[ilovethesatanicscience]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Bloody answer my questions will you, without deflecting them onto biblical quotes or some comment about anal sex!

and in answer to yours

NO I most certainly do not admit that retardation is a punishment for the crime of anal sex. Why would i possibly of meant that from the quote of mine you highlighted???

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Bloody answer my questions will you, without deflecting them onto biblical quotes or some comment about anal sex!

and in answer to yours

NO I most certainly do not admit that retardation is a punishment for the crime of anal sex. Why would i possibly of meant that from the quote of mine you highlighted???

You keep defending sodomy and trying to act retarded in order to shock us. I tell you now it won't put a dent in my Christian Armor. The word of God tells me that He is the one chiefly offended by the crime of being handicapped.

See Leviticus 21, below:

17 Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
18 For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
19 Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,
20 Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
21 No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.

It stands to reason as well. As I have already explained, given that there is a God who answers prayer, anyone who is accursed must have rejected Him.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

none of the above in ANY way disproves your God! nor denies his exsistance, as i have some friends who are highly academic theologians one of which has just been ordained to serve in his local church , and having studied the biblical text to a level i seriously doubt you could ever achieve, he KNOWS evolution is true and loves to learn about the sciences and the universe! and he says it does not contradict his belief in God! it to him is mearly a way of showing how wonderful God truly is and what he has created!

The Bible explains Creation.

Evolution denies Creation as explained in the Bible.

Therefore, evolutionism denies the truth of God's Word.

If part of the Bible can be wrong, how can any of it be trusted to be true? Ask your friend this.

If the Bible can't be trusted to be true, how can we know God? A "feeling in your heart" could just as easily be Satan's trickery, or your own self feeling what you want to feel. Ask your friend this.

Didymus Much - in your case-oxymormon- ''a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect,'' YES!!! people unlike yourself can be both EDUCATED and have FAITH in god! never mind though God still loves you! haaa

I'm pretty sure Didymus Much, being an atheist, isn't going to have faith in God. And I'm pretty sure he's a person.

and to get back on track as to why i originally posted, Down Syndrome is NOT a life style choice, shame on anybody proper-gating such vileness !

May we assume English is not your first language, friend?

''I explained to him how God had done this to him''

Prove that statement beyond ANY reasonable doubt!

''Retards do not just 'happen''

YES they do.

Please allow me to explain something for you, in a logical manner that you atheists so appreciate.

Our assumptions are that God is all-knowing and all-powerful.

Given these assumptions, God knows that a child is going to be born retarded, and is perfectly able to prevent this from happening.

With me so far?

This means that if a child is born retarded, God has either chosen to inflict retardedness upon the child, or has chosen not to cure the child of retardedness.

Either way, God has decided that the child will be born retarded.

For something to, as you put it, "just happen", one of the following conditions logically must exist:

• God is not all-powerful or not all-knowing, and so isn't much of a God.
• God doesn't care about humans, and so for practical purposes may as well not exist.
• God is evil, and wants to mess with/torment us.
• God does not exist.

Now, all of these contradict the Biblical description of an all-knowing, all-powerful God who loves those who devote themselves to praising Him, both in this life and the next.

So, which is it? As your seminarian friend.

You can apply this model to anything that has happened or will happen. The Batman theater shootings, children dying of starvation in Africa, Jerry Sandusky raping little boys, the Holocaust.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

''God strikes down people often as a punishment for others behavior''

Prove that statement beyond Any reasonable doubt.

Prove it for yourself. Question a dozen familes who have retards in them. Ask them if the mother is filthy whore. At least eleven will say 'Yes'. The 12th most definitely has a father 'on the down low'.

and what sort of system does that anyway??? This would NEVER EVER be allowed within our society EVER, if a father kills someone, why would you send the child to prison? No society would entertain such a rule. Id like to see that in the Justice System, 'no were going to let the farther go free so that he may kill again, but instead we shall let his son serve his time in jail' ......NO.....

and yeah your right, only filthy whores have children with disabilities the lord makes so sick they cant even 'Ask' for forgiveness?? what planet do you live on (dont answer that)

Prove your right, I can physically prove what makes people disabled through medical science and knowledge, all this punishment by God stuff is NOT provable, it is circumstantial. Why your God? how can you prove its not Allah or Rah or any other, why should we 'choose' your God over any other claiming just as much truth as yours.

Your society? Friend, we are Gods children. We are His creations. You are playing God with your comments.
What makes you thin you know better than Him? Can you create an Earth or a Sun? Can you make Man? Can you create a woman from the rib of a man? Can you make all the animals?
Until you can, you need to tone down your boisterous blathering.
Friend, all your 'scientists' do is guess. They make 'theories'. God gives us simple facts in the KJV Bible. Try as you might, for every one of your guesses, God has a simple and clear explanation.
I recall a saying (forgive me if I do not have it right) but it goes something like this: The simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation. It is the complicated ones that are often subterfuge and misdirection.
Think about it friend, the next time someone explains 'Deoxyribonucleic acid'.

