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  • Logical
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    #1

    Lets be honest

    Lets be honest here. I had alot of suspicion of my younger brother who is significantly younger, age 17, that he is starting to experience the urge for sex. now he is still a virgin. i had an honest talk with him, he is for a fact still a virgin.

    Now, not to get graphic. but im pretty positive he has looked at pornography, and that he does what many teenagers his age do. you most likely know the word.

    I just came here to clarify some exact points.

    1) If he has sex, sometime here or there or in college. Will he HAVE to marry that exact woman he had sex with. be it, he got seduced, drunk at a party, etc.

    2) From my knowledge of reading the bible, i understand sex as it is blantly stated. Sexual relationship with a women. but i want him to see some written evidence from people from a church that there is no difference between wearing a condom and not wearing a condom. Wearing a condom is still considered Sex. correct? Because i believe it is.

    3) If he gets drunk at a party, which im pretty sure he might because he has been caught by my family drinking at a party and smoking marijuana before. Will that be against him, even though he might or will or will not have knowledge of it.

    thank you very much, i have looked over these forums and seen that there is a large response to questions and very unbias responses. thank you, your saving me alot of trouble. and possibly saving his potential future if you could answer my truthfully
  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    #2
    Re: Lets be honest

    Who are you to come in here demanding "written evidence" of anything?

    What church do you attend? What does your own Pastor have to say about your brother's pervertions? And why aren't you taking care of your own Salvation(r)?
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • Logical
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      #3
      Re: Lets be honest

      Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
      Who are you to come in here demanding "written evidence" of anything?

      What church do you attend? What does your own Pastor have to say about your brother's pervertions? And why aren't you taking care of your own Salvation®?
      Pastor Ezekiel, is it a sin that i am coming here for help that my younger brother is in need of help.

      Does it not say that when we are sick that we have to come to the elders for prayer? Well i feel as if my brother is sick (in a different way) and i came here (to the elders) and as for prayer (advice)

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      • Logical
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        #4
        Re: Lets be honest

        I am sorry if i have offended you or any of the admin's here, and yes i do attend a church but why does that matter at the moment when i feel as if i want to ask a much larger community compared to one man. there is more wisdom in that when you ask many smart minds compared to one smart mind

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        • Pastor Ezekiel
          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
           
          • Sep 2006
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          #5
          Re: Lets be honest

          Originally posted by Logical View Post
          Pastor Ezekiel, is it a sin that i am coming here for help that my younger brother is in need of help.

          Does it not say that when we are sick that we have to come to the elders for prayer? Well i feel as if my brother is sick (in a different way) and i came here (to the elders) and as for prayer (advice)
          First of all, do not insult God by paraphrasing His Holy Word.

          Secondly, you are not a member of Landover Baptist Church. I want the name of your home church and your Pastor's name. I'll give him a call and see what the story really is.

          Lastly, please have enough respect for this forum to use the "Shift" key, which Jesus so thoughtfully provided on each and every computer. We expect all posters to adhere to standard rules of grammar, spelling and punctuation of God's favorite language (American!).

          Thank you.
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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          • Logical
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            Re: Lets be honest

            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
            First of all, do not insult God by paraphrasing His Holy Word.

            Secondly, you are not a member of Landover Baptist Church. I want the name of your home church and your Pastor's name. I'll give him a call and see what the story really is.

            Lastly, please have enough respect for this forum to use the "Shift" key, which Jesus so thoughtfully provided on each and every computer. We expect all posters to adhere to standard rules of grammar, spelling and punctuation of God's favorite language (American!).

            Thank you.
            Really...Last i thought, that Christians should be open to helping anyone in need. You are not only trying to banish me but clearly are not doing the right thing.

            God will punish/curse those who do not bless his holy people, but reward/bless those who bless them. THAT IS NOT A QUOTE THAT IS MY MIND SPEAKING

            All im asking is for you to be a good Samaritan.

            What would Jesus do. If i came to Jesus as a sinner, he would not banish me away as you are trying to do. He obviously would help me and answer my questions, that way i can continue to learn the path to Salvation.

            2nd) i did not quote from the Bible, i did not attach a verse, and it is not a direct quote. So i am using an example added with it. It is only a sin when we add or remove from the Bible. I did not remove or add anything. i simply used an example.

