[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

This is the last time I will ever post on this site

I am glad to hear that. It's unfortunate you didn't think about that 4 messages ago.

[schmelison]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

This is the last time I will ever post on this site because it is clear that there is no getting through to any of you. I get it - faith is absolutely the be all and end all of your decisions, your views, your actions. But faith is not knowledge, and you would be wise to separate the two.

But hey, if the way you behave and the beliefs you hold keep your conscience absolutely clear then there is nothing I can do to change your mind. But do not think for a second that just because you've rigorously read the doctrine and the tenants of faith, that you are completely infallible in your interpretation of scripture. Because you are not. You do not have access to the mind of God because you are interpreting words written by MAN, maybe with divine inspiration but by MAN nonetheless.

Um, and about that part where your slave, I mean 'wife' can leave you, is that not against your beliefs?!

You are not true Christians. You are absolute fundamentalists.

All I can say is thank God I'm an atheist (and yes, that's supposed to be ironic ) because I cannot see any joy in your endless preaching, but only a constant search for flaws in others.

[John Creeser]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Listen, none of you could claim to have direct access to the mind of God so you therefore cannot claim that you know exactly the way in which He wants you to behave.

Hi Alison - you seem to be confusing us with fluffy delusional Christians, we are True Christians and as for your above comment, the KJV1611 IS the mind of GOD.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

There you have it, if you have ever read the Bible you would know this.

You can pick and choose different verses from the Bible to support your outrageous theories regarding women as the weaker sex....

The Bible is crystal clear about the role of women - who am I, or you, to question Gods will?

1st Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1st Timothy 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1st Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1st Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1st Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1st Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1st Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Again, this is spelled out clearly in the Bible. Also, we do not pick and choose. We follow the entire Bible, and to the letter as commanded by God.


Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

This doesn't mean I am a woman hater, far from it - I love my wife and my mother. They have absolutely no problem knowing their place. My wife works hard to keep my house in order; the cooking, the cleaning and homeschooling my two boys. It's a lot of work but it *is* her job as mine is to provide for them. I don't see why this is upsetting to you - my wife can leave anytime she wants, it's not like I have her tied up in the prayer closet.

Look, I'm not out there spreading the AID, selling drugs, mugging folks - I work a decent job, pay my taxes and on Saturday nights my family and I sit around the campfire singing hymns of praise.

Everything we believe that you are persecuting us for can be backed up with scripture - we would dare not do anything God wouldn't approve of (as written in the KJV1611).

[schmelison]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

I couldn't read all of your hateful post, but I wanted to address this:



You do realize leprechauns are imaginary right?

Em..... and the Moomins are not? That bit about the leprechauns was supposed to be sarcastic. And call my post hateful if you must to clear your conscience, but I was merely addressing the overwhelming hatred that was perpetuated on this forum regarding different cultures etc.

Listen, none of you could claim to have direct access to the mind of God so you therefore cannot claim that you know exactly the way in which He wants you to behave. You can pick and choose different verses from the Bible to support your outrageous theories regarding women as the weaker sex, regarding America as the promised land (because despite the fact that the Bible is the absolute word of God according to you, yet God's promised land has apparently 'changed', most likely to support your radical claims), regarding different cultures that must be treated with extreme caution etc. - but you are missing the overall message of the Bible and that is to LOVE thy neighbour, regardless of their creed or colour, and to be TOLERANT towards those who are differ from you and your views. What ever happened to turning the other cheek in the face of violence? Jesus was persecuted because he preached a message that was different than the mindset of the time. You are persecuting people for exactly the same reason. I would call that hypocritical.

I understand it's a bit much of me to ask you to learn from others with a different perspective than yours, but I hope that you can at least show some tolerance towards them. And that includes NOT insulting their heritage like oh so many of you have done on this forum.

Alison

[MisterM]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

another has referred to women as being of inferiority to men

Girl, it is what Bible says. If you are Christian, you follow the Bible to the letter. You are just made to serve man.

that the USA is the chosen land and Americans being the chosen people, regardless of what the Old Testament had to say about that

Old testament is valid in many cases but God's chosen country has change many times, like after joos killed Jesus. By the way, did you even know that Alabama is mentioned in the Bible...

and the clear racist tripe you try to perpetuate onto others. Jesus was not American - you know that right? He most likely wasn't even white. Yet you have such a complete disrespect for other nations, despite the fact that you worship one who comes from another nation. I think that is quite hypocritical of you.

Clear your filthy mouth girl. We are NOT RACIST

Also, this whole 'Japanese being punished by God vis-a-vis the Earthquake because they idolised Moomins' - I mean, do you actually realise what you are saying?! That the Japanese nation AS A WHOLE was punished because the Moomins are popular there?