[ilovethesatanicscience]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

im not defending anything, I simply oppose your simplistic attitude to those with disabilities.

''As I have already explained, given that there is a God who answers prayer''

Explaining something doesn't make it true! people used to explain the suns movements across the sky as a battle between two lizard gods from Aboriginal Australia. that doesnt make it true.

PROVE what you are saying, PROVE IT!

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

none of the above in ANY way disproves your God! nor denies his exsistance, as i have some friends who are highly academic theologians one of which has just been ordained to serve in his local church , and having studied the biblical text to a level i seriously doubt you could ever achieve, he KNOWS evolution is true and loves to learn about the sciences and the universe! and he says it does not contradict his belief in God! it to him is mearly a way of showing how wonderful God truly is and what he has created!

Oh please ask him to visit Landover and tell us why the Bible is so wrong.

PLEASE!!!

YIC

Jack

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

PROVE what you are saying, PROVE IT!

The burden of proof rests upon he who opposes the Creator of the universe. I am just a humble servant of God. Why should I be required to justify myself, when I am justified by God? You filthy atheists are the ones without a moral compass. Without honor. Without compassion. I am forgiven. Are you?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

im not defending anything, I simply oppose your simplistic attitude to those with disabilities.

''As I have already explained, given that there is a God who answers prayer''

Explaining something doesn't make it true! people used to explain the suns movements across the sky as a battle between two lizard gods from Aboriginal Australia. that doesnt make it true.

PROVE what you are saying, PROVE IT!

Friend, you are confusing me. In one breath you stammer:

Explaining something doesn't make it true!

Then one second later you spit out:

PROVE what you are saying, PROVE IT!

Friend, only God can do both. I cannot.
I can either prove it (like we have, several times already) or we can rant like a child and say little (like you have).
Tell me friend, what will make you happy? God wants you to be happy if you are deserving. We think you are special.

[ilovethesatanicscience]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

One cannot take an Explanation as Proof! why are you confused by this notion? ?

Yeah nice one,,the burden of proof is on me,,,,the burden of proof is on you to prove the expansion theory of the universe and how light is particles of photon...NO OF COURSE ITS NOT, its down to science to prove......man you guys are so backwards??

My friend how has recently graduated and become ordained, would NEVER EVER say the bible is wrong its his WHOLE life!! he raises his children the way of the church too! he has studied the bible to a very high academic level, and has a vastly different approach than you guys have! as do 99% of Christians i know and have met. Ps both of his children are 100% normal and healthy! and he believes he is doing right by god, and he cant think hes doing much wrong if God is allowing him to spread his word in his church, and he has a happy healthy family !

[ilovethesatanicscience]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

my friend who has been ordained and is soon to be a vicar at his local church, also knows evolution to be FACT and also loves physics and all the sciences! He mearly says its like looking into the almighty power of what God created. Which im fine with, atleast hes not that blindsided to FACTS, and this fellow is soon to be a vicar, and has graduated with high class honors in theology and bible studies. Now if a Christian can get that high up into the church as to be Vicar and know about reality and science its obviously not as big a deal as you guys are making out!

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

One cannot take an Explanation as Proof! why are you confused by this notion? ?

Yeah nice one,,the burden of proof is on me,,,,the burden of proof is on you to prove the expansion theory of the universe and how light is particles of photon...NO OF COURSE ITS NOT, its down to science to prove......man you guys are so backwards??

My friend how has recently graduated and become ordained, would NEVER EVER say the bible is wrong its his WHOLE life!! he raises his children the way of the church too! he has studied the bible to a very high academic level, and has a vastly different approach than you guys have! as do 99% of Christians i know and have met. Ps both of his children are 100% normal and healthy! and he believes he is doing right by god, and he cant think hes doing much wrong if God is allowing him to spread his word in his church, and he has a happy healthy family !

So would your friend agree with us that grass existed on Earth before the stars existed?

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.



Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day


YIC

Jack

[ilovethesatanicscience]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

what level in the Christian church are you? other than nobodies in a small religious off shoot of Christianity that rants at people on the internet about being gay, or hellbound ...

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

what level in the Christian church are you? other than nobodies in a small religious off shoot of Christianity that rants at people on the internet about being gay, or hellbound ...

We are the Church that you cannot show to be Biblically wrong unlike your friend's cowardly bastardisation of God's word.

YIC

Jack

[ilovethesatanicscience]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I showed him this website, and he mearly said it saddened him that his brothers had become so lost and that it proves that with religion come fanaticism. You would have to ask him yourself, and that's not going to happen!! but he takes a slightly more academic or should i say adult approach to the story of creation, its more metaphoric than absolute truth.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

I showed him this website, and he mearly said it saddened him that his brothers had become so lost and that it proves that with religion come fanaticism. You would have to ask him yourself, and that's not going to happen!! but he takes a slightly more academic or should i say adult approach to the story of creation, its more metaphoric than absolute truth.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Does your friend think that's bullshit as well!

YIC

Jack