[The lords right hand]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Hey I am new here...

And I referr to what you state earlier, it is a choice of living, then why did you choose it?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Hey I am new here...

And I referr to what you state earlier, it is a choice of living, then why did you choose it?

Who knows why retards do ANYTHING? I mean, obviously they do some of it to irritate Jesus, but really who's to say?

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

For every instance where a person afflicted with down syndrome had their DNA analyzed, it showed that they had an extra copy of the 21st chromosome. This Chromosome is cricial in the development of the central nervous system (the brain and how it tells the body what to do). An extra copy impedes this development leading to the nervous system being slower than normal. Other symptoms of this include partially distorted facial features, the separation of the abdominal muscles and being unusually short. The average male height with Down Syndrome is 5 foot 1.

No matter how much someone wills it, they can't put an extra copy on the 21st Chromosome in their DNA, they can't alter their facial features, they can't separate their muscles, and they can't grow shorter.

Arm yourselves with knowledge, for the night is dark and full of terrors

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

For every instance where a person afflicted with down syndrome had their DNA analyzed, it showed that they had an extra copy of the 21st chromosome. This Chromosome is cricial in the development of the central nervous system (the brain and how it tells the body what to do). An extra copy impedes this development leading to the nervous system being slower than normal. Other symptoms of this include partially distorted facial features, the separation of the abdominal muscles and being unusually short. The average male height with Down Syndrome is 5 foot 1.

No matter how much someone wills it, they can't put an extra copy on the 21st Chromosome in their DNA, they can't alter their facial features, they can't separate their muscles, and they can't grow shorter.

Arm yourselves with knowledge, for the night is dark and full of terrors

Friend, that is about as definitive as stating that every person who does not wipe their butt, has crap on their ass. If people would wipe their ass, there'd be no crap on it. If people stopped acting retarded, there be no extra thing in their jeans.

The night is not full of terrors when you have Jesus embracing you. Only when you are alone and all you can smell is the stench of Satan, is it scary.

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

DNA is an exorbitantly small structure, very delicate, very hard to change without breaking it completely. This structure is in every cell in your body and every single one (barring mutations) is the same. Even modern science is unable to alter the DNA of every single cell in the body (this is why some scientists want stem cell research, it is a way around that obstical). A simple change in behavior is unable to make a change in your DNA.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

DNA is an exorbitantly small structure, very delicate, very hard to change without breaking it completely. This structure is in every cell in your body and every single one (barring mutations) is the same. Even modern science is unable to alter the DNA of every single cell in the body (this is why some scientists want stem cell research, it is a way around that obstical). A simple change in behavior is unable to make a change in your DNA.

Very delicate yet you let retards hold it? No wonder you people have all these problems!
The real answer to to make proper use of Gods gift of Free Will. Follow the Bible. Pray to Him. Not coddle retards.
I miss the days when we'd simply lock these wack jobs up.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

DNA is an exorbitantly small structure

How convenient that your "proof" is so small that no one can actually see it. We rely on the cold hard facts in the Holy Bible here. Please take your DNA fairy tales to one of those gay Hobbit forums.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

You speak as though everyone starts off good and then chooses to be bad. God does not say that at all. However perhaps if you armed yourself with actual knowledge, unhooked the MMORPG and glanced over the thread..

..cricial in the development of the central nervous system (the brain and how it tells the body what to do). An extra copy impedes this development leading to the nervous system being slower than normal. Other symptoms of this include partially distorted facial features, the separation of the abdominal muscles and being unusually short.

..you'd see that your question was answered last year in POST #506.

Also, stop reading the goth poetry.

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

DNA is essential to human life. DNA is the code that your cells use to reproduce. It is kept well and safe inside the cells nucleus so that it can't be broken (though there are a few exceptions).

To Cranky Old Man, DNA is to small to have a photon taken using ordinary light as it is smaller than that particular lights wavelength. Here is a picture of a large clump of DNA rolled together.

And here is a picture of DNA taken with an electron microscope. Electrons, unlike light have very small wavelengths sometimes so they mike the perfect instrument for taking pictures of extremely small things. A nm is 1 billionth of a meter



And Mitza, you did provide some colorful pictures and did explain how damage to the brain can impede its functions, but that is not what down syndrome is.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

DNA is essential to human life. DNA is the code that your cells use to reproduce. It is kept well and safe inside the cells nucleus so that it can't be broken (though there are a few exceptions).

To Cranky Old Man, DNA is to small to have a photon taken using ordinary light as it is smaller than that particular lights wavelength. Here is a picture of a large clump of DNA rolled together.

And here is a picture of DNA taken with an electron microscope. Electrons, unlike light have very small wavelengths sometimes so they mike the perfect instrument for taking pictures of extremely small things. A nm is 1 billionth of a meter



And Mitza, you did provide some colorful pictures and did explain how damage to the brain can impede its functions, but that is not what down syndrome is.

