[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Your a sick piffle that uses the bible as an excuse to beat innocent children

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Children are not innocent, at all. I was a hell-bound, screaming, disobeying brat as a child. However, even the worst of children (myself included), can be redeemed. Now, I'm a happy, submissive, quiet wife who obeys her husband in all things. Miracles can happen.

[Didymus Much]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

You're a sick piffle who uses the bible as an excuse to beat innocent children.

Grammar.

[Aidanthesensible]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Your a sick fuck that uses the bible as an excuse to beat innocent children

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

What methods did Jesus use when adults deliberately ripped Him off?

JOHN
2 13-17 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
KJV .. look up . context

A scourge is a fairly simple implement.



It has very few applications.

[Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

NOT EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE WORLD MUST BE DICTATED BY THESE OLD FAIRY TALES! SOMETHING IS NOT OKAY BECAUSE IT IS NOT WRITTEN THERE THAT YOU MUST NOT DO IT! Learn to cast off your brainwashing and think for yourself, retard.

Well, first of all, you are a liar by your username. Even though they are utterly headed to Hell, the Papists have their version filled of lies "Bible". Stop bashing the Bible; instead let's bash it into your thick skull, so you see the beauty and truth of my dear sweet precious Lord Jesus!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

NOT EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE WORLD MUST BE DICTATED etc.

So in your critical model, Mr Hate, how can the origin of your judgemental faculty also be responsible for creation of the universe which contains it?

What enables you say how the world should be dictaded (about anything at all, or not dictated or whatever)? How do you choose between options?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Originally Posted by Basilissa
Would you be so kind to provide Scripture to show that children should not be beaten?

NOT EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE WORLD MUST BE DICTATED BY THESE OLD FAIRY TALES! SOMETHING IS NOT OKAY BECAUSE IT IS NOT WRITTEN THERE THAT YOU MUST NOT DO IT! Learn to cast off your brainwashing and think for yourself, retard.

So, do we take that as meaning that no, you can't? Please explain why we should accept your entirely personal view of what is and is not "OKAY".

And kindly show some respect. You atheist cathlics are big on demanding it, but not so big on delivering it.

[Voice of Papist Hate]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Would you be so kind to provide Scripture to show that children should not be beaten?

NOT EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE WORLD MUST BE DICTATED BY THESE OLD FAIRY TALES! SOMETHING IS NOT OKAY BECAUSE IT IS NOT WRITTEN THERE THAT YOU MUST NOT DO IT! Learn to cast off your brainwashing and think for yourself, retard.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Would you be so kind to provide Scripture to show that children should not be beaten?

Goodness, that would be very helpful. After all, if I find I've been beating my children black and blue as per the LORD's instructions (Proverbs 20:30), and have somehow neglected Scriptural command that compels me to ignore said instructions to beat my children black and blue, then I shall have to confess my sin at once and apologize to my Savior. I sure would hate to offend Him and hurt His divine feelings.

[Basilissa]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

You people disgust me. 1 John 4:18 "there is no fear in love, for perfect love casts out fear." Torture? Humiliation? People like you are the piffleing reason why people hate "fundies". You are disgusting, the lot of you. Whipping babies????? You are sick and twisted. I hope to god you find the ACTUAL truth before you die, or you shall be the goats to whom Jesus says "depart from me, I never knew you."

Would you be so kind to provide Scripture to show that children should not be beaten?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Pastor Bathfire's exposition on the Sermon on the Mount guides me not to engage with this willfully vexatious person, but to respond simply:

“Yeah, whatever, you believe that, you’ve sure convinced me, boy.”

Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

Not that I expect to go to prison for disagreeing with this one.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

You people disgust me. 1 John 4:18 "there is no fear in love, for perfect love casts out fear." Torture? Humiliation? People like you are the piffleing reason why people hate "fundies". You are disgusting, the lot of you. Whipping babies????? You are sick and twisted. I hope to god you find the ACTUAL truth before you die, or you shall be the goats to whom Jesus says "depart from me, I never knew you."

Post the rest of the verse and you'll see it's their own fault.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

P.S. Watch the potty language, please.

[searching_for_truth]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

You people disgust me. 1 John 4:18 "there is no fear in love, for perfect love casts out fear." Torture? Humiliation? People like you are the fucking reason why people hate "fundies". You are disgusting, the lot of you. Whipping babies????? You are sick and twisted. I hope to god you find the ACTUAL truth before you die, or you shall be the goats to whom Jesus says "depart from me, I never knew you."

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The Christian guide to TORTURING your children

Originally Posted by Jemima
"Yes you need to torture your children before the great green candle monster gets them"

Well obviously Jemima had been reading Alfred Jarry, not a recommended source for any Christian. And a good example of where your children can end up if the discipline explicitly spelled out BY GOD in The Bible is neglected. Discipline involving injury. God explains:

Proverbs 20:30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

God is clear that the wound, and its having turned blue, are the result of discipline. God uses the word chastening. Merely using the hand is not sufficient to cause such a benefit and because God loves us He makes sure that we understand.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Hebrews 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

What age group is God talking about here?

Proverbs 23:13-15 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
KJV .. context . cf. Hebrews 12

Nothing about green candles. That comes from Jarry, depraved Frenchman.


. .French source . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . English source

The green candle makes numerous appearances and is even described in a later play. Brimstone is involved. But what of Jarry? An irredeemable alcoholic messed up on chloroform and ether he died young, hating Jesus but choosing to mock Him nevertheless by calling a priest for last rites.

It says here “although he hated christianity, he felt compelled to seek God on his deathbed. A nihilist, he declared: "We won't have destroyed anything unless we destroy the ruins too"…Jarry had taste for absinthe, he lived in a bizarre apartment where each store had been cut horizontally in half to make double the original number of floors…In 1926 [André] Gide wrote: "Everything in Jarry, that strange humbug, smelled of affectation – his face whited with flour, his mechanical speech without intonation, the syllables evenly spaced, and the words made up or distorted."” so obviously demon possessed.

And on opium. This is the origin of the green candle. It is the very antithesis of disctpline.

God knew that and in His love had Jesus whipped for me, although I didn't deserve that gift, whipped raw. Otherwise there could be no remission of sins. It is the injury that is important. That is what grievous means. BLACK'S

Isaiah 53:4-5 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
I PETER 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
KJV .. Isaiah 53 .. I Peter 2

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The information concerning injuries required for discipline to be effective in The New Testament all post-date Jesus' suffering, inflicted on Him by a loving Father because He loves us too. People who flaunt their hatred for Jesus by declaring His Clear Commandment on this subject to constitute torture—people like Alfred Jarry or the Jemima—have nothing in common woth The Bible. If they say they do, they are lying (or haven't read The Bible).

I hope that is helpful.