[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Ive heard better name calling from my 15 year old son!

How would a 17 year old transsexual boy have a 15 year old son?

Tell IT LIKE IT IS BROTHER HOMO! Learn to play cricket rather than go to church and sit there in a boring ass lecture about some guy that people are begginging to suspect is fake. GO HAVE FUN WITH YOUR LIFE. LIVE IT TO THE MAX. DONT WASTE IT IN SOME BORING PLACE WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS. NO ONE NEEDS THIS CRAP. NO ONE AT ALL

Since you are so bored, then have fun in ban-town, and don't re-register this time.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

How do you know that Islam, or any other religion for that matter, is inspired by any supernatural being at all? How do you know that Mohammad didn't come up with all of the ideas in there himself? Do you know for certain that an angel appeared before Mohammad and told him what to write? Or did Mohammad just write whatever he thought it would take to convince the warring Arabic tribes to unite?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Gosh Pastor. You sure are nice to those raggedy heads. I need to learn some more of your tolerance. Do you have tolerance classes I can attend? How much do they cost?

[dauodwa123]

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I'm sorry...all I heard was 'blah blah blah, I'm an ignorant wannabe Jihadist whose own religion can't offer me an education, so I have to go to a Christian school and listen to a bunch of bigoted kiddy fiddling catholic priest whine about how the Irish were mistreated when they came to Australia.
Why don't you learn to play cricket instead of getting involved in religious studies...?

Peace Be Upon You, You asked me a question so I will have to take back my comment which said "this is my last comment" and suspend it indefinitely. I study Religion, because it is my passion, and because God Almighty orders Muslims in the Qu'ran to learn all they can about religion, all religion, regardless of which one. I have not yet studied all religions in depth, but it is my intention. Also, I was never much good at Cricket. I prefer Soccer and AFL (Australian Rules Football). Whilst Muslims can offer me an education, I have a part scholarship at the Catholic School, which I might add is responsible for producing many of the important figures in South Australian Courts, and can also be thanked for inviting Afghan and African refugees when they were allowed to live in Australia. Also, it is not just Catholics who educate me. Other Christian denominations have also supported these views. Also, you claim that I am the ignorant, but you are the one who fails to consider my argument and contemplate on the meaning of words therein. It is you who mocks rather than considers. It is you who insults rather than accepts. It is you who claimed you don't hate me, and yet continue to abuse me on the site with racist words and sayings. Please, I urge you to consider that regardless of our personal beliefs, we must work together for the sake of mankind, and the sake of God. I hope you considered the Biblical quote i included in my response, but having read your response I think you chose to ignore it. Also, it is interesting that your only argument against a 16 year old is reduced to stereotype and racism, as well as insults, proven to be highly unfit grounds for a reasonable and logical argument. All Australian historians agree that the Irish, Chinese, Scottish, Italians, Greeks, Muslims, Vietnamese and others were mistreated when they first arrived in Australia. For instance the Afghan Camaleers were not allowed to bring their families and settle in Australia. The Italians and Greeks were subject to racism for many years, and were used as an inexpensive labour force. There was much social and inherent bias against all these people when they first arrived, and that is a fact which you cannot dismiss with your "ignorant" dissmissals of my sources (i.e. Australian Historians, government spokespeople, museums etc). Thank you for your words, Peace Be Upon You

[Brother Guy Bayard]

