[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

That's just stupid. Just because the Bible says to kill unruly children does not mean it is a moral thing to do.

Would Jesus kill children?

ThinksDesign

Shows how much you know.

2 Kings 2:23-25 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

But it's too much to expect you to know anything about being a Christian the way you carry on.

YIC

[Thinks Design]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Shows how much you know.

2 Kings 2:23-25 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

But it's too much to expect you to know anything about being a Christian the way you carry on.

YIC

Oh har har, calling me gay again very mature. Your and idiot.

ThinksDesign

[Viscous Turdhead]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

So you're OK with people whose beliefs are founded on ignorance and superstition, that cause needless suffering for innocents?

If i was not okay with that, I would be yelling at you for your practices.

So you're fine with the disgusting anti human antics of these numpties, are you?

No, but it is pointless trying to change them.

What could be more ethical than saving one from suffering excruciating, never ending pain for ever and ever and ever?

So if people with mental afflictions don't perform crippling work for the rest of their natural lives, they go to hell?

Well, you're wrong about what Downs Syndrome really is, so you might want to educate yourself before contributing any more to the conversation.

At the risk that this will turn into an argument where all we are saying is your wrong over and over, i will provide some evidence. All people with down syndrome have stunted growth and a large majority of them have abnormal pudgy facial features. These are things that can not be feigned. All people suffering down syndrome have been born with these features, before they have the ability to really decide anything.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

...But it's too much to expect you to know anything about being a Christian the way you carry on.
...

...You're an idiot...

You two dating yet?

[FreeFromBrains]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

You two dating yet?

Now that would be a turn up for the books

[Didymus Much]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

If i was not okay with that, I would be yelling at you for your practices...

What practices would those be? If you think I agree with these people, you're not reading what I write.

...No, but it is pointless trying to change them...

Yeah, what would be the point of trying to achieve a world governed by reason, facts, and logic, instead of Bronze Age superstitions?

...So if people with mental afflictions don't perform crippling work for the rest of their natural lives, they go to hell?...

The Bible says that those with mental afflictions have them due to a lack of faith, and therefore are hellbound no matter what actions they perform.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Never, ever have I seen a retarded baby. They all behave the same. Later in life, when they begin to realize they have choices (be a queer, go full retard, love Jesus) that they change. I blame society for telling people it is ok to be abnormal.
But you do not have to a retard, Visenya. You do not have to be doomed to a life time of short changing people on their Slurpee(c). You can repent your God hating ways and have Jesus engulf your soul.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

No, but it is pointless trying to change them.

Then why are you here, dear? You're obviously not willing to open the Holy Bible and start reading, so you are not interested in what True Christians™ believe. You are therefore, only interested in converting us to your Godless ways. It won't work, dear. We're not interested in buying what you are selling.

So if people with mental afflictions don't perform crippling work for the rest of their natural lives, they go to hell?

I don't know where you get the idea God wants people with mental afflictions to perform crippling work, but the answer to your query is this: People who don't accept Jesus Christ as LORD will go to Hell (John 3:18). People who do accept Jesus Christ as LORD are incapable of sin (1st John 3:6-9), and that includes the retarded things your dear, so-called "Down Syndrome" people do. Clear?

At the risk that this will turn into an argument where all we are saying is your wrong over and over, i will provide some evidence. All people with down syndrome have stunted growth and a large majority of them have abnormal pudgy facial features. These are things that can not be feigned. All people suffering down syndrome have been born with these features, before they have the ability to really decide anything.

Irrelevant. All people with Down Syndrome have rejected the life-saving grace offered by Jesus Christ alone. It matters not what a man looks like on the outside, the LORD looks unto his heart (1 Samuel 16:7).

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I can see JESUS's face at the top of each hump!

SHOUT GLORY!

[Dean MacCannell]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

The purposed allegations of a condition such as Down Syndrome as having been a "lifestyle" choice is utterly demeaning to all of said victims of this diagnosis. Having worked with these individuals personally throughout the years, it disgusts me to see these comments so degrading, and abysmally ignorant in the ability to understand simple genetic code or mutations, yet debasing all knowledge about said topics while attempting to remain legitimate is slightly humorous.

Someone who has never dealt with a science based class since High School, or even early College about a basic understanding of the principles underlying genome analyses has not the slightest clue in what is going on in someones body and should not be permitted to make such assumptions. When you have examined the fundamentals of sequence alignment, phylogenetic analyses, genome annotation, gene prediction, and gene expression data in a field such as Down Syndrome to formulate a reason why this condition is a lifestyle and not a genetically based alteration among altered meiotic recombination, then you may come and debate upon this subject matter.

I hope I have not wasted my time here to argue something in which I do not even know if someone actually believes this theory of lifestyle, or a massive fallacy proclaiming as such just to evoke such retort. Alas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal. G'day~

Dean J. MacCannell, M.D. - Neurogenetics of Pediatric Motor Disorders Research Program and Neuromuscular Electrodiagnostic Laboratory

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

blah blah blah Alas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal. G'day~

Dean J. MacCannell, self-important titles

Friend, that would be the biggest mistake of your life. How about hopping off that high and mighty horse of yours and having a little talk with us? I'll excuse your improper introduction for the moment because I can feel your heart crying out for some divine intervention.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Attila's Wife]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Alas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal.

