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  • MitzaLizalor
    Completely CRAZY for the Lord
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2010
    • 14291

    #46
    Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

    Originally posted by LotsOfLove View Post
    .....inhale deeply......
    put down the crackie and read this . . . . ok, so now you know:



    ..which means that it's not some heathen philosophical society where the meaninglessness of secular existence is discussed.

    You wrote:
    i hope you respect that i feel that child beating is wrong
    Of course I don't respect your "feelings" - you contradict God's Word and His clear instruction to beat children severely:

    PROVERBS 23 13-14 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
    Thou shalt beate him with the rod, and shalt deliuer his soule from hell.


    God does not just command that and evapotate: He actually explains which aspect of the beating deals with evil: it is the wounding and the bruising.

    PROVERBS 20 30 The blewnes of a wound cleanseth away euill: so doe stripes the inward parts of the belly.

    God is quite clear. Children should be beaten WITH A ROD to cause WOUNDS and BRUISING. They should not be beaten to death, however. When children are to be killed - for disobedience or sexual impropriety, for example - God's commandment states the method to be used, and it varies according to the circumstances. God has not abandoned us to work these things out for ourselves, based on "feelings" — HE HAS TOLD US WHAT TO DO.

    PRAISE HIM!

    DEUTERONOMY 21 18-19 21 If a man haue a stubborne and rebellious sonne, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that when they haue chastened him, wil not hearken vnto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out vnto the Elders of his citie, and vnto the gate of his place:
    And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that hee die: so shalt thou put euill away from among you, and all Israel shall heare, & feare.


    God is quite clear about the standards He expects from daughters. They must behave themselves, following God's commandments and ready to be handed over once they have been sold.

    Deuteronomy 23 17a There shalbe no whore of the daughters of Israel

    Sexual impropriety is not tolerated, and if discovered (for example when acquired by a husband) the daughter is to be killed.

    DEUTERONOMY 22 20-21 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginitie be not found for the damosel: Then they shall bring out the damosell to the doore of her fathers house, and the men of her city shal stone her with stones that she die, because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her fathers house: so shalt thou put euill away from among you.

    In the case of a priest's daughter however, God commands a different punishment. She still has to be killed - God is absolutely clear on this point - but the method is different.

    LEVITICUS 21 9 And the daughter of any Priest, if she profane her selfe, by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: shee shall be burnt with fire.

    God loves His people, those whom He has called according to His purpose, and does not want these things to happen. That is why He has been so clear in His commandments, explicitly so in the case of daughters. Leviticus 19 29

    There are many other categories of children, infants and even unborn babies whom God commands us to kill. He has told us what to do because without His tendermercies guiding us we would go astray - just as your "feelings" have lead you down a path which directly opposes God's Perfect Love and leads you to Hell.

    I don't know which of the above scripture you cannot understand, but I do know the false "christianity" that has been developed by Satan IS FALSE. People who can't or won't read The Bible seem forever intent on dreaming up their own gobbledygook and trying to shove it down our throats. Gobbledygook like this:

    and that i feel … [gobbledygook deleted] … do you not see what i mean?
    (well yes, we can see what you mean all right: you want us to worship Satan)

    You might like to read this and think about what it means? but instead I reckon you'll be making a 'phone call, picking your old friend and ho! for the deep-breathing exercises

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    • LotsOfLove
      Confirmed Enemy of God
      BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
      • Apr 2011
      • 18

      #47
      Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

      I shall ignore that, or you`ll wish you hadnt said that.

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      • LotsOfLove
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
        • Apr 2011
        • 18

        #48
        Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

        i hope you understand that i did not threten you.

        the term ment i shall ignore that post, or i shall report it since:

        .i found the post insulting
        .i do not like being made out i am stupid
        .the post suggests i smoke cocane, when i dont
        .the post suggests i worship satan.

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        • LotsOfLove
          Confirmed Enemy of God
          BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
          • Apr 2011
          • 18

          #49
          Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

          And i DO NOT smoke cocane
          And i do NOT worship satan.

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          • MisterM
            True Christian™
            True Christian™
            • Mar 2011
            • 1480

            #50
            Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

            Originally posted by LotsOfLove View Post
            And i do NOT worship satan.
            Yes you do. You do it when you rebel against the Bible and the LORD. Bible is written by GOD and your feelings are against the bible. MitzaLizalor, who is one of the most bible knowing woman in this forum, has shown you the Scriptures telling us that beating the kids is not only permitted, it is almost compulsory to keep evil out of the children.

            So when you "feel bad" about that, it is Satan speaking through you. You deny scriptures, you deny GOD:

            2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

            When you deny truth, you lie and Satan is the father of all lies.

