[By_Reason_Alone]

Re: Athiesm

Friend, you have just been infractionized for insulting Pastor Ezekiel

Did Pastor Ezekiel receive an infraction for insulting someone also?

[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

Did Pastor Ezekiel receive an infraction for insulting someone also?

Of course not, the Pastors are infallible.

[Talitha]

Re: Athiesm

Of course not, the Pastors are infallible.

Your words of Wisdom have startled and delighted me.

There you are Mr Lonely & Unreasonable, a better answer I could not give you.

[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

Your words of Wisdom have startled and delighted me.

One can't visit this forum for as long as I have without having some of your doctrine rub off them, I suppose.

[By_Reason_Alone]

Re: Athiesm

Your words of Wisdom have startled and delighted me.

There you are Mr Lonely & Unreasonable, a better answer I could not give you.

First of all, I am not lonely. Second, if you can prove what a pastor says is true because he/she is a pastor then i will be happy to believe it.

[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

First of all, I am not lonely. Second, if you can prove what a pastor says is true because he/she is a pastor then i will be happy to believe it.

Oh that's easy! You just need to use "Christian Logic" (an oxymoron, I know, but bear with me). You see, the Pastors follow every word in the KJV Bible. And every word in the KJV Bible is right and is completely true/factual. We know this because the Bible tells us so. Thus, anyone following the Word of the Bible is also right. Thus, the Pastors are right. See how easy that was?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Athiesm

Oh that's easy! You just need to use "Christian Logic" (an oxymormon, I know, but bear with me). You see, the Pastors follow every word in the KJV Bible. And every word in the KJV Bible is right and is completely true/factual. We know this because the Bible tells us so. Thus, anyone following the Word of the Bible is also right. Thus, the Pastors are right. See how easy that was?

Praise Jesus! We might make a True Christian™ girl out of you yet, Alllie.

[Unfalsifiable]

Re: Athiesm

I encourage anyone who want to impress Atheism (rather then athiesm, whatever that is, original poster) on anyone here to read the Bible (specifically the KJV for these people) and understand that they believe in everything in it. That will answer almost ALL your questions.

If you want to discuss Christianity effectively you must do it with someone who is not a Christian, basically, an intelligent atheist. (NOT an apathetic vegetable of an agnostic, or a HEATHEN of a liberal (YUCK)) A proper full blown atheist who knows there philosophy and their logic.

Since i've unfortunately in the past dabbled with the stuff, I can tell you the unfalsifiable nature of Christianity makes it logically sound in a circular way (circular reasoning) but no matter how much you study science you cant disprove it or even comfort (much, i suppose, some people can block things out) yourself due to science's inductive (look the word up and understand it and how i've used it before you reply) nature.


And it is interesting you praised Maths earlier. You do realise a true mathematician
has to be a theist? Read some René Decartes. If you don't believe in God giving meaning to your practise, you simply ignore the question of what makes maths hold together, because there is no atheist answer. I haven't explained that well, try good old René. He was a papist though, I believe.

[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

Praise Jesus! We might make a True Christian™ girl out of you yet, Alie.

Yeah, well, just don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

[Regression]

Re: Athiesm

I'll have to disagree with the original poster. Atheism and Faith are NOT equal. How can they be? One doctrine is based on love and the other on critisism. Unfortunately for the beloved, their loving message often turns to hostility when faced with poisoning human side-effects such as "reason". And fortunately for the cynical critics of the cosmos, they almost entirely react completely the opposite way. They welcome argument, they relish in the thought that they may actually be proved wrong. They have realized, since centuries past, that truth is sought not not by hindering diversity but rather encouraging it. Now, as it is, it's unfortunately completely and utterly impossible to engage in any form of "reasonable" debate with a true believer; so in a sense, their love for the truth and message of Christ is ironically PRECISELY what keeps them from seeking and obtaining both.

Well I might be wrong. There might actually be real christian spirit here - a great surging passion for mutual understanding and a drive to accept everyone as they are. There might actually be people here who truly loves all; believers and disbelievers. Poor and rich. Healthy and the sick. The good as well as the bad. However, that is not what this particular church is about. Not judging from what I've seen so far atleast.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Athiesm

Indeed, since the days of the Crusades Christianity has been exemplified as a loving, inclusive religion. As the great Christian theologian R. Rushdoony put it in 1973,

"Peace with God means warfare with the enemies of God. Christ made clear that allegiance to Him meant a sword of division (Matt. 10:34-36). A man must therefore pick his enemies: God or sinful man? If a man is at peace with sinful men, he is at war with God."

In this quotation we see the true and real nature of Christianity. Praise the Lord!

Elsewhere Christian pastors have written that the only result of the warfare against sinful men must be "the blotting out of the enemies of God." The BLOTTING OUT of the enemies of God!

Oh I tell you, writing those words sends chills of righteous Christian love all up and down my spine! For the Lord thy God is a God of FEAR!

But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. Luke 12:5

Yessir! God lets down His holiness and love in the blotting out of His enemies! In the great and wonderful fear that Christ told us to have for His Father! Oh, is not Christian love marvelous beyond all words?

Indeed it is!

~~ OEJ

[slipknot5]

Re: Athiesm

i will admit those reasons are bad but i'm still athiest and i used to be christian. so i have been there and it sucks to be honest. and we're not fools OR liars for believing in what we believe in. you just dont like that people think differently from you. get over yourself. i think god isnt real...and i will give satan a hug for you when i die.

[Brother V]

Re: Athiesm

i will admit those reasons are bad but i'm still athiest and i used to be christian.

Dear friend:

Why do you hate Jesus?

YIC
V

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Athiesm

Also, dear friend, a minor but irritating point: why can't you spell atheist correctly?

As Mister Falsifiable pointed out, you are spelling it wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong!

We wouldn't take seriously a Buddhist who spelled his religion "Buhddism". We would laugh in the face of Zoroastrian who spelled his religion "Zorosatrism". And we would mock a Darwinist who spelled his religion "Dawranism".

Sheesh.

The morality of atheism is built on the foolish concept that people can tell right from wrong. But obviously it takes God's Law to guide people into good and moral behavior, otherwise everyone gets his own ideas and runs around raping sheep and slaughtering Serbs and shooting up on laudanum. It just ain't right unless God says it is right!

~~ OEJ

[iced_tea]

Re: Athiesm

Atheism is a cult like Scientology or Mormonism.

No it's not.

Definitions:

Cult: A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

Atheism: Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

Atheism does not = Cult. Athiesm does not constitute worship and ritual

I am an atheist, I am not a cultist. I do not worship anything.