Are you just plain stupid? Have you read japan threads at all? Moomins are just tip of the iceberg. Have you ever heard of anime, manga, bukkage, tentacle po** or Pearl Harbor?

exactly what you are - completely narrow-minded and unopened towards the possibility of learning something from somewhere else except the Bible (which Jesus, nor God, didn't even write but merely men, centuries later, who are not divine and do not know divine word as you would believe!!!!!)

Bible is written by GOD. Those men doing actual writing are just tools GOD used. And Bible is only book you really need to read if you want salvation.

It's people like you that make everyone laugh at religion as being some sort of a joke. Heck, I'm even laughing at you.

Laugh as much you like, you just prove our point. Lets see how much you laugh when you burn in hell

, thinking (judging - which is God and only God's job, right?)

Here we go again... Why don't you read the Bible? It in fact says that we MUST judge.

Without knowledge, you're suppressing people from chosing whatever path they're meant to.

All the knowledge worth to know is in the Bible, only path to choose is there. All other paths lead to hell.

[John Creeser]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

I couldn't read all of your hateful post, but I wanted to address this:

Alison [From Ireland, so that means I'm a leprechaun, right? A gateway to the underworld? A pagan? Or maybe even an eskimo?! You guys crack me up)

You do realize leprechauns are imaginary right?

[schmelison]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Why would we delete your comment?

If nothing else, it is an example of what liberal permissiveness and atheism has wrought on our young people.

You believe that it's okay for people to choose their own path and be whatever they want to be, without regard to what GOD wants of us. Why?

Do you not understand that there is only one way to get to Heaven?

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. -Matthew 7:14

Where you see diversity, we see danger.

Where you see love, we see perversion.

Where you see education, we see deception.

How can you be happy living with such a twisted mindset?

We are looking at the world from very different perspective, and unfortunately for you, yours is satanic and evil.


20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


21Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!


22Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:


23Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!


24Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

-Isaiah 5:20 - 24

When GOD finally gets fed up with people taking your advice and romping about doing whatever they please, He smites them. Then you wonder why we say we told you so.

I will pray for you to see the error of your ways!

Well, I pray for all of you who are paranoid of people who are different from you, thinking (judging - which is God and only God's job, right?) they're evil before you give them a chance to speak. Where I see diversity, you see danger? You worship a man that came from a completely different world and different culture than you're from, how diverse can you get? Where I see education, you see deception? Do you not try to teach others about your perspective, try to pave the way for their own salvation or whatever? Is that not education? Knowledge is power. I bet even your God knows that. Without knowledge, you're suppressing people from chosing whatever path they're meant to.

I hope for you to one day awake and realise (probably with regret)that you're wasting your short life by not learning from those with a different perspective, and existing only within the narrow-mindedness of your own culture.

I appreciate your prayers, but I wouldn't bother. I'd rather be damned than live the life you do.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

What absolute tottle. Are you implying that the Finntards have gone so far as to incorporate this Moomin nonsense into their idea of Easter? What do they know about Easter? Easter is about Jesus, not stuffing bastard children full of low quality chocolate and salted licorice.

Salted licorice?

Do Scandinavians salt everything? An average family must go through a pound a day.

[Bob4God]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

There's so much hatred on this forum, I find it quite upsetting to comprehend that all of this is what you so-called Christians believe. The Moomins being concumbines of Satan is quite entertaining, but the fact that a numerous amount of times, one of you or another has referred to women as being of inferiority to men, that the USA is the chosen land and Americans being the chosen people, regardless of what the Old Testament had to say about that, and just the absolute disregard you've shown for other cultures, historical FACTS about these cultures (e.g. that eskimos are not natives of Scandinavia, which many of you do not seem to understand), and the clear racist tripe you try to perpetuate onto others. Jesus was not American - you know that right? He most likely wasn't even white. Yet you have such a complete disrespect for other nations, despite the fact that you worship one who comes from another nation. I think that is quite hypocritical of you.

Also, this whole 'Japanese being punished by God vis-a-vis the Earthquake because they idolised Moomins' - I mean, do you actually realise what you are saying?! That the Japanese nation AS A WHOLE was punished because the Moomins are popular there? Futhermore, do you not see the amount of, what you would term as heathanistic garbage produced by America, the biggest contributor to pop culture for the last 50 odd years or so? Yet you blame a cartoon, let me emphasise that, a CARTOON produced in Finland for appealing to satanic worship or whatever?

I know this post will be deleted, or used as ammunition to further convey your fundamentalist, racist and totalitarian views, but I had to try. I have a conscience, unlike many of you brainwashed poor fellows - yes, I pity you. And deleting this comment will further prove my point that that is exactly what you are - completely narrow-minded and unopened towards the possibility of learning something from somewhere else except the Bible (which Jesus, nor God, didn't even write but merely men, centuries later, who are not divine and do not know divine word as you would believe!!!!!) It's people like you that make everyone laugh at religion as being some sort of a joke. Heck, I'm even laughing at you.

