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  • Basilissa
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Missynine View Post
    Knowledge of what is right and wrong is all you need, if my child would have bullied others i would have told it it was wrong to do so and how bad they'd feel
    And you really think that would make any difference in their behavior, sweetie?


    Have you ever been in the presence of small children?

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  • Missynine
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
    So you went from "i will not force my child to do things or like things it does not want" to "Well of course i would Teach it things from right and wrong" in just a few minutes. Clearly you never learned that consistency is the most important part of good parenting. So if your child happens to like torturing small animals and bullying little children you will not force the idea of being nice to people and animals to it? Let me make a prediction here. You will change your mind again and you WILL force your child to behave in a way that you think is good. Slowly you are beginning to understand that raising a child is not a matter of allowing the child to do whatever it wants but that it is hard work and that you need to teach the child proper behavior and proper morals. And, surprise surprise, that is what Proverbs 23:13-14 is all about! It's almost as if God knows what He is doing...
    Knowledge of what is right and wrong is all you need, if my child would have bullied others i would have told it it was wrong to do so and how bad they'd feel i'd Talk to my child Instead of Bullying my child to be good, but let me ask you one question
    Do you really need the promise of heaven and the Threat of Eternal Hellfire For you to be a good person?

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    So you went from "i will not force my child to do things or like things it does not want" to "Well of course i would Teach it things from right and wrong" in just a few minutes. Clearly you never learned that consistency is the most important part of good parenting.
    Originally posted by Missynine View Post
    but i would not force it to like an idea and then force it to praise that idea
    So if your child happens to like torturing small animals and bullying little children you will not force the idea of being nice to people and animals to it? Let me make a prediction here. You will change your mind again and you WILL force your child to behave in a way that you think is good. Slowly you are beginning to understand that raising a child is not a matter of allowing the child to do whatever it wants but that it is hard work and that you need to teach the child proper behavior and proper morals. And, surprise surprise, that is what Proverbs 23:13-14 is all about! It's almost as if God knows what He is doing...

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  • Missynine
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
    So if the child doesn't want to sleep, you let it stay awake? If your child wants to play with fire, you let it? If your child wants to drink poison, you let it? If your child wants to cross a busy road, you let it?

    Then you are a really really bad parent.
    Well of course i would Teach it things from right and wrong, but i would not force it to like an idea and then force it to praise that idea once every week, i would not force it to be someone it isn't, i would not force it be a person that likes the opposite gender if it does not, i would not beat up my child just because it did something wrong
    plus i am only 18, i do not have a child, but i know i'd be a damn good parent once i would have a child

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Missynine View Post
    i will not force my child to do things or like things it does not want
    So if the child doesn't want to sleep, you let it stay awake? If your child wants to play with fire, you let it? If your child wants to drink poison, you let it? If your child wants to cross a busy road, you let it?

    Then you are a really really bad parent.

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  • Missynine
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
    You're looking at this the wrong way. If you spoil the child it will be happy for now but it will hate you forever while burning in Hell. If you discipline the child it might hate you now but it will be eternally grateful to you when it's in Heaven!
    Well I'd rather Enjoy Life until Death rather than regret it in heaven, from wha i have been old heaven doesn't seem fun it just seems like the better Alternitive from eternal torture, and if that is punishment for enjoying the short amount of Life we do have then i and my Child will live that way, but i will not force my child to do things or like things it does not want

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Missynine View Post
    Everything in this is horrible, if you want your children to hate you and everything you do then thats the way to go, but i believe the best way of discipline is Understanding and Forgiveness
    We do understand Sin, dear, and forgiveness is up to the LORD. That's why we take discipline so seriously. Unlike people today who embrace immorality, debauchery and modern psycho-babble, we love our children, and want what's good for them.

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Missynine View Post
    if you want your children to hate you and everything you do then thats the way to go, but i believe the best way of discipline is Understanding and Forgiveness
    You're looking at this the wrong way. If you spoil the child it will be happy for now but it will hate you forever while burning in Hell. If you discipline the child it might hate you now but it will be eternally grateful to you when it's in Heaven!

