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  • kaljatuoppi
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    • Mar 2011
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    #226
    Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

    Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
    Oh for crying out loud, please pay attention!



    See? That's GOD talking. Not us. So you just confirmed that Moomins are indeed dangerous to our religion.

    Get it now?
    For I have not any love towards any religion (only understanding for the ignorant), I must say that's not a bad thing. My only attempt here was to tell how goodwilling moomins are. And they are. Because of all the crusades and other wars that has been made in the name of god, many people has died (in vain).

    Therefore I must deny all religions for their violence and I wouldn't be too sad if there was no religions at all.

    Why somebody dragged the finnish president into this? Ok, she doesn't belong to any chuch, but that's because she sees the things how church insults the basic civil rights. And guess what, the moomins doesn't! They can't be claimed to be evil creatures.

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    • LifeAndTruth
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      • Mar 2011
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      #227
      Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

      Thank you. Im not one of those who want to banish every single thing that doesnt have the Message of Christ in it but a lot of childrens books are simply dangerous and misleading. I have never heard of these books before but they seem awful and full of lies. How someone can do this to a child I will never understand. Please of you see these books at your mall let the people there know what they are selling to children. Thanks!
      "Then said Jesus, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do ..."--Luke 23:34

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      • Wide-Open
        Director of European Evangelical Outreach
        A Shining Example of Christ's Love
        Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
        True Christian™
        • Nov 2007
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        #228
        Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

        Originally posted by thegroke View Post
        The Moomintrolls doesn't even have reproductive organs (not mentioned anyway), stating that the Moomintroll wasn't borned the old fashioned way.
        Didn't something similar happen with some other guy in your book, or am I wrong?
        This is really getting worse and worse. I am NOT going to discuss The Baby Jesus' Thallywhacker with you.

        Again let's journey back to the part in your book where the guy with the wavy, blond hair surrounds himself with no less than twelve "apprentices".
        Sure, go ahead, now call God a homersexural, why don't you.

        Have a bit of respect, young man.
        Psalm 81:10:
        I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
        open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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        • LifeAndTruth
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          • Mar 2011
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          #229
          Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

          I want to also say that there are many other things "out there" that are as bad as moomins and even worse. Even in school books! My daughter was reading a book about apes that she got from her teacher. Why do they want our children to learn about apes? Humans are not apes, there is no scientific proof of that. I will never understand it. Thanks!
          "Then said Jesus, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do ..."--Luke 23:34

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          • kaljatuoppi
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            • Mar 2011
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            #230
            Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

            And for jack the reborn:

            You are just a basic troller who tries to make baptists look more ignorant as they looked before.

            "Finns, swedes, eskimos ...who cares"

            I think it works.

            Because I'm an atheist and I dont believe the afterlife, it gives me a good chance to live my life as good person. Also that's why I have conscience. I don't believe that every mistake goes away by praying, confessing or by other religious ritual. Every man takes responsibility of hes own actions. I understand if somebody can't and lifts the weight off their shoulders by believeing to something that doesn't exist.

            Thats worst thing that human can do... or think "Kill, rape, rob! Live your life how ever you want! Because if you believe to the Savior and ask for his forgiveness you will be saved to salvation when you die". So Jesus takes away your sins and you are pure. That makes me puke!

            Think about the death rows. There's murderers, rapist and other worst people nowdays. They get the their sins forgived by a priest before execution. And what if they were ever baptised? C'mon.. The heaven is full of bad people. If there was, I didn't even want to go there.

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            • thegroke
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              • Mar 2011
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              #231
              Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

              Dear Wide-Open,

              I have no interest in calling your God a homosexual, I really don't. But it is ridiculous to publish this kind of material without even reading the books. It is shocking that it even is in the Baptist Church's interest to condemn children's books written by one of Finland's most prestigious writers. And sure, we may write what we want for it is our right. But this does contain an important ingredient; truth. Have you studied the books yourself or do you just behave?

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              • Lost Sheep McUinnean
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                • Nov 2009
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                #232
                Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                Originally posted by thegroke View Post
                Dear Wide-Open,

                I have no interest in calling your God a homosexual, I really don't. But it is ridiculous to publish this kind of material without even reading the books. It is shocking that it even is in the Baptist Church's interest to condemn children's books written by one of Finland's most prestigious writers. And sure, we may write what we want for it is our right. But this does contain an important ingredient; truth. Have you studied the books yourself or do you just behave?
                You believe Moomins are REAL?

                Come on! No self-respecting adult believes in fairy tale hermaphrodite blobs for real?

                What's next? You believe in trolls? Pixies?
                Ach, well, so long as you've got your elf I suppose...

