[Adillea]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I was raised by my father, who is a full fledged christian mind you, to fully accept everybody, no matter their skin tone, no matter their attitude, and no matter their religion...because he's always told me that this is what a true christian should do. A true christian should embrace the world with open arms and help their fellow human being, not insult others religions and bring them down because they have different beliefs...I've even been told this by a pastor.

It's alright that you don't accept different religions because they are "evil" in your eyes...but you don't have to hate the people that are in them. You don't have to tell them that they are going to burn in hell...I mean...after all...think about what Jesus would do if he saw the way that you guys are shunning others. In my own opinion, Jesus didn't want for us to hate on other people just because of their religion and to harshly try to convert them...he wanted us to embrace them...befriend them...and ever so gently try to get to them understand and come towards christianity, am I right?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I was raised by my father, who is a full fledged christian mind you, to fully accept everybody, no matter their skin tone, no matter their attitude, and no matter their religion...because he's always told me that this is what a true christian should do. A true christian should embrace the world with open arms and help their fellow human being, not insult others religions and bring them down because they have different beliefs...I've even been told this by a pastor.

It's alright that you don't accept different religions because they are "evil" in your eyes...but you don't have to hate the people that are in them. You don't have to tell them that they are going to burn in hell...I mean...after all...think about what Jesus would do if he saw the way that you guys are shunning others. In my own opinion, Jesus didn't want for us to hate on other people just because of their religion and to harshly try to convert them...he wanted us to embrace them...befriend them...and ever so gently try to get to them understand and come towards christianity, am I right?

You are wrong. Dead wrong. God hates witches. Your father lied to you.

Take a look at THIS.

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Keep in mind, however, that most of us are well educated. If your religion has been around for a while and has a large enough following, then it is likely that we have already studied your religion in depth.

Also keep in mind, that our religion tells us that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ, and that if you aren't a Christian, then you will be damned to the fiery pits of Hell for all eternity. We aren't gloating about this. We treat this fact with all of the solemnity that it deserves. We will not give up on you until we have saved you from this fate.

How old are you little girl? does your hellbound father know you're in God's favorite forum?

[Adillea]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

You are wrong. Dead wrong. God hates witches. Your father lied to you.

Take a look at THIS.



How old are you little girl? does your hellbound father know you're in God's favorite forum?

Hmm...I suppose that your response would make sense considering how deeply you are into this religion...and that is plenty alright with me. I probably would have said the same thing a few years ago...but now I disagree.

I do have a question for you though...it is said in the bible that god doesn't hate anybody, or so I was taught a short while ago...and so, the thing that comes to my mind is this: Why is it that god can hate a "witch" who is a human being...but not just a normal human being who has sinned immensely?

I'm not trying to offend you or anything like that, so I'm sorry if anything that I say to you seems rude or offensive in any way, shape, or form...I'm just a very curious person >.<

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Hmm...I suppose that your response would make sense considering how deeply you are into this religion...and that is plenty alright with me. I probably would have said the same thing a few years ago...but now I disagree.

I do have a question for you though...it is said in the bible that god doesn't hate anybody, or so I was taught a short while ago...and so, the thing that comes to my mind is this: Why is it that god can hate a "witch" who is a human being...but not just a normal human being who has sinned immensely?

I'm not trying to offend you or anything like that, so I'm sorry if anything that I say to you seems rude or offensive in any way, shape, or form...I'm just a very curious person >.<

Where does it say that God doesn't hate anyone in the Bible? I'm unfamiliar with that verse.

I do know a few that say quite the contrary.

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

How old are you girl? Answer.

[Adillea]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Where does it say that God doesn't hate anyone in the Bible? I'm unfamiliar with that verse.

I do know a few that say quite the contrary.

God doesn't love everybody:



And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...



How old are you girl? Answer.