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Peace Be Upon You, You asked me a question so I will have to take back my comment which said "this is my last comment" and suspend it indefinitely. I study Religion, because it is my passion, and because God Almighty orders Muslims in the Qu'ran to learn all they can about religion, all religion, regardless of which one. I have not yet studied all religions in depth, but it is my intention. Also, I was never much good at Cricket. I prefer Soccer and AFL (Australian Rules Football). Whilst Muslims can offer me an education, I have a part scholarship at the Catholic School, which I might add is responsible for producing many of the important figures in South Australian Courts, and can also be thanked for inviting Afghan and African refugees when they were allowed to live in Australia. Also, it is not just Catholics who educate me. Other Christian denominations have also supported these views. Also, you claim that I am the ignorant, but you are the one who fails to consider my argument and contemplate on the meaning of words therein. It is you who mocks rather than considers. It is you who insults rather than accepts. It is you who claimed you don't hate me, and yet continue to abuse me on the site with racist words and sayings. Please, I urge you to consider that regardless of our personal beliefs, we must work together for the sake of mankind, and the sake of God. I hope you considered the Biblical quote i included in my response, but having read your response I think you chose to ignore it. Also, it is interesting that your only argument against a 16 year old is reduced to stereotype and racism, as well as insults, proven to be highly unfit grounds for a reasonable and logical argument. All Australian historians agree that the Irish, Chinese, Scottish, Italians, Greeks, Muslims, Vietnamese and others were mistreated when they first arrived in Australia. For instance the Afghan Camaleers were not allowed to bring their families and settle in Australia. The Italians and Greeks were subject to racism for many years, and were used as an inexpensive labour force. There was much social and inherent bias against all these people when they first arrived, and that is a fact which you cannot dismiss with your "ignorant" dissmissals of my sources (i.e. Australian Historians, government spokespeople, museums etc). Thank you for your words, Peace Be Upon You

Come back when you're 18, friend.

[dauodwa123]

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A religion inspired by the Devil could do all of those things. It's often said that the Devil will tell nine truths to get you to believe one lie.

However, you missed the point of my questions.

I have read the Quran, and I know that there are some passages here and there that nearly everyone would agree with, and you have pointed out many of them. However, there is nothing unique among any of them. There is nothing among any of those passages that cannot also be found in Christianity, Wicca, Hinduism, Buddhism, Secular Humanism, or even Anton LaVey Satanism.

How do you know that Islam, or any other religion for that matter, is inspired by any supernatural being at all? How do you know that Mohammad didn't come up with all of the ideas in there himself? Do you know for certain that an angel appeared before Mohammad and told him what to write? Or did Mohammad just write whatever he thought it would take to convince the warring Arabic tribes to unite?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Peace be upon you, I know that the Quran is the word of God because the Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him was illiterate, and yet the Quran is recognised as the greatest arabic work of poetry ever written. Also, it should be noted that there are some messages in the Quran which are not yet understood, for instance Aleef Laam Meem. However, things like this slowly come to light. One indication of the Qurans authenticity was only recently discovered when a complete index of the Quran was written and it was realised that the number of times certain words appear is perfectly balance and logical. For instance, the word Month appears twelve times. For the argument of how I know that it is inspired by God or any supernatural being, that is the miracle of faith, the same is applicable to devout Christians. Yes, some of the messages of Islam are not unique. That is because, as I have stated, the religion of Islam did not start with the Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him, he was merely the last prophet and perfected the religion. That is why Islam teaches us of all the Prophets that are found in the bible, and teaches us that we have to respect their messages, as they are our prophets as well. That is also why I stated earlier that mistreating the bible would be just as bad as mistreating the Quran, because the prophets and their stories are present in the bible. Muslims believe that the Bible and Torah, Pslams and Gospels and all religious books of Christianity and Judaism are the word of god, but have been diluted by the words of men, when they have been translated into other languages for instance; part of their meaning is lost. That is why the Quran is kept in a perfect state from when it was revealed until now. MAJOR NOTE: My intention on this forum was never to prove to you that Islam is correct. Rather, to convince everyone that we must love all those around us, and respect them regardless of their faith, creed or religion. I submit to you that you must even love Satanist, as they are humans. But you should hate the actions that they partake in and be sure not to agree with their believes. Loving someone doesnt mean that you have to believe their doctrines, it means that you respect their right to follow the doctrine of their choice. Peace Be Upon You. PS, just some angry guy: I know what you mean when no one needs this, but it is my wish for people to understand that we Muslims are open for dialogue, and respect between the religions. If all of us respected on another, would there be any wars? The answer is no; all wars are fundementally ideological, and unless we respect each others ideologies there will always be war, which is most certainly a bad thing. Peace be with you brother.

[dauodwa123]

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Come back when you're 18, friend.

