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  • #76
    Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

    Well, Reverend Green,

    I guess you are right, after I have read the Bible quotes.
    But then one has to go on asking.

    At first I want to say, that I don't call myself a true Christian. I'm afraid most of you now dislike me even more than before, but I want to stay honest.
    When I said, I believe in the same God you belive in, I just wanted to say that I think there's a higher and greater whatever, which we can't understand or reach, but which we perhaps call God. And it might be true that 2000 year ago he sent his son, who was actually himself, down to earth to save our souls and the possibility to be forgiven for all our sins.
    This is a very nice thought, which I really like, but unfortunately I'm still agnostic.

    I can't understand why this story should be more true than for example the story some muslems, buddhists or jews tell us.
    How can we be sure that Christianity is the only true way? I'm not sure about that.

    And a further point is, that the Bible was not written by Jesus, as far as I know. The old testament was written by many many different People and the new one by Marcus, Matthew, Lucas and John (do you call them like this in english?) during the first century after Jesus died.
    I always learnd they where just maybe inspired by the holy ghost, but not the direct words of God.
    And I was also told by my teachers that many of the things in the Bible just show us the rules, which were necessary in former times, like Leviticus.
    And in the end, I was told that God doesn't hate human beings at all. In the old testament we remark God as a strict father who punishes his children, but after Jesus came to earth, he changed. Now God will forgive our sins, if we are only truely sorry for them.

    So all toghether, for me personally it's not necessary to follow all these Bible rules like Leviticus that strictly. I still can't imagine God would hate me and if he does or you really want to tell me that there's a God who is able to hate us people, I wouldn't like him either. I can't believe in such a God. I was always told God was good, he loves us all, he will forgive us our sins and so on.
    What would a God be worth who hates us? I think, that if God exists, he has only good attitudes and is the reason for all the good things in the world, but not for people suffering in hell for all eternity.

    The people who put the final edition of nower days Bible together were also only human beings, bishops, who sorted out, what they like and what they disliked at the concil of chalcedon and nicäa.
    Or is this not what you believe? I mean, I really don't know exactly what you believe. In Germany we don't have that much baptists. I myself are catholic and catholics and protestants here in Europe believe it this way.

    Please don't be angry with me for just showing my opinion. I only want to learn more about yours.

    ....and I thinks it's possible to be tolerant about this, even for your people here, as in the end it's Got who judges.
    Now I'm convinced and I found my way back to God. Praise the Lord!

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    • #77
      Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

      Did you come here to learn how to be a good Christian, or to just criticize others for their beliefs?
      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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      • #78
        Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

        I didn't say I came here to lear how to be a good christian, I said I'm here to learn about other peoples belief.
        But if you feel criticized, I'm sorry. As I said, I'm not here for causing any trouble.
        I just want to view the point from different sides and have a discussion about religion and belief. this is necessary if one wants so find an own way, isn't it?
        Now I'm convinced and I found my way back to God. Praise the Lord!

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        • #79
          Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

          We're not here to help you find your 'own' way. You can mess that up all by yourself. This is a place to share the glory of Jesus and worship in His name. Why are you here again? To cause trouble?
          May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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          • #80
            Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

            Well, unfortunately it seems that I really cause trouble here in your eyes.
            Is there non of you interested in a dialogue? Or just about getting to know about some true facts. I can't tell you about Bible facts, in this point you are much more experienced, but you have a wrong opinion about goths. Therefore I'm just here for telling you that you were told wrong facts.
            So if you all here talk so much about this scene, wouldn't it be helpful to get to know one of these people, who is involved in this and may give you sure information?

            And I think it wouldn't be too bad, getting a bit closer, so we can view the whole thing together in a bigger horizon.
            Now I'm convinced and I found my way back to God. Praise the Lord!

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            • #81
              Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

              Originally posted by C. Van Friedhoven View Post
              I myself are catholic
              Case and point! Thank you for just confirming everything I've just said. You are NOT a Christian at all, you are a filthy CATHOLIC!

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              • #82
                Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                Oh, I didn't know you all here also don't like catholics. So what's wrong with them? They also believe in Christ and have a very similar belief compared to yours.
                But surely you can admit, catholics are not as bad as muslims or buddhists or whatever, are they?

                Hmmm.. now I'm gettin weired. Shouldn't all christian stick together?
                Now I'm convinced and I found my way back to God. Praise the Lord!

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                • #83
                  Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                  Originally posted by C. Van Friedhoven View Post
                  But Victory,
                  may I ask you, do you know any goth who did these bad sins? This is not a rhethoric question, I'm really interested in this.
                  I don't have any goth friends as I don't normally run in those circles. I have observed several goths from afar however. You seem like a reasonable person. This makes me wonder why you want to cut yourself and eat raw meat.

                  As far as your dress, if you don't like the way people judge you by your appearance, why don't you compromise? Maybe if you could wear the same style of clothing, except in pretty and bright colors rather than black. Don't you think those puffy pants you wear would be prettier if they were a nice shade of purple or pink? Maybe wear a yellow top sometimes? These are just suggestions.

