[DumbWood]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Friend, you are misunderstanding Jeb's question about Arabic inventions. He asked you to name something invented by Muslims within the past 500 years. You keep responding with links to lists of Arabic/Muslim inventions that are all older than 500 years. I looked though every list you posted, and every single invention listed is more than 500 years old.

Is this your way of admitting that the Islamic world has created no new inventions in the last 500 years?

Are you aware that one doesn't need to order special literature from a Christian church to learn about inventions from the Christian world? One also doesn't need to order special literature from a Shinto temple to learn about Japanese inventions.

I am praying for your immortal soul, friend. I urge you to read this tract, to learn about the true origins of Islam. You have been lied to, friend.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Peace Be Upon You,

Brother the true origin of Islam comes from the first Man and Prophet, Adam Peace Be Upon Him. This is the beginning of Islamic History, and I have read countless items such as the one you posted, and if you only asked a scholar in Islam he would explain these things to you. Also, the inventions that I noted included several that were only discovered as early as 300 years ago. Furthermore, as I stated, once British and French colonialism became the ruler over Islamic lands, they put an end to all schools of thought and failed to sponsor any progress in any academic area. Thank you very much for your input, concern and most of all your civil tongue (perhaps in this case civil fingers!). It is much appreciated.

Peace Be Upon You, and may God almighty bless you and your brothers and teach you tolerance and understanding of Islam and Islamic History, as well as other religions. Thank you very much for your post.

[Just Some Angry Guy]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Okay you guys, is this really necessary? I mean, why not be tolerant of other human beings, OF ANY KIND. So what if they worship the wrong "God" or they have a different Sexual Orientation than you, or they even just dress according to how they want. Let them be. Unless they come trying to shove religion, homosexuality or anything of the sort down your throat, <ET THEM BE! They will rot in Hell regardless of whether you TELL THEM THEY WILL OR NOT! Understand that, PLEASE. Senseless arguing is just pointless and it makes me so angry! Whew....I just wish we had a world where everyone could get along, and not "hate on" others..
Peace All

[DumbWood]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

No where in the Holy Bible does Jesus urge us to tolerate worshipers of false Gods. Nor Does Jesus make any peace claims.

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division.--Luke 12:51

As for that herd of fools "most Christian theologians" you refer to, they are almost as misguided as you. False Christianity abounds, but at least they don't worship a moon "God" and a pedophile false prophet.

You will never catch me mollycoddling America's enemies, diaperhead.

Peace Be Upon You,

Brother, as I explained Muslims and Christians worship the same lord, the one and only eternal God. It is a pity that you are unwilling to promote interfaith understanding. I am not saying that you should accept Islam, rather I am stating that you should love your fellow man. Did not God create Adam, the father of us all? Are we not his descendants? Should the disunited sons of Adam continue to hate each other? Or should they unite, and love each other for the sake of God Almighty, and humanity. Thank you for your response.

Peace Be Upon You

[Just Some Angry Guy]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Peace Be Upon You,

Brother, as I explained Muslims and Christians worship the same lord, the one and only eternal God. It is a pity that you are unwilling to promote interfaith understanding. I am not saying that you should accept Islam, rather I am stating that you should love your fellow man. Did not God create Adam, the father of us all? Are we not his descendants? Should the disunited sons of Adam continue to hate each other? Or should they unite, and love each other for the sake of God Almighty, and humanity. Thank you for your response.

Peace Be Upon You

I agree 100% with you Brother. Understanding of his fellow man....I just wish everyone would realize there is NO POINT in all the fighting and arguing that SOME PEOPLE enjoy so much.....
*Sigh* Well, some people never change, I am sorry to say...

[DumbWood]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Friend, you are misunderstanding Jeb's question about Arabic inventions. He asked you to name something invented by Muslims within the past 500 years. You keep responding with links to lists of Arabic/Muslim inventions that are all older than 500 years. I looked though every list you posted, and every single invention listed is more than 500 years old.

Is this your way of admitting that the Islamic world has created no new inventions in the last 500 years?

Are you aware that one doesn't need to order special literature from a Christian church to learn about inventions from the Christian world? One also doesn't need to order special literature from a Shinto temple to learn about Japanese inventions.

I am praying for your immortal soul, friend. I urge you to read this tract, to learn about the true origins of Islam. You have been lied to, friend.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Post script from my previous response to this.