You keep going on about DNA but did you realise that DNA has nothing to do with the soul?

It is the soul that makes us who we are and we have free will so saying DNA dictates the choices we make is like we have no free will and we know we have.

And that is the Good News(c). Through Jesus Christ we can recover from the choices we make and banish Satan from our soul!

2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Think about it.

YIC

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

you did provide some colorful pictures and did explain how damage to the brain can impede its functions, but that is not what down syndrome is.

I did not "explain" anything of the sort. And I specifically addressed exactly the stuff you're regurgitating here. I will repeat it.

When God smites children there are those who'd get out the electron microscope and dream up names for the structures they observed, perhaps notice some irregularities or discuss chromosomes, whatever but none of that means that this wretch had not been smitten by God.

I posted that last August. Can you see how it relates to your comments (probably not, but perhaps someone else will)?

That was not the only example. Here's another one.

In GENESIS 32 we read that Jacob's wrestling partner despaired of daybreak and he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. KJV so in the morning people would be able to see him limping. An x-ray image would show where the joint was smitten, how the tendon had been damaged etc., but none of that would mean that Jacob had not wrestled and prevailed nor would it diminish the magnitude of the smiting. It would be no more necessary to x-ray Jacob's hip to know that to investigate beyond the "Down's" facial expression to know that God had indeed smitten them and in His Inerrant Word we are even informed why.

Can you see a pattern here (no, I know you can't but the principle remains)? When God destroyed the cities of the plain there would be people who might say "No, no, no that's not God smiting cities, that's all the bricks coming apart and the roads melting and brimstone gurgling down from the sky and all fire and stuff" which would not be any sort of revelation to anyone present would it. Those elements would be obvious. The revelation is that all the bricks coming apart and the roads melting and brimstone gurgling down from the sky and all fire and stuff, is sent by God as a punishment.

In the case of a demon possessed person, using x-rays or electron microscopy or taking biopsies or stool samples merely shows, with varying degrees of detail, what the demon is doing to the person. When God blasts descendants, perhaps at the 7th or 9th generation, saying "oh that's mosaicism" or "that's a harlequin baby" is not actually saying anything is it. We can see that. The fact of what God has done in no way diminishes the fact that He has done it. Just as He said He would.

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

To Dr Laurence Niles

You do have free will. This will that you have is kept because you have a normal conscious mind. But how this consciousness works depends entirely on the overall structure of the brain, which is dependent on the DNA which tells the body how to build the brain. Where the soul fits into this model, I do not know, but most people who receive brain injures tend to change in some way when it comes to personality or ability to learn. This would mean that either the souls overall structure and personality is dependent on the structure of the brain, or it has little say in what the body does.

And to MitzaLisator

You did say that, but then you went on explaining about how one person got a dart inserted into their head and how that related to how they were tone deaf after that.

If we did have an x-ray done on Jacob's foot, we could not only determine whats wrong but persisely how to heal him. If say, the bone had a hairline fracture, then he would simply not have to walk on it for a week or two. If it was a normal fracture, he would have to be off it for a month or two. If it was a complete separation, then the bones would have to be reoriented so they grow back together. By taking measurments and observations, we can not stop the damage from having happened, but we can faster and more effectively repair the damage, or to prevent damage in the future. If say a hurricane storm surge over tops the walls of a coastal city, we take measurements to look for how the wall failed. Not because we think we can reverse it, but so that we can build the wall again without the weaknesses that it had before. That is how progress works, that is how we advance.

[FatherDougal]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Though I do not doubt some of these people are choosing to live this way out of laziness, I would point out that the traditional belief in our community was demonic possession. I think too many people in this thread are too quick to rule this out.

In my opinion, the first place to start is an exorcism. If the person survives and still acts like an idiot, then try it a few more times. Should it fail to work, only then am I inclined to think this is a welfare bum looking for a handout.

[Des]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

If exorcism fails, it is obviously a lifestyle choice rather than demonic possession. The fathers of these corrupt children should use God's wisdom and sell the females off as slaves. God put that rule there for a reason, and this would be a pious exercise of His Divine will. As the boy-children are being purposely disrespectful, stoning them is the option of choice. I would advise this not only for the sin of Down syndrome, but for Ass-Burglars as well. Personally, I think these parents have spared the rod far too much.

Glory onto Him.

[Brother-Jon]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

These wicked fools are also trying to convince us that sin is in our blood:

http://news.yahoo.com/test-could-better-detect-down-syndrome-during-pregnancy-115101237.html

Through their deceitful wickedness, they are trying to trick people into defiling their bodies with medical tests to 'find down syndrome'. What a crock of lies cooked up in satan's kitchen!!

Obviously, we know that this is ridiculously impossible!