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  • #736
    Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

    One can say that when they die, their bones can be opened and the marrow harvested. Its also possible to harvest fetal stem cells from other animals. If we can perfect DNA transition, then they might be able to be put into humans.

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    • #737
      Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

      Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
      Down Syndrome is not a lifestyle choice.
      Of course it is. You can read an in depth and Biblically accurate explanation about this HERE.

      In any case, the LORD gave all men free will to choose to accept Jesus as the Christ, raised from the dead to save those who believe (Romans 10:9), or choose to go to Hell for all eternity. All this talk of DNA (which not everyone has faith in anyway) is pointless.
      Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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      • #738
        Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
        Of course it is. You can read an in depth and Biblically accurate explanation about this HERE.
        The link you provided me is just a reiteration of the original post, it contains no scriptural evidence for your argument.

        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
        In any case, the LORD gave all men free will to choose to accept Jesus as the Christ.
        In many cases, people afflicted with down syndrome are christian. It hasn't made their symptoms go away though.

        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
        All this talk of DNA (which not everyone has faith in anyway) is pointless.
        DNA is actually almost universally accepted. In criminal cases, DNA evidence is put above eye witness accounts in importance. Examining peoples DNA has given people the ability to diagnose other genetic predispositions (Alzheimers, cancer) and perhaps lessen their impact.

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        • #739
          Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

          Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
          One can say that when they die, their bones can be opened and the marrow harvested. Its also possible to harvest fetal stem cells from other animals. If we can perfect DNA transition, then they might be able to be put into humans.
          I hardly think making so called monkey men will gain God's approval

          Exodus 22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.

          YIC
          1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

          Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

          Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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          • #740
            Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

            Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
            In many cases, people afflicted with down syndrome are christian. It hasn't made their symptoms go away though.
            Then they aren't really Christian, now are they?



            Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
            DNA is actually almost universally accepted. In criminal cases, DNA evidence is put above eye witness accounts in importance. Examining peoples DNA has given people the ability to diagnose other genetic predispositions (Alzheimers, cancer) and perhaps lessen their impact.
            So too was the theory of Lamarkian evolution, but that didn't make it true.
            Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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            • #741
              Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

              Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
              The link you provided me is just a reiteration of the original post, it contains no scriptural evidence for your argument.
              Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

              People CHOOSE to be fools because they hate learning i.e. lazy.

              YIC
              1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

              Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

              Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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              • #742
                Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                Originally posted by Asshat Turdhead Reincarnate View Post
                ...In many cases, people afflicted with down syndrome are christian. It hasn't made their symptoms go away though...
                The Bible says that God will cure true believers of all their illness, disease, and ailments. If these "christians" have symptoms that do not go away, logic dictates that they are not really Christians.

                James 5:15-16 "15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

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                • #743
                  Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                  At this point we have reached a argumental stalemate. I have explained myself as much as i could and so have you and I have gotten to you core beliefs (scriptural evidence). I will not be able to get you to go against that nor do i want to. I think everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.

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                  • #744
                    Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                    Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                    At this point we have reached a argumental stalemate.
                    Dear, this forum doesn't exist to argue points. It exists to praise Jesus, glorify His Holy Name, and expose the beauty and majesty of the Holy Bible.

                    Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                    I have explained myself as much as i could and so have you and I have gotten to you core beliefs (scriptural evidence). I will not be able to get you to go against that nor do i want to.
                    If you don't want us to go against our core beliefs, why argue against them?

                    Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                    I think everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
                    It doesn't matter what you or I think, dear. It matters only what the LORD thinks. No one else has the power to offer eternal damnation, or eternal salvation, so whatever anyone else thinks is rather irrelevant. Don't you think?

                    Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                    • #745
                      Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                      At that point, I was arguing about the ethical treatment of people who have genetic predispositions (cranky old man proposed labor camps). I was also trying to explain what down syndrome really is (I highly doubt it is specifically mentioned or explained in the bible). But if your religion requires you to not believe in DNA (a fact I had just learned), fine, just keep doing that.

                      One thing I noticed. You might want to rearrange the awards you are displaying, it appears that a gun is pointed at a babies head.

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                      • #746
                        Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                        Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                        ...I think everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
                        So you're OK with people whose beliefs are founded on ignorance and superstition, that cause needless suffering for innocents? You're awesome.

                        Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                        ...You might want to rearrange the awards you are displaying, it appears that a gun is pointed at a baby's head.
                        A very well-behaved baby. Just sayin'.

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                        • #747
                          Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                          Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                          One thing I noticed. You might want to rearrange the awards you are displaying, it appears that a gun is pointed at a babies head.
                          Leviticus 20:18-21 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
                          Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
                          And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
                          And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear,

                          YIC
                          1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                          Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                          Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                          • #748
                            Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                            Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                            At this point we have reached a argumental stalemate. I have explained myself as much as i could and so have you and I have gotten to you core beliefs (scriptural evidence). I will not be able to get you to go against that nor do i want to. I think everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.
                            So you're fine with the disgusting anti human antics of these numpties, are you?

                            Stay classy.

                            A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                            • #749
                              Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                              Originally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View Post
                              Leviticus 20:18-21 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
                              Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
                              And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
                              And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear,

                              YIC
                              That's just stupid. Just because the Bible says to kill unruly children does not mean it is a moral thing to do.

                              Would Jesus kill children?

                              ThinksDesign
                              I whore for Satan

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                              • #750
                                Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                                Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                                At that point, I was arguing about the ethical treatment of people who have genetic predispositions (cranky old man proposed labor camps).
                                What could be more ethical than saving one from suffering excruciating, never ending pain for ever and ever and ever?

                                Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                                I was also trying to explain what down syndrome really is (I highly doubt it is specifically mentioned or explained in the bible). But if your religion requires you to not believe in DNA (a fact I had just learned), fine, just keep doing that.
                                Well, you're wrong about what Downs Syndrome really is, so you might want to educate yourself before contributing any more to the conversation.

                                Originally posted by Visenya Targaryen View Post
                                One thing I noticed. You might want to rearrange the awards you are displaying, it appears that a gun is pointed at a babies head.
                                It can't be helped.
                                Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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