Also, I would note that Islam teaches us of all these prophets, and this information is nothing new to us. The trinity and why Muslims do not believe can be sourced to the Qu'ran, as can all other things. I am not a Muslim Scholar, I am only 16, but I have read the teachings of Islamic Scholars on these type of issues, and rest assured that they have provided good responses. In the Quran it states more or less that there is nothing that can be asked of a Muslim for which an answer has not been provided. I just dont know the answers yet, as I have not completed my education in Islam. Indeed, this is an ongoing process and will not end until the day I die, for Islam is vast and beautifull, and its message is undeniable. This however, is not my intention on this forum. My intention is to promote interfaith dialogue. Thanks again for you comment,

Peace Be Upon You

[DumbWood]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

I agree 100% with you Brother. Understanding of his fellow man....I just wish everyone would realize there is NO POINT in all the fighting and arguing that SOME PEOPLE enjoy so much.....
*Sigh* Well, some people never change, I am sorry to say...

Peace Be Upon You, and the blessings of God Almighty,

Thank you for your kind words and understanding or my intentions. What you say is true, there is no fruit that can be harvested from war mongering and arguing. The best fruit is the fruit of peace and understanding. I am so glad that there are people such as your self, who understand the importance of kindness to fellow man and its importance to achieving peace.

Thank you so much for this blog.

Peace Be Upon You.

[Just Some Angry Guy]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Post script from my previous response to this.

Also, I would note that Islam teaches us of all these prophets, and this information is nothing new to us. The trinity and why Muslims do not believe can be sourced to the Qu'ran, as can all other things. I am not a Muslim Scholar, I am only 16, but I have read the teachings of Islamic Scholars on these type of issues, and rest assured that they have provided good responses. In the Quran it states more or less that there is nothing that can be asked of a Muslim for which an answer has not been provided. I just dont know the answers yet, as I have not completed my education in Islam. Indeed, this is an ongoing process and will not end until the day I die, for Islam is vast and beautifull, and its message is undeniable. This however, is not my intention on this forum. My intention is to promote interfaith dialogue. Thanks again for you comment,

Peace Be Upon You

BAD BAD BAD. (its not gonna me to do it) BUT, you are about to be banned for being underage. You must be 18. Also, i would like to comment this: You sir are a very intelligent young man, and iI believe you will do well in life, regardless of what people on here tell you. Keep up the good work, i admire you A LOT!

[DumbWood]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Okay you guys, is this really necessary? I mean, why not be tolerant of other human beings, OF ANY KIND. So what if they worship the wrong "God" or they have a different Sexual Orientation than you, or they even just dress according to how they want. Let them be. Unless they come trying to shove religion, homosexuality or anything of the sort down your throat, <ET THEM BE! They will rot in Hell regardless of whether you TELL THEM THEY WILL OR NOT! Understand that, PLEASE. Senseless arguing is just pointless and it makes me so angry! Whew....I just wish we had a world where everyone could get along, and not "hate on" others..
Peace All

Peace Be Upon You,

Once again I am delighted to hear your kind words. This is exactly true. We may believe that someone will face divine retribution, but this does not mean that we should hate them on the Earth. Their quarrel is with God Almighty. Thanks for your response,

Peace Be Upon You

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

No, actually the Irish and Scottish arrived after Australia was well established. Wrong flat out wrong my friend. who do you think the first settlers, soldiers and convicts were? The BRITISH. Who are the British? English, Welsh, Scots and Irish...You are Incorrect, because you have been taught by racist ignorant teachers..There was a government, and by that time most people had been settled into farming and other land. The Irish and Scottish were subject to harassment even as late as the 1890's. Where are you getting your information from my ill-informed friend? from your muslim religious school? Its not a very good one, because your information is full of racist hate and lies.And the worst behaved in Australia, I think you'll find, are the "skin heads" (quote from Aus. Media) who went on a drunknd rampage in Cronulla beating all non-Anglo people, lebanese, italians, greeks and the like. The cronulla riots were as I am to understand it, a demonstration by all manner of people who were sick of Lebanese muslm criminals beating up surf lifesavers and innocent citizens. Only the lebanese muslims were the object of the demonstrations. They continue to be the highest represented of any ethnic group per capita in your prison system. And I never accused anyone of being intolerbly racist. what i said was that the Irish had to go through a rough patch of racism, and following that they were accepted. This is a historically accurate comment, and you will find that it is coroborated by Australian historians. We were taught this in year 9 of school in Religious Education (Muslim religious education - is that an oxymoron??), and there were many primary and secondary sources which prove these facts. I would urge you to investigate further in these matters before claiming that my comments are false or inacurate. I would urge you my friend to check your sources of information before you regurgitate them in all their glorious inaccuracy here on Gods favourite forum. One thing that Muslims have done to benefit Australia? For one thing, Afghan Camaleers were the only way to communicate and send supplies through the harsh Australian deserts. My friend Afghan cameleers did indeed help build the Ghan railroad. As paid employees. You want them to get medals for having jobs? I have a job - should I get a medal for being a christian? Following this, a train line was built, and the train that runs on it is now called "The Ghan" and has the symbol of an Afghan on his camel on it, this is a national icon. Also, Muslim doctors come from overseas to fill in the positions in hospitals which Australian doctors cannot, and thus help the community Like dr Patel? the queensland doctor of death? yeah thanks for him mate he's a real gift....