Hmm...then I suppose that I was lied to by my pastor in Texas...then again...I was only 12. I don't rightfully know why he would say that to me though...nor do I know why the pastor at my christian school would do that O.O

Hmm? I wasn't trying to give you the "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...I don't think that I ever said that O.o I'm sorry if it came across that way >.<

Hmm...well...I suppose that it would be impolite not to answer your question...so I'll tell you. I am 16 years old...why are you wondering, if you don't mind my asking?

Also, I would like to know your age please...it only seems polite that I know yours since you now know mine.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Hmm...then I suppose that I was lied to by my pastor in Texas...then again...I was only 12. I don't rightfully know why he would say that to me though...nor do I know why the pastor at my christian school would do that O.O

Hmm? I wasn't trying to give you the "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...I don't think that I ever said that O.o I'm sorry if it came across that way >.<

Hmm...well...I suppose that it would be impolite not to answer your question...so I'll tell you. I am 16 years old...why are you wondering, if you don't mind my asking?

Also, I would like to know your age please...it only seems polite that I know yours since you now know mine.

I just had a birthday, and my age can be seen in my profile.

Unfortunatly you lied about your age. Come back when you turn 18, if Jesus doesn't kill you first.

[zincaca]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

You are wrong. Dead wrong. God hates witches. Your father lied to you.

Take a look at THIS.



How old are you little girl? does your hellbound father know you're in God's favorite forum?

uhmmm excuse me but my father did not lie to me or my sister...yes adellia is my sister abnd i hapen to kno for a fact that god hates the sin not the sinner...i do not have any scripture to prove it at the moment as i do not have my bible handy...or the scripts memorized.....i kno this for sure because noone on this planet...including u and ur church members..is perfect....and i kno that is states in the bible....once again scripture not avalable....that god hates the sin and not the sinner...let me ask u this if u truely believe that god hates the sinner than where is u house located???? unless u live in a plastic bubble and have never come out and never left the one spot u parked it u have sinned..so i pretty much the point was to tell u that u r a sinner as well....that being said u r saying..well I am saying that god hates u and ur church as well...shall u all live a miserable life in hell......

yes i kno i will go to hell....in ur eyes...i have done many bad things but i have also asked for the lords forgiveness and recieved it....on more than one occasion..

[JennyD]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I was raised by my father, who is a full fledged christian mind you, to fully accept everybody, no matter their skin tone, no matter their attitude, and no matter their religion...because he's always told me that this is what a true christian should do. A true christian should embrace the world with open arms and help their fellow human being, not insult others religions and bring them down because they have different beliefs...I've even been told this by a pastor.

Then you were lied to. Why don't you read the Bible for yourself, instead of letting a "pastor" who only wants to say what you want to hear, so you keep coming back and putting dollars in the plate, spoon-feed you this pabulum?

It's alright that you don't accept different religions because they are "evil" in your eyes...but you don't have to hate the people that are in them. You don't have to tell them that they are going to burn in hell...I mean...after all...think about what Jesus would do if he saw the way that you guys are shunning others. In my own opinion, Jesus didn't want for us to hate on other people just because of their religion and to harshly try to convert them...he wanted us to embrace them...befriend them...and ever so gently try to get to them understand and come towards christianity, am I right?

No. You are wrong.

If we do not tell people that they are going to Hell, we are LYING to them.

Christianity is not "gentle", and God will not be "gentle" when He casts Wiccans, Catholics, Muslims, Atheists, Pastafarians, and anyone else who does not follow ALL of His commandments into eternal torture.

What sort of sick monsters do you want us to be, that we would stand by and let that happen to a fellow human being?

Hmm...I suppose that your response would make sense considering how deeply you are into this religion...

"Deeply into this religion"? Either you ARE Christian, or you are NOT Christian. You either follow EVERYTHING, or you are Hellbound. There is no part-way.

I do have a question for you though...it is said in the bible that god doesn't hate anybody, or so I was taught a short while ago...and so, the thing that comes to my mind is this: Why is it that god can hate a "witch" who is a human being...but not just a normal human being who has sinned immensely?

God hates witches AND all other sorts of sinners. He cannot tolerate sin of any sort.

