real proof me He exsists, I really am willing to change my mind, until then, your Bible is in the same shelf as the book by the brothers Grimm to me...

                        but I'm not saying it couldn't be true, just proof it...
                        Well usually I would say pray for it, but since God does not hear prayers of those who don't have faith, I guess you're just going to have to trust us.

                        And really, the brothers Grimm? Although I enjoy their stories (the real ones, not the watered down PC versions available today) they're morality tales, not the Holy Bible.
                        Drama queen

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                        • True Disciple
                          True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                          Landover Baptist University Associate Professor
                          Smashing atheist science one fact at a time
                          True Christian™
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 2445

                          #13
                          Re: two very easy questions

                          Originally posted by Jack Sparrow View Post
                          because he is being setup by the american federal bureau of investigation...


                          he is a fellow countryman of mine and he is being setup by evil americans
                          Yet you admit that the Peruvian girl would "still be alive." He killed her, you know that. Why do you defend murderers?

                          Originally posted by Jack Sparrow View Post
                          no, if someone can show me real proof me He exsists, I really am willing to change my mind, until then, your Bible is in the same shelf as the book by the brothers Grimm to me...
                          Didn't you read my post? I asked you why I should use your "scientific method," but you don't have to use my "Biblical method." Somewhat double standards there, friend.

                          but I'm not saying it couldn't be true, just proof it...
                          The same accounts for evolution. Bible Chapter and Verse, and I will believe you.
                          Sweet Lord Jesus,
                          I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                          Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                          Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                          Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                          Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                          Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                          Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                          Amen.

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                          • Jack Sparrow
                            Confirmed Enemy of God
                            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 62

                            #14
                            Re: two very easy questions

                            is the Bible more than a bunch of morality tales then?
                            that's what I was tought at school it was...

                            but don't get me wrong, i've read a good portion of this forum since I came here the first time, and I think you people have some good points here and there, but also just as many points I disagree with...

                            so please give me some proof, or a good reason to believe...

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                            • Sister Christina
                              True Christian™
                              True Christian™
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 364

                              #15
                              Re: two very easy questions

                              Originally posted by Jack Sparrow View Post
                              is the Bible more than a bunch of morality tales then?
                              that's what I was tought at school it was...

                              but don't get me wrong, i've read a good portion of this forum since I came here the first time, and I think you people have some good points here and there, but also just as many points I disagree with...

                              so please give me some proof, or a good reason to believe...
                              Saving oneself from eternal damnation isn't reason enough for you?
                              "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." - Revelation 1:8

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