Peace be upon you, Rest assured I shall, but I find it impossible at the moment to stop countering the negative arguments on this page. May God Almighty give me strength, and reassure my tolerance, and send tolerance to all mankind. Thanks for your comments, Peace Be Upon You PS I study the bible regularly, just as I do the Quran. I must have hundreds of book marks in my copy of the Bible. It is the New Jerusalem Bible though, not the King James Version. Although I have a copy of that as well, I have been assured by Christian theologians and priests that The New Jerusalem Bible is an adequate source for quotes for all Christians. Thanks again.

[Marshall]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Islam the recognized religion of terrorism and death worldwide? When you think "Terrorist" you think "Muslim" because the two words are interchangeable.

The King James Version 1611 is the only REAL Bible.

[dauodwa123]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Islam the recognized religion of terrorism and death worldwide? When you think "Terrorist" you think "Muslim" because the two words are interchangeable.

Peace Be upon you, Thank you for your comments. Many people say this, yes. But this is because of the fact that all they see in the media is so called "Islamic Terrorists". If the only thing that Muslims were shown in Islamic countries on TV was about say Americans denying the rights of African Americans, they would think that all AMericans are bad aswell. This media representation will not change until people change their minds, and learn tolerance. Hence my blogging here. Thanks again, Peace be Upon you.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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I know that the Quran is the word of God because the Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him was illiterate, and yet the Quran is recognised as the greatest arabic work of poetry ever written.

You are not thinking for yourself. You are only regurgitating apologetics that have been fed to you.

You don't know that Mohammad was illiterate. There is only hearsay and tradition that says he was illiterate.

Mecca was a thriving business center in Mohammad's time and the vast majority of the population was educated. Mohammad was a successful businessman before he became a religious leader. It is highly unlikely that Mohammad was illiterate.

Does that make you wonder if there is anything else you believe that isn't true?

Unfortunately, I am going to have to ban you again. Don't feel like you have to post a response. Just think for yourself about these questions. Please don't go running to your Islamic Scholars or to apologist websites, to have them do your thinking for you.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Marshall]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Offering Niggras a backseat on the bus is the same as suicide bombings? I cannot understand how such well spoken folks can defend their faiths use of religion as a means to kill those who don't believe in their imaginary friend. It makes no sense in the 21st century. The religion is a death cult. It's a well spoken(in English writing, not spoken or in the Hellish Arabic) and intricate death cult. Most Muslims are polite but harbor hatred in their heart for all things non-Islamic. It's just sick.
Not like the sweet religion of Jesus the one true Son of God. He believes in Saving the innocent and relieving the planet of only the dregs so we who believe have more to enjoy without worrying about being raped by a gay or accosted by a Catholic. Clearly it is the superior faith and all Muslims would be better off accepting Jesus and converting to a real religion like Baptist.
When your faith calls for the death of "infidels" (Christians) then you are doing the Devils bidding.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

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Here is one thing that was discovered i 1665 in the West.

http://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/innoastronomy.html

"They were widely admired and translated even as far away as England, where John Greaves, professor at Oxford, called attention to them in 1665."

In 1665 the Muslims didn't invent anything. In 1665 a British historian discovered that they had, IN THE PAST, invented things, back before they had managed to complete their extermination of Persian and Byzantine culture.

In 1665 Islam had successfully converted the middle east to the state of barbarity it has enjoyed to this day, and you can't blame the West for that. Western empires at this time consisted of a few hungry settlement villages and a trading post here and there.

You accuse the west of dividing and destroying the great Persian civilization? No! That's like saying that the janitor who mops up the blood and guts after a suicide bomber scores an "own goal" is the killer. And that's all that the Islam World is. A suicide bomber that scored an "own goal".

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

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Well, that was interesting. I'm going to have to digest all this for a while before I can figure out what we've all just learned.

I guess my frustration with the state of the Middle East is that I know these people can do better. They did great things as Christians, as Zorastrians, even as pagans and Jews. It's only when they started to base their entire worldview on the rantings of a pedophile that things went downhill.

It's not like their Black and can get away with the racial inferiority excuse. Christian Blacks work very hard to overcome their limits, they use every bit of their little brains to remember how to obey laws and such. I can practically hear their little brains ticking away "Fried chikken....allowed to eat....peepul....not 'lowed to eat..."