Who lied to you and said God hates nobody? The Bible says the opposite, quite clearly. Try reading it.

uhmmm excuse me but my father did not lie to me or my sister...yes adellia is my sister abnd i hapen to kno for a fact that god hates the sin not the sinner...i do not have any scripture to prove it at the moment as i do not have my bible handy...

Then look it up. www.biblegateway.com.

i kno that is states in the bible....once again scripture not avalable....that god hates the sin and not the sinner...

Again, look it up. Prove it.

let me ask u this if u truely believe that god hates the sinner than where is u house located???? unless u live in a plastic bubble and have never come out and never left the one spot u parked it u have sinned..so i pretty much the point was to tell u that u r a sinner as well....that being said u r saying..well I am saying that god hates u and ur church as well...shall u all live a miserable life in hell......

Really? But you just said that God hates the sin, not the sinner. Now, you say that God hates us for following His Laws.

Make up your mind, simpleton.

yes i kno i will go to hell....in ur eyes...i have done many bad things but i have also asked for the lords forgiveness and recieved it....on more than one occasion..

Well, at least the first phrase here is correct. You WILL go to Hell.

You see, if you were truly Saved©, you would not continually be asking for forgiveness. You CHOOSE to sin because you love yourself more than you love Jesus. You are not committed to Him, and you will find yourself in Hell as a result.

Have fun, Binaca.

[Godshelper]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Is this church for real?
You are not supposed to cast stones at others...your threats of death to other writers and name-calling are immature and the exact opposite of what God wants.
Your church appears to be more of an occult than a loving, group of people fellowshipping..
Also, it appears that one of your pictures shows you wearing robes and hoods burning a cross...Are you all members of the KKK?
Is this church a cover for one sided, simple minded sect of haters?
I want one of the pastors of the church to read this...and answer me.

Why can't a woman wear a tampon? ....Are the minds of your church leaders that perverted that you see filth and temptation in the simpleness of a cartoon such as Toy Story II and a simple act of a woman trying to keep her period contained with a tampon?
Where in the bible does it say not to where a tampon?
Where in the bible does it say to cast stones and be hateful of others who do not believe?
Jesus loved sinners and his acceptance and non-judgement is what lead the sinners to right path..(Mary Magdalene)
It seems that the Wiccan is closer to the light than your hateful, one sided minds..
I feel sorry for you, because as you think you are closer to the light than anyone else...I see no difference between you and the Satanist with the orgies...at least he has the nerve to be honest with who he is ...because if I am correct, he who casts the stone (such as your church ) is the one behind the scenes doing the most immoral...I would probably guess some of your church goers and church leaders are right now logging in to some pornographic website or at a hotel having an affair, or in a secret gay relationship, or beating a spouse, or some other offense that you so openly speak against.
You are a hateful, hateful group of people, and I feel extremely sorry for you and hope you all find your way...
May God have mercy on your soul, because the rest of us human beings have no patience for your intolerance and hatred.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Is this church for real?
You are not supposed to cast stones at others...your threats of death to other writers and name-calling are immature and the exact opposite of what God wants.
Your church appears to be more of an occult than a loving, group of people fellowshipping..
Also, it appears that one of your pictures shows you wearing robes and hoods burning a cross...Are you all members of the KKK?
Is this church a cover for one sided, simple minded sect of haters?
I want one of the pastors of the church to read this...and answer me.

Why can't a woman wear a tampon? ....Are the minds of your church leaders that perverted that you see filth and temptation in the simpleness of a cartoon such as Toy Story II and a simple act of a woman trying to keep her period contained with a tampon?
Where in the bible does it say not to where a tampon?
Where in the bible does it say to cast stones and be hateful of others who do not believe?
Jesus loved sinners and his acceptance and non-judgement is what lead the sinners to right path..(Mary Magdalene)
It seems that the Wiccan is closer to the light than your hateful, one sided minds..
I feel sorry for you, because as you think you are closer to the light than anyone else...I see no difference between you and the Satanist with the orgies...at least he has the nerve to be honest with who he is ...because if I am correct, he who casts the stone (such as your church ) is the one behind the scenes doing the most immoral...I would probably guess some of your church goers and church leaders are right now logging in to some pornographic website or at a hotel having an affair, or in a secret gay relationship, or beating a spouse, or some other offense that you so openly speak against.
You are a hateful, hateful group of people, and I feel extremely sorry for you and hope you all find your way...
May God have mercy on your soul, because the rest of us human beings have no patience for your intolerance and hatred.

