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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

    #31
    Re: Athiesm

    Originally posted by iced_tea View Post
    No it's not.

    Definitions:

    Cult: A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

    Atheism: Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

    Atheism does not = Cult. Athiesm does not constitute worship and ritual

    I am an atheist, I am not a cultist. I do not worship anything.
    Denying the existence of God is not unbelief but an exercise in self-deception. You may know things, but you cannot account for anything you know. Arguing against God's existence would be on par with arguing against the existence of air, breathing it all the while. You use the universal, immaterial, unchanging laws of logic, mathematics, science, and absolute morality in order to come to rational decisions, but you cannot account for them. These laws are not the only way God has revealed himself to you, but they are sufficient to show the irrationality of your thinking, and expose your guilt for denying Him.

    There is a reason that you deny the existence of God and it has nothing to do with proof. I can show this to you. Do you think that you can continue to deny God because surely somewhere, sometime, a philosopher or scientist will come up with an explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws apart from God?' Did you ever try to come up with an alternate explanation on your own?

    Hoping that an alternate explanation for universal, immaterial, unchanging laws can someday be found apart from God, is a blind leap of faith, or wishful thinking. Isn't it interesting that this is exactly what professed unbelievers accuse Christians of?

    Please examine the real reason why you are running from God. It is my prayer that God will open your eyes and change your heart so that you may be saved from your sin, embraced by His ferocious love, and that you will tithe robustly immediately using the Paypal button at the bottom of this page.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • Wide-Open
      Director of European Evangelical Outreach
      A Shining Example of Christ's Love
      Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
      True Christian™
      • Nov 2007
      • 18449

      #32
      Re: Athiesm

      Originally posted by iced_tea View Post

      I am an atheist, I am not a cultist. I do not worship anything.
      Friend, I don't envy you. What a sad empty life must you lead.

      Genesis 22:5
      And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.
      Psalm 81:10:
      I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
      open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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      • Roberta
        Anti La Leche League Organizer
        True Christian™
        • Jan 2008
        • 1817

        #33
        Re: Athiesm

        Looks to me like you worship white bimbos!

        Come climb my mountains.

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        • iced_tea
          Unsaved trash
          Under Investigation
          • Feb 2008
          • 11

          #34
          Re: Athiesm

          Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
          Friend, I don't envy you. What a sad empty life must you lead.

          Genesis 22:5
          And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.
          Haha. I do not expect, want nor need your envy. My life is not sad and empty. I am happy. However I see what you're getting at. My life may indeed seem unfulfilling. Yet, there are other things I wish to do in my life. I wish to achieve. So I do not see my life as unfulfilling, sad nor empty. I want to go on to gain a PhD, and become a theoretical physist or chemist.

          Just as God fulfills your life, science does mine. Just because I have no being to worship, does not mean I am empty and selfish.

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #35
            Re: Athiesm

            Originally posted by iced_tea View Post
            Haha. I do not expect, want nor need your envy. My life is not sad and empty. I am happy. However I see what you're getting at. My life may indeed seem unfulfilling. Yet, there are other things I wish to do in my life. I wish to achieve. So I do not see my life as unfulfilling, sad nor empty. I want to go on to gain a PhD, and become a theoretical physist or chemist.

            Just as God fulfills your life, science does mine. Just because I have no being to worship, does not mean I am empty and selfish.
            How old are you boy?
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • Brother Temperance
              Senior Usher
              True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
              A very nice young man
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 15621

              #36
              Re: Athiesm

              Originally posted by hockeyfan87 View Post
              Alright, im posting it in here because there is no where else on here that is appropriate, well in all reality this isnt even appropraite seeing as it isn't a religion. But that's not the point. I am here to make the case for Athiesm, please don't try and tell me i am wrong because i could just as easily say the same thing back.
              Yes, but you'd be lying. Like a typical atheist.
              Reason 5) I can't see God, I can't touch God, I can't hear God, why should I believe that 'he' is in charge of my life?
              That's just nonsense. Catholic priests touch little children, but do they believe that they run the universe?
              Reason 8 ) How can you put blind faith into something that is so self contradictory?
              Well, it's a lot easier than coming to a rational, informed decision to agree with something self-contradictory.

              Originally posted by Regression View Post
              I'll have to disagree with the original poster. Atheism and Faith are NOT equal. How can they be? One doctrine is based on love and the other on critisism.

              Well I might be wrong. There might actually be real christian spirit here - a great surging passion for mutual understanding and a drive to accept everyone as they are. There might actually be people here who truly loves all.
              You don't seem very loving to us. Did you know that anarchists are all violent terrorists who hate God?
              Originally posted by One-eyed Jack View Post
              We wouldn't take seriously a Buddhist who spelled his religion "Buhddism".
              To be fair, I can't imagine any circumstances in which I would ever take someone who worshipped a fat chink seriously.
              Originally posted by iced_tea View Post
              Atheism does not = Cult. Athiesm does not constitute worship and ritual

              I am an atheist, I am not a cultist. I do not worship anything.
              What about monkeys?
              Originally posted by iced_tea View Post
              Haha. I do not expect, want nor need your envy. My life is not sad and empty. I am happy. However I see what you're getting at. My life may indeed seem unfulfilling. Yet, there are other things I wish to do in my life. I wish to achieve. So I do not see my life as unfulfilling, sad nor empty. I want to go on to gain a PhD, and become a theoretical physist or chemist.
              Have you ever considered that there might be more to life than cooking crystal meth? And don't just say "yes, I also want to cook MDMA"!
              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



              God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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