But Middle Easterners have no excuse because they're capable of more. I mean, even when the Egyptians followed a pagan cat-worshipping cult they still managed to build some pretty impressive fake mountains. If they were Christian they would have just moved to a place with real mountains, for the sake of efficiency, but as Muslims Egypt hasn't achieved a thing.

And now they want to export their failure to our countries.

Shave that beard, take that diaper off your head and flush it, pull your tallywacker out of that camel and/or daughter and pick up a Bible before it's too late!

[Why?just simply,why?]

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When I first read this forum I was angry, then SICK and now, just simply sad. Can you not see how disgusting and despicably racist you are being, have you learnt nothing from your religion or even the history of your own country! Pastors, priests, brothers, whatever you call yourselves, you are less than the dogshit I clean off my shoes. You have shamed yourselves, your church, your religion and Christians in general! I am almost disgusted to call myself Christian after seeing people like you, the supposed leaders in this religion behaving like ignorant pigs! Does not the bible teach us peace? Does not it teach us to love our neighbour? It hurts me to see how truly blind you are when a 16 year old can comprehend more than your lifetime of study in your befouled view on Christianity as lead you to believe.

Brother Guy, you most of all disgust me. (quote) “

No, actually the Irish and Scottish arrived after Australia was well established.

Wrong flat out wrong my friend. who do you think the first settlers, soldiers and convicts were? The BRITISH. Who are the British? English, Welsh, Scots and Irish...You are Incorrect, because you have been taught by racist ignorant teachers..”

YOU ARE WRONG! You know nothing of Australian history, this is the information taught to every single student in Australia, HOW DARE YOU insult every single teacher, the education structure and Australia’s history in general! I attend a Christian school in Sydney, here we a taught very similar views to what Dauodwa is expressing, I can firmly say I believe his claims to being in a catholic school as what he describes is similar to what I learnt, also we have muslims and other religious groups at my school. Education should never be denied to no one! I have also of Saint Ignatius college.

Once again I bring my topic back to ignorance. “America, the greatest country on earth” (a quote I have heard in many places) yet, you do not see how wrong you are. Massacres and deaths plague your society! Guns! I can not begin to fathom why they are legal! Your whole society is founded on death and destruction and war in general. (that’s not to say Australia is not either, atleast we were able to correct our mistakes) However, you still seem to proclaim that you are the greatest country, or the most peaceful, as was quoted by Jeb Thurmond. Here in Australia we find your ignorance laughable.

None of you are worthy to call yourselves Christians. What you preach is not Christianity but some garbled and befouled racist opinion. This is not what Jesus taught us. He wants us to love all and respect all. God did not create the earth for us to fight, nor did he put us here to damn us, nor is the right to damn anyone the choices of a human. Who are you to proclaim who God will damn? I would love to say to each of you that he will damn you, but that goes against my views and my religion.

Jeb Thurmond, Brother Guy, Pastor Ezekiel. May you see the error of your ways before Judgement day and may god have mercy upon your sinful souls.

Father Thomas Martin, Just Some Angry Guy. You two have done a great thing with your words alone. You both should be praised eternally.

Dauodwa, you have my greatest respect, it must have taken a lot of courage to begin this discussion, yet alone remain as passive and dignified as you did, I know I never would have been able to. You have my greatest respect. Peace on you friend, never give up hope with these people, one day, they may too see things from your point of view and comprehend what they could achieve.

In my opinion, God is caring and loving and would never damn any of his children, I am not one to preach religion, but I know this, God would never approve of the opinions of these racists “priests” in this forum.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Boys and girls, the post above was made by an unsaved heathen who imagines that they know "what Jesus taught", but they haven't bothered to actually sit down and read the Holy Bible. If they had, they would know that we preach only the love of God on these boards.

Another hellbound fool, on its way to the eternal lake of fire. Praise Jesus!!

[Marshall]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

This terrorist is lucky I have to replace the brakelines in my two row harvester or I'd be here rebuking till the cows come home! As for this "Why?" person...you seem a little angry and ignorant. Check the history books Sally! America is the greatest nation on the planet. We are armed to the teeth and not afraid to shoot a sinner dead!