            3rd, i did not make any grammer mistake using the "shift key" only in the opening post, because i was typing what was coming out of my mind, im sorry i did not capitalize. my mistake.

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            • Pastor Ezekiel
              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
               
              • Sep 2006
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              #7
              Re: Lets be honest

              Answer my questions.

              Stop being belligerant.

              Start using your "Shift" key NOW.

              Otherwise you can expect no help.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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              • Logical
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                #8
                Re: Lets be honest

                Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                Answer my questions.

                Stop being belligerant.

                Start using your "Shift" key NOW.

                Otherwise you can expect no help.
                I am not being belligerant.

                I Am Sorry For Not Using The Shift Key, I Do Not Know What You Are Telling Me To Capitalize, I Am Trying However To Capitalize What I Think Should Be Capitalized.

                I am sorry if i have offended you, i truly am. All i ask for for some advice for my brother, honestly is it a sin that i came to your for help? Is it?

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                • Pastor Ezekiel
                  Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                   
                  • Sep 2006
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                  #9
                  Re: Lets be honest

                  Better slow down and pray hard before your next post. It could be your last.

                  Answer my questions, then I will be able to advise you. What church do you attend? What is your pastor's name? What has he advised?
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                  Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                  • Logical
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                    Re: Lets be honest

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    Better slow down and pray hard before your next post. It could be your last.

                    Answer my questions, then I will be able to advise you. What church do you attend? What is your pastor's name? What has he advised?
                    I have attended a church, but i left it. I felt as if their direction was wrong. I do not mean to talk negativity about them, however i felt that their direction is wrong. Their Youth program consisted for reading The Holy Word for 10 minutes and playing youth games for the remainder of the time. and The Pastor had very peculiar Sermons that i did not like. However i did talk to my cousin and he advised me that i should talk to someone who may know more about the subject.

                    Just for a note, i am sorry if i did not use the shift key on a specific word that you wish be capitalized. I truly am, i however feel i used the right grammer. thank you for your patience with me Pastor Ezekiel

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                    • Pastor Ezekiel
                      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                       
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 78555

                      #11
                      Re: Lets be honest

                      Originally posted by Logical View Post
                      I have attended a church, but i left it. I felt as if their direction was wrong. I do not mean to talk negativity about them, however i felt that their direction is wrong. Their Youth program consisted for reading The Holy Word for 10 minutes and playing youth games for the remainder of the time. and The Pastor had very peculiar Sermons that i did not like. However i did talk to my cousin and he advised me that i should talk to someone who may know more about the subject.

                      Just for a note, i am sorry if i did not use the shift key on a specific word that you wish be capitalized. I truly am, i however feel i used the right grammer. thank you for your patience with me Pastor Ezekiel
                      You need to go find every English teacher you ever had and slap them. You haven't the faintest idea about grammar or punctuation, do you.

                      Please tell me the name of your church, and the Pastor's name. Quit stalling.

                      Also, please tell me the subject matter of his sermons that you took such exception to.

                      Lastly, you will correct each of the mistakes I highlighted in your post above. God hates lazy people.
                      Who Will Jesus Damn?

                      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                      • CableGuy5
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                        Re: Lets be honest

                        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                        Lastly, you will correct each of the mistakes I highlighted in your post above. God hates lazy people.
                        Then how would "God" feel about you sitting on a computer wasting your time rather than being productive?

                        Doesn't that count the same as being lazy? Not working?

                        The argument of "Working for the Lord" or whatever you'd think to pull out isn't acceptable.

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                        • Bobby-Joe
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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by CableGuy5 View Post
                          Then how would "God" feel about you sitting on a computer wasting your time rather than being productive?

                          Doesn't that count the same as being lazy? Not working?

                          The argument of "Working for the Lord" or whatever you'd think to pull out isn't acceptable.
                          Who are to judge what God wants friend? I think it is rather presumptive of you to claim to know the mind of God.

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                          • CableGuy5
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                            Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                            Who are to judge what God wants friend? I think it is rather presumptive of you to claim to know the mind of God.
                            That's exactly what all of you here do. I'm just trying to fit in.

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                            • Robert Hutchins
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                              Re: Lets be honest

                              I guess Calvin was right. Some people just can't be Saved.
                              Cling to your guns and religion. "Change" is here.

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