You my ill informed Afghani friend have been taught deliberate innacurracies by your religious school designed to create hate for Anglo Australians. How do I know this? I have a great deal of Interest in Australia, and keep up to date on every piece of news I can, including your joke of a Sheik al-hilaly - the "thick-sheik' as he is known in Sydney.
If you're so proud of being Australian, why do you have tha Afghani flag on your other forum instead of the Australian one?

[DumbWood]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

BAD BAD BAD. (its not gonna me to do it) BUT, you are about to be banned for being underage. You must be 18. Also, i would like to comment this: You sir are a very intelligent young man, and iI believe you will do well in life, regardless of what people on here tell you. Keep up the good work, i admire you A LOT!

Peace Be Upon You,

Thank you so much for your kind words. i believe the same for you, thank you for your comments. God willing, I will continue to attempt to promote peace and love amongst mankind regardless of race. Although I may be banned, I have achieved what I intended, which is to show that in the face of hatred, peace can still operate, as can tolerance and love. Thank you so much once again, and perhaps if I am banned I will be back in two years when I am 18.

Peace Be Upon All Of You, and May God Almighty Allow All Mankind To Love Each Other Despite Their Creed Or Race.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

I am not a Muslim Scholar, I am only 16, but I have read the teachings of Islamic Scholars on these type of issues, and rest assured that they have provided good responses.

You do realize that it is the job of the Islamic Scholars to say whatever they have to say to make sure you keep believing, don't you? You need to find out the answers for yourself. Don't rely on the answers that others feed you. It's fine if you read your Quran and your Hadiths, but do the work of verifying them. How do you know that the words in them are true? Do you believe it because your parents and your Imam say they are true? Are you thinking for yourself or are you letting others think for you?

Angry Atheist guy is right about one thing. I am going to have to ban you because you are underage. Think hard about my questions, and come back when you turn 18.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[DumbWood]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

[quote=Brother Guy;110752]

No, actually the Irish and Scottish arrived after Australia was well established. Wrong flat out wrong my friend. who do you think the first settlers, soldiers and convicts were? The BRITISH. Who are the British? English, Welsh, Scots and Irish...You are Incorrect, because you have been taught by racist ignorant teachers..There was a government, and by that time most people had been settled into farming and other land. The Irish and Scottish were subject to harassment even as late as the 1890's. Where are you getting your information from my ill-informed friend? from your muslim religious school? Its not a very good one, because your information is full of racist hate and lies.And the worst behaved in Australia, I think you'll find, are the "skin heads" (quote from Aus. Media) who went on a drunknd rampage in Cronulla beating all non-Anglo people, lebanese, italians, greeks and the like. The cronulla riots were as I am to understand it, a demonstration by all manner of people who were sick of Lebanese muslm criminals beating up surf lifesavers and innocent citizens. Only the lebanese muslims were the object of the demonstrations. They continue to be the highest represented of any ethnic group per capita in your prison system. And I never accused anyone of being intolerbly racist. what i said was that the Irish had to go through a rough patch of racism, and following that they were accepted. This is a historically accurate comment, and you will find that it is coroborated by Australian historians. We were taught this in year 9 of school in Religious Education (Muslim religious education - is that an oxymormon??), and there were many primary and secondary sources which prove these facts. I would urge you to investigate further in these matters before claiming that my comments are false or inacurate. I would urge you my friend to check your sources of information before you regurgitate them in all their glorious inaccuracy here on Gods favourite forum. One thing that Muslims have done to benefit Australia? For one thing, Afghan Camaleers were the only way to communicate and send supplies through the harsh Australian deserts. My friend Afghan cameleers did indeed help build the Ghan railroad. As paid employees. You want them to get medals for having jobs? I have a job - should I get a medal for being a christian? Following this, a train line was built, and the train that runs on it is now called "The Ghan" and has the symbol of an Afghan on his camel on it, this is a national icon. Also, Muslim doctors come from overseas to fill in the positions in hospitals which Australian doctors cannot, and thus help the community Like dr Patel? the queensland doctor of death? yeah thanks for him mate he's a real gift....[/quote]


