[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I have read a good deal of this topic, and quite frankly, I am getting sick of this pointless arguing.

I am putting out a challenge. I, currently, (keep reading) am atheist (keep reading, this may interest you).

I will convert to Christianity, permanently, If any of you people can make a list of 10, logically sound arguments (with the logic behind them explained in detail) that can disprove any/all other non-Christian religion/set of beliefs.

Here's the catch: It must not be possible for those arguments to be used to disprove Christianity, or for any argument that logically stems from the arguments members of this forum post in response to this post.

I'll simplify it to you. I make it a list of 2.

1. Christians goes to heaven.
2. All others goes to hell.

God tells me this.

[Bob4God]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I have read a good deal of this topic, and quite frankly, I am getting sick of this pointless arguing.

You got so sick of it you went through with the entire registration process just to waltz in here and tell us how it was going to be from now on, eh?

We sure are fortunate you came along. I am not sure how we got along all these years without you.

[goldage5]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I'll simplify it to you. I make it a list of 2.

1. Christians goes to heaven.
2. All others goes to hell.

God tells me this.

I don't believe you read my entire post.

I know that you guys hate Islam/All other religions, but bear with me. Muslims believe that one of the biggest ways to get to Paradise is belief in Allah. Belief in Jesus/God is (basically) what makes someone a Christian. So, you can use your first argument to disprove Christianity. You can reverse that to make your second argument: All others go to hell. So, if you are not Muslim, you go to their equivalent of hell.

Sorry, those arguments do not work.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Sorry, those arguments do not work.

Feel free to use any actual factual facts to prove me wrong. You say we are wrong, burden of proof is on you. Show me by means I mentioned before that all the others does not go to hell.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I don't believe you read my entire post.

I know that you guys hate Islam/All other religions, but bear with me. Muslims believe that one of the biggest ways to get to Paradise is belief in Allah. Belief in Jesus/God is (basically) what makes someone a Christian. So, you can use your first argument to disprove Christianity. You can reverse that to make your second argument: All others go to hell. So, if you are not Muslim, you go to their equivalent of hell.

No one cares what a bunch of superstitious fools believe about their made up god. We have Jesus on our side, friend.

Sorry, those arguments do not work.

The Bible says its true. How does that argument work for you? You think you know better than 2000 years of people?

[goldage5]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Feel free to use any actual factual facts to prove me wrong. You say we are wrong, burden of proof is on you. Show me by means I mentioned before that all the others does not go to hell.

Show me that the others do go to hell. And don't use the bible as your source. The only argument you have backing of the bible is that it is always right? Why? Because the Bible is the word of "God". Why? Because the Bible says so. Why? Because the Bible is always right......The endless circle of illogical Christian argument.

Really, none of us can definitively prove that we go to heaven/hell, or that heaven/hell even exist. So, we have to resort to logic.

The logic proving you are wrong:

1. You have not showed any proof that I am wrong (logical proof or otherwise).

2. Therefore, the lack of evidence showing that I am wrong is evidence in and of itself that I am not wrong.

3. If I am not wrong, then I am right. I am saying you are wrong. Therefore, you are wrong.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Show me that the others do go to hell. And don't use the bible as your source. The only argument you have backing of the bible is that it is always right? Why? Because the Bible is the word of "God". Why? Because the Bible says so. Why? Because the Bible is always right......The endless circle of illogical Christian argument.

Really, none of us can definitively prove that we go to heaven/hell, or that heaven/hell even exist. So, we have to resort to logic.

The logic proving you are wrong:

1. You have not showed any proof that I am wrong (logical proof or otherwise).

2. Therefore, the lack of evidence showing that I am wrong is evidence in and of itself that I am not wrong.

3. If I am not wrong, then I am right. I am saying you are wrong. Therefore, you are wrong.

Yes, I base my reality in the very real word of God, the bible.

On what do you base your beliefs on? After all, they must be only beliefs, otherwise you would have given me those facts I asked for.

[goldage5]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Yes, I base my reality in the very real word of God, the bible.

On what do you base your beliefs on? After all, they must be only beliefs, otherwise you would have given me those facts I asked for.

So, you base your beliefs on circular logic? The bible is the word of god....because the bible says so....because the bible is always right....because the bible is the word of god....

Circular logic cannot be used in any kind of argument whatsoever. Why? Because it is supporting a premise with another premise. If you cannot grasp that, this should simplify it for you. http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~shagin/l...c-circular.htm

I have noticed that only one person has addressed my main point. That one person is now resorting to futilely attacking my logic with gibberish that can barely be called a point. And the other people who took those precious minutes out of their life of peace and praising Jesus did not even address my main point, they resorted to gibberish.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

So, you base your beliefs on circular logic? The bible is the word of god....because the bible says so....because the bible is always right....because the bible is the word of god....

Circular logic cannot be used in any kind of argument whatsoever. Why? Because it is supporting a premise with another premise. If you cannot grasp that, this should simplify it for you. http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~shagin/logfal-pbc-circular.htm

I have noticed that only one person has addressed my main point. That one person is now resorting to futilely attacking my logic with gibberish that can barely be called a point. And the other people who took those precious minutes out of their life of peace and praising Jesus did not even address my main point, they resorted to gibberish.

I must admit that it takes lot of faith to believe so strongly, as you do, in something you have absolutely no proof of. Sadly, religion you follow is a false one.

[goldage5]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

You know, not one person has given any real justification for why Christianity is the "correct" or "right" religion without referring to the Bible. As I have previously explained, the Bible is not a logical point (Circular Logic). I am now adding that it is a very biased point.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

You know, not one person has given any real justification for why Christianity is the "correct" or "right" religion without referring to the Bible. As I have previously explained, the Bible is not a logical point (Circular Logic). I am now adding that it is a very biased point.

So it should be easy for you then. Give me your proof that Jesus does not throw all non-Christians to hell. You can stop wasting your time on explaining circular logic and such. I've seen so many blind atheists believers to know circular logic very well.

Go on, any time now.

[goldage5]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

So it should be easy for you then. Give me your proof that Jesus does not throw all non-Christians to hell. You can stop wasting your time on explaining circular logic and such. I've seen so many blind atheists believers to know circular logic very well.

Go on, any time now.

My proof is the lack of your proof. Give me proof that he does (without circular logic).

And I would like an example of "so many blind atheist believers to know circular logic as well".

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

My proof is the lack of your proof. Give me proof that he does (without circular logic).

And I would like an example of "so many blind atheist believers to know circular logic as well".

Ah, now I get it. You call magic card of circular logic on me, because you use yourself superior logic of believing on something because you believe so.
I'm sorry, I was totally wrong.

So, what is the purpose of YOUR sad, sorry life?

[goldage5]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Ah, now I get it. You call magic card of circular logic on me, because you use yourself superior logic of believing on something because you believe so.
I'm sorry, I was totally wrong.

So, what is the purpose of YOUR sad, sorry life?

Hmm...the purpose of my life....

Well, its not to rape children or anything like that. That's just plain wrong. It goes against my moral code. Other things against my moral code: Stealing, murder, genocide, etc.

The purpose of life is, more or less, to exist and reproduce. And die, or course.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Hmm...the purpose of my life....

Well, its not to rape children or anything like that. That's just plain wrong. It goes against my moral code. Other things against my moral code: Stealing, murder, genocide, etc.

The purpose of life is, more or less, to exist and reproduce. And die, or course.

How does it feel that you thought in your head, that it is a good idea to come to debunk silly Christians religion once and for all, but instead you noticed that you base your life in beliefs that you are not sure sure about yourself after all?

Is it working as you planned?