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  • Missynine
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Everything in this is horrible, if you want your children to hate you and everything you do then thats the way to go, but i believe the best way of discipline is Understanding and Forgiveness

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Godsnotdead316 View Post
    ha ha ha WOW! you guys are obviously insecure do you honestly believe this is right? I'm 19 years old and I'm obviously wiser than the lot of you! you're sons and daughters will HATE you. its actually tragic I love you my brothers and sisters but this is ridiculous to your sons and daughters I say this jesus loves I love you don't give up there is always a way out for those clever enough to find it pray pra pray #godsnotdead #YOLO #notashamed #everyonebelongs
    #Let #me #phrase #this #so #your #stupid #stupid #mind #can #comprehend #it: #YouWillBurnInHell.

    And no, completely ignoring the Bible is not the way to go.
    • Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 23:13-14 and Proverbs 29:15 teach us we have to severely beat our children to prevent them from going to Hell.
    • Proverbs 6:16-19, Hosea 9:15, Matthew 13:41-42 and Deuteronomy 12:31 teach us Jesus does not love everyone.
    • Matthew 12:32 and Mark 3:29 teach us there is not always a way out.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    Originally posted by Godsnotdead316 View Post
    ha ha ha WOW! you guys are obviously insecure do you honestly believe this is right? I'm 19 years old and I'm obviously wiser than the lot of you! you're sons and daughters will HATE you. its actually tragic I love you my brothers and sisters but this is ridiculous to your sons and daughters I say this jesus loves I love you don't give up there is always a way out for those clever enough to find it pray pra pray
    #godsnotdead #YOLO #notashamed #everyonebelongs
    And just who's feelings do you think we ought to consider here, dear? Our children may love us, but Jesus' love alone can Save us from Eternal Damnation!!!




    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
    And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
    He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
    Matthew 10:34-37






    The Gospel Brings Division And Flushes Out Haters

    GLORY!

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  • Godsnotdead316
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    Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

    ha ha ha WOW! you guys are obviously insecure do you honestly believe this is right? I'm 19 years old and I'm obviously wiser than the lot of you! you're sons and daughters will HATE you. its actually tragic I love you my brothers and sisters but this is ridiculous to your sons and daughters I say this jesus loves I love you don't give up there is always a way out for those clever enough to find it pray pra pray
    #godsnotdead #YOLO #notashamed #everyonebelongs

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Originally posted by Paul Tarzan View Post
    All who claim Scripture enables us to abuse others...just know that Satan can twist Scripture to suit his own purpose too. (see Matthew 4:6 and Luke 4:9-11)
    I routinely hear that non-argument from liberal false Christians when shown the Bible passages that contradict their beliefs. They don't explain how those Bible passages have been twisted or even define "twist" beyond "to quote in a manner that is inconvenient to me."

    If any Bible passage that someone didn't like could be dismissed with "Satan can twist Scripture to suit his own purpose," then all discussion of the Bible would come to a screeching halt, and the Bible itself would become useless. Then again, that's what the fluffy bunnies want, isn't it?

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  • Attila's Wife
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    Originally posted by Paul Tarzan View Post
    The six months I took off were spent in prayer and contemplation
    Indeed, our Lord sometimes works in mysterious ways (though as a rule He is perfectly straightforward) and gives sinners the solitary time they need to think and repent their fluffy bunny ways. I am glad that you profited from your time in the correctional facility.

    Originally posted by Paul Tarzan View Post
    However, I decided it was the Lord's will that I continue...and my goal is to win over as many people as I can to Him, however I can!
    It was going so well right up until "however I can". Please, dear, do not confuse your own pathetic delusions, your personal, convenient interpretation of the Bible, with God's Holy Word as set out in the KJV.

    I will pray for you.

    YiC
    AW

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  • Paul Tarzan
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    Originally posted by Attila's Wife View Post
    Hello Mr Tarzan. I see you have only been away from the site for 6 months - we weren't expecting you back so soon. Did the parole board give you time off for good behavior? Well done!

    YiC
    AW
    The six months I took off were spent in prayer and contemplation, wondering whether I should keep this ministry up. However, I decided it was the Lord's will that I continue...and my goal is to win over as many people as I can to Him, however I can!

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