                  Originally posted by C. Van Friedhoven View Post
                  But surely you can admit, catholics are not as bad as muslims or buddhists or whatever, are they?
                  I can sum a lot of our negative feelings towards Catholics in one word: child molestation. Surely you don't believe it's ok to diddle little boys, do you?
                  Let Jesus Christ Wash You Clean
                  in 2016

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                  • #84
                    Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                    Originally posted by C. Van Friedhoven View Post
                    Oh, I didn't know you all here also don't like catholics. So what's wrong with them? They also believe in Christ and have a very similar belief compared to yours.
                    But surely you can admit, catholics are not as bad as muslims or buddhists or whatever, are they?

                    Hmmm.. now I'm gettin weired. Shouldn't all christian stick together?
                    Not to get off subject, see THIS thread for details of why Catholics are NOT Christians -



                    Honestly, this is like teaching Christianity to a 3 year old child.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                      Dear Victory,

                      I'm glad that at least one person here talks to me in a serious way. Thank's for that!

                      But I must say, I don't cut my arms and I don't eat raw meat. I don't even eat meat at all, I'm a vegetarian.

                      Your suggestion about clothes can be nearly accepted by me.
                      I don't even wear always only black. I admit, it's mostly black, but not always. I also wear totally white dresses or black and gold coloured dresses. I'm very interested in historical fashion and of couse not everything of that is black.

                      You are also right, that of couse it's a horrible thing if priests abuse little boys, but I'm also sure not every catholic priest does this. It's the same like with us goths. There are one or two "black sheeps" who behave wrongly and everybody believes that all the others do so, too.
                      Of course I won't ever tolerate abusing children by priests or anyone else.

                      I'd really like to post here one or two pictures so that I could show you the way I dress, which may not be as black and daemon-like as you probalby think. I just have to find out how this works
                      Now I'm convinced and I found my way back to God. Praise the Lord!

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                      • #86
                        Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                        Originally posted by C. Van Friedhoven View Post

                        Oh, I didn't know you all here also don't like catholics. So what's wrong with them? They also believe in Christ and have a very similar belief compared to yours.
                        But surely you can admit, catholics are not as bad as muslims or buddhists or whatever, are they?

                        Hmmm.. now I'm gettin weired. Shouldn't all christian stick together?
                        Whoa there, Mrs Friedhooves, you need some straightening out on this. Catholics are not Christians, they worship Mary who was only an instrument to to be used by the Holy Spirit to conceive and give physical birth to our LORD JESUS. That was her whole purpose, and when she had fullfilled it she was of no particular importance, and of very little use to her son JESUS Himself, as it is written thus:

                        Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
                        Luke 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

                        So you see that there is no such thing as 'sticking together of all Christians.' Make no mistake. There are True Christians™ and there are the unsaved. Catholics are not Saved®





                        Read your Bible, boys and girls. Jesus likes educated people. That's my take on it.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                          @ Reverend Green:

                          Unfortunately the link to the threat you gave me, didn't work, but I looked around here and I found out what its content may be like.
                          The reasons you give are acceptable, I see you are against things that are really not good.
                          But for example, what, if there was one among yours who rape cats, abuse little boys or so on? Would this also mean that everybody of your LBC is the same bad?

                          Okay, the fact about Mary can't be discussed. You don't pray to here, catholics do pray to her. This is a difference and this will stay a difference. But catholics don't pray to Mary like to God or Jesus. Catholics pray to Mary that she prays to Jesus because she is his mother and therefor has a better connection to him than normal peophle have. Is this alrady like worhiping the devil?
                          Now I'm convinced and I found my way back to God. Praise the Lord!

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                          • #88
                            Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                            Originally posted by C. Van Friedhoven View Post
                            Dear Victory,
                            I'm glad that at least one person here talks to me in a serious way. Thank's for that!
                            Looking the way you do, I really don't see why anyone on these forums SHOULD take you seriously. Goths are nothing more than self-obsessed pathetic little crybabies and, in my opinion, are the lowest form of human trash that has ever crawled upon this good clean earth. 'Garbage people' is what I call them, and I can assure you that is what they are.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                              Originally posted by C. Van Friedhoven View Post
                              @ Reverend Green:
                              Unfortunately the link to the threat you gave me, didn't work,
                              Look for the thread entitled "Why Roman Catholic Papists Are NOT Christians" in the 'False Religions and Cults' Forum.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Interview with the EX Vampire! (AKA. Ask an Ex-Goth)

                                Sad, sad.... really....
                                It's impossible to take me seriously just because of my look which you actually don't even really know. You have two little pictures here which are not enough for being representing.
                                But even tough,
                                I'm different that other people and that makes me special. People who are different and not the way other peophle want them to be, are much more intelligent and self reflected.

                                Of couse during my every day business I don't look like on my two pictures here, this is just for going out every few weeks.

                                Here you have some images, if you are interested in what I look like. Is that too freaky? Is looking different and nothing but that so wrong?

                                You should take me seriously because I try to give clear arguments, but you only shout at me without any real reason. Think about that.

                                Images:









                                Now I'm convinced and I found my way back to God. Praise the Lord!

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