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                • I-Hate-Juice
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #233
                  Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                  Originally posted by thegroke View Post
                  Dear Wide-Open,

                  I have no interest in calling your God a homosexual, I really don't. But it is ridiculous to publish this kind of material without even reading the books. It is shocking that it even is in the Baptist Church's interest to condemn children's books written by one of Finland's most prestigious writers. And sure, we may write what we want for it is our right. But this does contain an important ingredient; truth. Have you studied the books yourself or do you just behave?
                  Funny and also sad, how you atheists seem to present valid arguments towards a true religion, but still you lack the common sense to see the paradox in what you utter out. And how dare you even imply such things about God!

                  Have you read the Bible?
                  Have you claimed false things about our true religion?
                  Do we have the same rights as you have?
                  And what is truth? Is truth only reserved to those who neglect to believe in the ultimate truth?

                  You evil sinner you will face Gods wrath when your time comes

                  YiC
                  Paavali
                  Matthew 28:15

                  So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

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                  • Wide-Open
                    Director of European Evangelical Outreach
                    A Shining Example of Christ's Love
                    Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
                    True Christian™
                    • Nov 2007
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                    #234
                    Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                    Originally posted by thegroke View Post
                    Have you studied the books yourself or do you just behave?
                    I hadn't until Brother Alphonse alerted us about this abomination.

                    As a Pastor, I have to read and watch EVERYTHING. How can we condemn, and protect our flock, if we don't read or watch all that filth?

                    It is a dirty and sickening part of the job, but it has to be done.
                    Psalm 81:10:
                    I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                    open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                    • thegroke
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                      • Mar 2011
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                      #235
                      Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                      Originally posted by Lost Sheep McUinnean View Post
                      You believe Moomins are REAL?

                      Come on! No self-respecting adult believes in fairy tale hermaphrodite blobs for real?

                      What's next? You believe in trolls? Pixies?
                      Ach, well, so long as you've got your elf I suppose...
                      You believe your religion is for REAL?

                      Come on! No self-respecting adult believes in fairy tale hermaphrodite blobs for real?

                      Ach, well, so long as you've got your Jesus I suppose...

                      Talking about self-respecting adults whos pondering life's big questions; apparently, all I have to do to get you upset is mentioning that some hippo-like fairytale creatures with hats maybe aren't just as evil as you think they are.

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                      • Wide-Open
                        Director of European Evangelical Outreach
                        A Shining Example of Christ's Love
                        Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
                        True Christian™
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 18449

                        #236
                        Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                        Originally posted by thegroke View Post
                        Talking about self-respecting adults whos pondering life's big questions; apparently, all I have to do to get you upset is mentioning that some hippo-like fairytale creatures with hats maybe aren't just as evil as you think they are.
                        Ehm. We just posted some information for our congregation. Next thing you know, about 100,000 Finns are up in arms about that and come here to call us names.

                        I wonder who's being the adult here.
                        Psalm 81:10:
                        I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                        open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                        • thegroke
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                          • Mar 2011
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                          #237
                          Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                          I can't stand for what 100,000 finns are calling you, and I haven't for all I know been calling you anything. But you are really eager to condemn things or am I wrong?

                          And I DIDN'T questioning Christianity, I used exactly the words he used.

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                          • Wide-Open
                            Director of European Evangelical Outreach
                            A Shining Example of Christ's Love
                            Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
                            True Christian™
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 18449

                            #238
                            Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                            Originally posted by thegroke View Post
                            But you are really eager to condemn things or am I wrong?
                            You are dead wrong. See, we do have feelings. Before I got Saved, I even had homosexural friends. But the Bible is very clear about them, and I have turned them away. I still cry from time to time because a) they will end up in hell and b) they make Jesus cry. If only they would stop their death-style!

                            We at Landover follow the Bible word for word. We are not like all those other liebral churches like the Westboro Baptist Church who even allow WOMEN to preach to the congregation. This is an abomination:

                            1st Corinthians 14:34
                            Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

                            God said it, and that's good enough for me. "Eager" has nothing to do with it.
                            Psalm 81:10:
                            I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                            open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                            • thegroke
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                              #239
                              Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                              Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
                              This is an abomination:

                              1st Corinthians 14:34
                              Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

                              God said it, and that's good enough for me. "Eager" has nothing to do with it.

                              I am with you on that one.

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                              • Talipallo
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                                #240
                                Re: The Moomins – One step away from being Satan's concubine

                                I was just watching some moomin episodes and the moomin pappa and moomin mamma are married, pappa calls mamma his wife. I can only wonder how much more of the points made in the first post are made up...

                                In school we are teached god forgives us for our sins as jeesus suffered for them on the cross. Why would a person condem gays if god himself forgives us for the sins we do?

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