I would finally like to end this point by stating that if you find the Moomins so offensive to your Christian values, then you are absolutely weak, and YOUR God does not accept weakness.

"Glad to provide a more correct view"

Alison [From Ireland, so that means I'm a leprechaun, right? A gateway to the underworld? A pagan? Or maybe even an eskimo?! You guys crack me up)

Why would we delete your comment?

If nothing else, it is an example of what liberal permissiveness and atheism has wrought on our young people.

You believe that it's okay for people to choose their own path and be whatever they want to be, without regard to what GOD wants of us. Why?

Do you not understand that there is only one way to get to Heaven?

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. -Matthew 7:14

Where you see diversity, we see danger.

Where you see love, we see perversion.

Where you see education, we see deception.

How can you be happy living with such a twisted mindset?

We are looking at the world from very different perspective, and unfortunately for you, yours is satanic and evil.


20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


21Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!


22Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:


23Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!


24Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

-Isaiah 5:20 - 24

When GOD finally gets fed up with people taking your advice and romping about doing whatever they please, He smites them. Then you wonder why we say we told you so.

I will pray for you to see the error of your ways!

[schmelison]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

There's so much hatred on this forum, I find it quite upsetting to comprehend that all of this is what you so-called Christians believe. The Moomins being concumbines of Satan is quite entertaining, but the fact that a numerous amount of times, one of you or another has referred to women as being of inferiority to men, that the USA is the chosen land and Americans being the chosen people, regardless of what the Old Testament had to say about that, and just the absolute disregard you've shown for other cultures, historical FACTS about these cultures (e.g. that eskimos are not natives of Scandinavia, which many of you do not seem to understand), and the clear racist tripe you try to perpetuate onto others. Jesus was not American - you know that right? He most likely wasn't even white. Yet you have such a complete disrespect for other nations, despite the fact that you worship one who comes from another nation. I think that is quite hypocritical of you.

Also, this whole 'Japanese being punished by God vis-a-vis the Earthquake because they idolised Moomins' - I mean, do you actually realise what you are saying?! That the Japanese nation AS A WHOLE was punished because the Moomins are popular there? Futhermore, do you not see the amount of, what you would term as heathanistic garbage produced by America, the biggest contributor to pop culture for the last 50 odd years or so? Yet you blame a cartoon, let me emphasise that, a CARTOON produced in Finland for appealing to satanic worship or whatever?

I know this post will be deleted, or used as ammunition to further convey your fundamentalist, racist and totalitarian views, but I had to try. I have a conscience, unlike many of you brainwashed poor fellows - yes, I pity you. And deleting this comment will further prove my point that that is exactly what you are - completely narrow-minded and unopened towards the possibility of learning something from somewhere else except the Bible (which Jesus, nor God, didn't even write but merely men, centuries later, who are not divine and do not know divine word as you would believe!!!!!) It's people like you that make everyone laugh at religion as being some sort of a joke. Heck, I'm even laughing at you.

I would finally like to end this point by stating that if you find the Moomins so offensive to your Christian values, then you are absolutely weak, and YOUR God does not accept weakness.

"Glad to provide a more correct view"

Alison [From Ireland, so that means I'm a leprechaun, right? A gateway to the underworld? A pagan? Or maybe even an eskimo?! You guys crack me up)

[Two-Dollar Bill]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Have you been in Finland, because there is toxic in the moomin Easter Eggs. You are just extreme satanic activists!!!

What absolute tottle. Are you implying that the Finntards have gone so far as to incorporate this Moomin nonsense into their idea of Easter? What do they know about Easter? Easter is about Jesus, not stuffing bastard children full of low quality chocolate and salted licorice.

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Don't mind him. He is typical Finn: drunk, delusional, problems understanding written text and Lutheran. Beyond salvation.

Have you been in Finland, because there is toxic in the moomin Easter Eggs. You are just extreme satanic activists!!!

Link:

http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/P%C3%A4%C3%A4si%C3%A4ismunan+Muumimamma-lelusta+l%C3%B6ytyi+myrkyllisi%C3%A4+flataatteja/1135265547517

[MisterM]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Right. Now you totally lost it
Go to sleep kid.

Don't mind him. He is typical Finn: drunk, delusional, problems understanding written text and Lutheran. Beyond salvation.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

You had to change the tone also, and you did, but there were something not totally agreeing with me. You had to agree with me, but you were looking how close you had to come. Alphonse was too distant and the others too friendly

Right. Now you totally lost it


Go to sleep kid.

[FinnTrek]

Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

Seriously, stop posting while drunk.



Was this your "satanic" flag?





By the way, this is Pentagon


Was this the part where your "satanic" flag went through?



So what exactly went through and where?

Learn finnish you heathen!, the holy language

You had to change the tone also, and you did, but there were something not totally agreeing with me. You had to agree with me, but you were looking how close you had to come. Alphonse was too distant and the others too friendly