You my ill informed Afghani friend have been taught deliberate innacurracies by your religious school designed to create hate for Anglo Australians. How do I know this? I have a great deal of Interest in Australia, and keep up to date on every piece of news I can, including your joke of a Sheik al-hilaly - the "thick-sheik' as he is known in Sydney.
If you're so proud of being Australian, why do you have tha Afghani flag on your other forum instead of the Australian one?

Peace be upon you,

First I have the Afghani flag on my otherone because I already established with everyone that I was also a patriotic Australian, and they accepted me. And I attend a main stream and highly prestigious Christian school in Australia. It was your priests and brothers who taught me this information. If you ask an Australian Historian regarding the matter, you will have your answers. The Irish were despised because of their Catholic faith, continuously. What about the thousands of other Muslim doctors who do benefit their community? I never said that they should win medals, I am saying they established in AUstralian History, and respected by Australia through Government initiatives and the like. The only reason that the train is still run is as a monument to the Afghans, it is not required anymore now that we have commercial airplanes and well built roads. Thank you for your comments.

Peace Be Upon You

[Just Some Angry Guy]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Peace Be Upon You,

Thank you so much for your kind words. i believe the same for you, thank you for your comments. God willing, I will continue to attempt to promote peace and love amongst mankind regardless of race. Although I may be banned, I have achieved what I intended, which is to show that in the face of hatred, peace can still operate, as can tolerance and love. Thank you so much once again, and perhaps if I am banned I will be back in two years when I am 18.

Peace Be Upon All Of You, and May God Almighty Allow All Mankind To Love Each Other Despite Their Creed Or Race.

Lol, yeah I hope to see you again!
Well, who knows, maybe they will let you slide by with it. As far as I have witnessed, Pastor Ezekiel has banned everyone I have seen under the age of eighteen, but he may be on a coffee break or something right now...lol
He really does have any respect for anything other than this forum, and his Church. I see no problem with having respect for them, but seriously, show respect to your fellow man/woman/Trans person. Well, considering this may be the last time I talk to you, I would like to bid you a FAREWELL MY FRIEND!

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

Peace Be Upon You,

Thank you so much for your kind words. i believe the same for you, thank you for your comments. God willing, I will continue to attempt to promote peace and love amongst mankind regardless of race. Although I may be banned, I have achieved what I intended, which is to show that in the face of hatred, peace can still operate, as can tolerance and love. Thank you so much once again, and perhaps if I am banned I will be back in two years when I am 18.

Peace Be Upon All Of You, and May God Almighty Allow All Mankind To Love Each Other Despite Their Creed Or Race.

I notice in the Afghan forums of which you are a member, you list among your interests as "guns". Is this how you plan to promote peace, tolerance and love ? With a firearm? Sort of makes your repetition of "peace be upon you" kind of meaningless, don't it?

[Just Some Angry Guy]

Re: Judaism, Christianity and Islam - The brother religions

You do realize that it is the job of the Islamic Scholars to say whatever they have to say to make sure you keep believing, don't you? You need to find out the answers for yourself. Don't rely on the answers that others feed you. It's fine if you read your Quran and your Hadiths, but do the work of verifying them. How do you know that the words in them are true? Do you believe it because your parents and your Imam say they are true? Are you thinking for yourself or are you letting others think for you?

Angry Atheist guy is right about one thing. I am going to have to ban you because you are underage. Think hard about my questions, and come back when you turn 18.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Angry Atheist Guy? I find that very offensive sir. I respect you, and your opinions, but what did I do to you? All I did was show some respect to a very polite young man. And by the way, why in the world do you have that creature Bush as your avatar on here?