            John 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

            And when you lie you therefore worship lies, you worship Satan.
            Romans 1:18 - For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

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            • MitzaLizalor
              Completely CRAZY for the Lord
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2010
              • 14291

              #51
              Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

              I have just done a quick search (of the whole thread):
              1. stupid - 1 occurrence - POST #48
              2. coca - 2 occurrences - POST #48 POST #49

              I also linked to the Socratic Society where philosophical discussion is encouraged (and where Landoverians will be interested to note boy do they ever discuss rubbish).

              This is not a debate forum.






              The lady doth protest
              too much, methinks.

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              • LotsOfLove
                Confirmed Enemy of God
                BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                • Apr 2011
                • 18

                #52
                Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

                I do not worship satan, how dare you! I am insulted by you! I worship god and jesus, and i am not a liar!

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                • Pure_Angel
                  Forum Member
                  Forum Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 294

                  #53
                  Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

                  Originally posted by LotsOfLove View Post
                  I do not worship satan, how dare you! I am insulted by you! I worship God and Jesus, and i am not a liar!
                  Dear LoL, remeber that Sister Mitza is a Forum Member with high reputation. We do not know you yet, so we will assume that you worship Satan. Afterall, you have not praised Jesus once in 16 posts, only questioning the Bible.

                  YIC
                  Elisabeth
                  Proverbs 14:1

                  Every wise woman buildeth her house:
                  but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands.

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                  • A Follower
                    True Christian™
                    True Christian™
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 872

                    #54
                    Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

                    Originally posted by LotsOfLove View Post
                    I do not worship satan, how dare you! I am insulted by you! I worship god and jesus, and i am not a liar!
                    You do not have a Bible, nor have you read one, but you still lecture us on what you feel God's opinions are. Have you ever thought about where your feelings come from?

                    The Bible gives us some tests to see if your feelings come from God, e.g.:
                    Isaiah 8:20
                    To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

                    You do not speak according to the Bible, so the light of God is not in you. The Bible clearly spells out you are not a prophet, you are not even Christian.

                    Next test:
                    Jeremiah 23:14
                    I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness; they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

                    Do you walk in lies? Yes. Do you aid and abet evildoers so they never stop doing evil? Yes.

                    When you refuse to punish and even try to take the right of others to punish their children you reward the evil behaviors of children, and you'll teach them it is okay to be evil. Just look at yourself: you were raised by ungodly parents and you have turned out to be a false prophet, lying about feelings you claim are from God, lying about loving Jesus, trying to destroy the laws of the Bible, and now you in turn try to spread your evil and ungodly ways unto us.

                    I won't even bother running down the other tests because it is obvious you'll fail them all.

                    So now we have established your feelings aren't coming from God, from where do they come? What insidious creature could place these whispers of evil inside you? Think about that.
                    Leviticus 26:15-16
                    And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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                    • MitzaLizalor
                      Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14291

                      #55
                      Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

                      Originally posted by LotsOfLove View Post
                      i would like help being more holy.
                      There are many ways to worship Satan. One very common method is worshipping idols. God is clear that this is a type of whoredom, and removes His Excellent Lovingkindness from those who follow such a path, exposing them to their enemies. God has done that often, in response to the idolatrous whoremongering of heathen fools:

                      EZEKIEL 23
                      29
                      And they shall deale with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leaue thee naked and bare, and the nakednesse of thy whoredomes shall bee discouered, both thy lewdnesse and thy whoredomes.
                      30 I wil doe these things vnto thee, because thou hast gone a whoring after the heathen, and because thou art polluted with their idoles.

                      ©1611

                      Catholics present an obvious example of idol worship. However modern philosophies also endorse a perspective which - through fornication, luxury and masturbation - are similarly in breach of God's Word, and just as much idolators as any Catholic.

                      COLOSSIANS 3
                      5
                      Mortifie therefore your members which are vpon the earth: fornication, vncleannesse, inordinate affection, euill concupiscence, and couetousnesse, which is idolatrie:
                      6 For which things sake, the wrath of God commeth on the children of disobedience,
                      7 In the which yee also walked sometime, when ye liued in them.
                      8 But now you also put off all these, anger, wrath, malice, blasphemie, filthy communication out of your mouth.
                      9 Lie not one to another, seeing that yee haue put off the old man with his deedes:
                      10 And haue put on the new man, which is renued in knowledge, after the image of him that created him,

                      ©1611

                      In order to accept God's Perfect Love - to become new in Him - it is first necessary to turn our back on self, on our "feelings" and accept that we are unable to comprehend perfection, in our fallen state.

                      That is why we have The Bible, to show us how to behave - because without it, we would go astray. Psalm 106:39

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                      • LotsOfLove
                        Confirmed Enemy of God
                        BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 18

                        #56
                        Re: Godly Parents Suffering Persecution for Child Discipline!

                        @ a follower

                        I would just like to point out that you have no right to badmouth my family! You have no right to say i am i liar since you do not know me! and not in any which way shape or form can you EVER say i worship satan!

                        At MitzaLisalor

                        Thats good advice, thank you :]

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