We follow the Holy Bible, word for word. What do you follow? Karl Marx? Anton LeVay? Satan maybe?

The Bible tells us that we are to judge unsaved scum like you. Carrying out God's Will is not hateful in any way. Or are you accusing God of being hateful? Just because He temporarily killed His only begotten son, that makes Him an evil God? Is that what you think?

Feel free to quote the scripture we've gotten wrong. In context.

[Godshelper]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Show me where God says to judge everyone...and to cast foul words to others...
You still didn't answer of my questions...

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

We judge to help you to Jesus!

Leviticus 19:15
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Show me where God says to judge everyone...

Leviticus 19:15
In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1 Corinthians 6:2-3
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

[zincaca]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Then you were lied to. Why don't you read the Bible for yourself, instead of letting a "pastor" who only wants to say what you want to hear, so you keep coming back and putting dollars in the plate, spoon-feed you this pabulum?

No. You are wrong.

If we do not tell people that they are going to Hell, we are LYING to them.

Christianity is not "gentle", and God will not be "gentle" when He casts Wiccans, Catholics, Muslims, Atheists, Pastafarians, and anyone else who does not follow ALL of His commandments into eternal torture.

What sort of sick monsters do you want us to be, that we would stand by and let that happen to a fellow human being?

"Deeply into this religion"? Either you ARE Christian, or you are NOT Christian. You either follow EVERYTHING, or you are Hellbound. There is no part-way.

God hates witches AND all other sorts of sinners. He cannot tolerate sin of any sort.

Who lied to you and said God hates nobody? The Bible says the opposite, quite clearly. Try reading it.


Then look it up. www.biblegateway.com.


Again, look it up. Prove it.

Really? But you just said that God hates the sin, not the sinner. Now, you say that God hates us for following His Laws.

Make up your mind, simpleton.


Well, at least the first phrase here is correct. You WILL go to Hell.

You see, if you were truly Saved©, you would not continually be asking for forgiveness. You CHOOSE to sin because you love yourself more than you love Jesus. You are not committed to Him, and you will find yourself in Hell as a result.

Have fun, Binaca.

hmmm....well if i must love him in order to go to heaven them i would rather love myself....u can think about me what u want...but i know i will go to heaven....and at least i know how to have fun...o and i have a question to ask everyone who reads this....if u have the love of god and jesus in your hearts then why is it that you have to put other people down to make yourself feel better..it seems like you and ur church members are trying to prove to the world that if we do not live the way that it states in the bible then we will go to hell...well i CANT WAIT. .....to c u and ur church members standing at the pearly gates waiting to get in and then at the last minuite only to go DOWN....TO HELL....C U THERE..i will b running it

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

hmmm....well if i must love him in order to go to heaven them i would rather love myself....u can think about me what u want...but i know i will go to heaven....and at least i know how to have fun...o and i have a question to ask everyone who reads this....if u have the love of god and jesus in your hearts then why is it that you have to put other people down to make yourself feel better..it seems like you and ur church members are trying to prove to the world that if we do not live the way that it states in the bible then we will go to hell...well i CANT WAIT. .....to c u and ur church members standing at the pearly gates waiting to get in and then at the last minuite only to go DOWN....TO HELL....C U THERE..i will b running it

You might want to take a look at THIS thread before making an even bigger fool out of yourself little girl.

Your idea of "putting people down" and Christ's idea are quite different.

Anyway, enjoy hell. I can't wait to watch you burn and suffer in the lake of fire. Glory!!