You should probably read this thread then.

YiC
AW

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

The purposed allegations of a condition such as Down Syndrome as having been a "lifestyle" choice is utterly demeaning to all of said victims of this diagnosis. Having worked with these individuals personally throughout the years, it disgusts me to see these comments so degrading, and abysmally ignorant in the ability to understand simple genetic code or mutations, yet debasing all knowledge about said topics while attempting to remain legitimate is slightly humorous.

Someone who has never dealt with a science based class since High School, or even early College about a basic understanding of the principles underlying genome analyses has not the slightest clue in what is going on in someones body and should not be permitted to make such assumptions. When you have examined the fundamentals of sequence alignment, phylogenetic analyses, genome annotation, gene prediction, and gene expression data in a field such as Down Syndrome to formulate a reason why this condition is a lifestyle and not a genetically based alteration among altered meiotic recombination, then you may come and debate upon this subject matter.

I hope I have not wasted my time here to argue something in which I do not even know if someone actually believes this theory of lifestyle, or a massive fallacy proclaiming as such just to evoke such retort. Alas, I will not be commenting further beyond this as I will have probably forgotten I'd written this after tonight's meal. G'day~

Dean J. MacCannell, M.D. - Neurogenetics of Pediatric Motor Disorders Research Program and Neuromuscular Electrodiagnostic Laboratory

Your pretend righteous indignation is noted, Mr Pretend I'm A Doctor on The Internet, but let's cut to the chase here and focus on the real victim here:



Do you really think it was easy for God to sacrifice Himself to Himself, to "give up the ghost" as they say, for three whole days? Do you think that hanging on the cross, nails in his hands and feet, a crown of thorns on his head, practically naked for everyone to see his holy willy, was a day in the park for him? How would you like it if you had taken on the burden of paying the debt for sin, knowing you could turn all the giggling Jews into toads with the blink of an eye, or even change the whole debt/eternal damnation rule that you made up so long ago, but instead deciding to restrain yourself? Who has that kind of restraint? What mere human could walk away from that without being totally messed up? And you have the audacity to defend the retards who refuse to even acknowledge God's Saving Grace, who refuse to give up their selfish game of Oh Look At Me! I'm So Cute And Always Smiling Like A Human Teddy Bear![/sarcasm] You would do well to look into your own heart, Mr. Throw A Bunch Of Sciency Sounding Words Behind My Name Because I'm Terribly Pompous, and focus on your own sin before defending others.

[Jason the drunk mick]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Your pretend righteous indignation is noted, Mr Pretend I'm A Doctor on The Internet, but let's cut to the chase here and focus on the real victim here:



Do you really think it was easy for God to sacrifice Himself to Himself, to "give up the ghost" as they say, for three whole days? Do you think that hanging on the cross, nails in his hands and feet, a crown of thorns on his head, practically naked for everyone to see his holy willy, was a day in the park for him? How would you like it if you had taken on the burden of paying the debt for sin, knowing you could turn all the giggling Jews into toads with the blink of an eye, or even change the whole debt/eternal damnation rule that you made up so long ago, but instead deciding to restrain yourself? Who has that kind of restraint? What mere human could walk away from that without being totally messed up? And you have the audacity to defend the retards who refuse to even acknowledge God's Saving Grace, who refuse to give up their selfish game of Oh Look At Me! I'm So Cute And Always Smiling Like A Human Teddy Bear![/sarcasm] You would do well to look into your own heart, Mr. Throw A Bunch Of Sciency Sounding Words Behind My Name Because I'm Terribly Pompous, and focus on your own sin before defending others.

Firstly they are scientific words behind her name (not that you would have a clue what any of them mean and she is not being pompous she is sharing her professional opinion.

Secondly IF god was real and all powerful do you not think he could last a few days of pain or make it so that he didnt feel any pain

Thirdly if god had a problem with people with down syndrome do you not think he would do something about it instead of sitting on a cloud watching this argument go back and forth

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Firstly they are scientific words behind her name (not that you would have a clue what any of them mean and she is not being pompous she is sharing her professional opinion.

Friend, no Christian has an 'opinion'. We have the Holy Bible that tells us what to think.

Secondly IF god was real and all powerful do you not think he could last a few days of pain or make it so that he didnt feel any pain

A few days (for a mortal person) to God is a blink of an eye to Him. Furthermore, feeling pain, like feeling good, is merely a sensation and having sensation is pleasant. Are you that much of a cold hearted bastard that feelings are to be denied?

Thirdly if god had a problem with people with down syndrome do you not think he would do something about it instead of sitting on a cloud watching this argument go back and forth

Friend, retards are retarded out of choice, just like queers like rectal penetration. God gave us all free will to do as we please. Just know that if you disobey God, you will suffer an eternity in Hell.