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[Speakingtruth21]

Hi everyone, i'm new to the forum i doubt that i'll be here for long though but HI!I just happened to find your website when surfing the net and thought it was great,a christian society online. But unfortunately as i digged deeper into your website..especially these forums i began to change my mind.

I am a 14 year old boy, i have come to terms that i am gay. I DO NOT! see it as an illness or a bad thing in anyway! When i started to read i saw that your forum ABUSES gay people and everyone who have different views to your own, in my life i have gone through more than you could imagine. and the 1 thing i have pulled out from all my sorrow is that the only way to learn and become a better person is to listen! As soon as one person on this forum disagrees with you they are removed from the forum and attached a little sticky next to they're name full of abuse, is this the christian way of life? even if my worst enemy stood infront of me and said they wish i would drop dead i would still treat them with good mannors because i can rise above all those petty arguements. Why can you not open your ears to these people who have reached out to you and asked you for 1 second to hear them and consider they're thoughts and feelings on these words. drop your predjudice and Listen even if you do not agree can you not give them the respect they deserve and say politely "no i'm sorry i just don't agree with you" and not slaughter them with hateful words. If they are happy in the life that they lead why should it mattter to you. If you go to your members list, look at the list how many people on that list are banned and how many are members? on the first page! 2nd page.. it follows the same pattern. If this was a debate... logically
all those complainers would prevail. BUT it is not a debate.. and i apreciate your views on Gay people, however i disagree i find them verry offensive and i wish you could portray your views in a much more peaceful way! I am who i am, you can never change me.

OK now call me 100names if u wish... make pathetic jokes about my grammer, study my writing untill you find something to make fun of, post it make yourself feel better for the day! But atleast I can say to YOU i have read your posts, i have thought them over long and hard and im afraid i disagree with you but i respect your views. a 14year year old boy said that to all of you! let's hear what you have to say to me!

[OnYourKnees]

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I'm sorry to say that you've made a very common mistake. You have read this site and fallen into the trap of believing that we are expressing our own views.

You see, we are here to share the Truth of what God says in His Complete, Perfect, and Unchanging Word, the Holy KJV1611 Bible.

God says that homosexuals are to be put to death, and that they will not enter into His Kingdom.

Now, most or all of us have met some very nice homosexual people. That doesn't change God's Word, now does it?

We've met some friendly sluts, and nonbelievers, and adulterers, and liars, and people who covet our asses. None of those people will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, either. That's what God says.

Now, my young friend, perhaps you should give some serious thought to your choices.

After all, God created the universe and the world in 6 days. God created good and evil. God created humans, and God created the Law for humans.

God, being omniscient, knew that humans could not adhere to the Law, so He gave them a sacrifice system. Well, that didn't work so well, as He, in His infinite mercy, drowned all the Earth's inhabitants in the Great Flood (except Noah and family). But, He promised never to drown everybody again. PHEW!

After a time, God grew tired of the sacrifices. So, rather than changing His Law, He decided to come to earth as a human, and sacrifice Himself to Himself to free the imperfect people He created from the unattainable Laws He'd created for them to follow. Follow?

Now, God says in the Bible that ONLY those who follow Jesus can come to God. That means that anyone who isn't a Christian goes to Hell.

Unborn babies? They can't accept Christ because they lack understanding. Hell.

Retards? Same case. Hell.

People in China who never heard of Jesus? Didn't accept Him, Hell.

People who only heard of Jesus from a nutcase on the streetcorner, so didn't accept Him? Hell.

Catholics? Muslims? Jews? Buddhists? Hindus? Nuwaubians? Yoans? Sufis? HELL.

Only those who accept Jesus and then follow ALL of the Bible -- every little bit -- get to go to Heaven. The Bible says so, and God wrote it.

Have you read the Bible yet, friend?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Nancyboy, your argument is with God, not us. If you come prancing into our Godly forum expecting us to offer support for your perverted lifestyle, then you are sadly mistaken. Jesus tells us that homers (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death." Romans 1:31-32

Do you expect us to abandon God and embrace satan like you do? What exactly do you want?

[Illustrator]

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Hi everyone, i'm new to the forum i doubt that i'll be here for long though but HI!I just happened to find your website when surfing the net and thought it was great,a christian society online. But unfortunately as i digged deeper into your website..especially these forums i began to change my mind.

I am a 14 year old boy, i have come to terms that i am gay. I DO NOT! see it as an illness or a bad thing in anyway! When i started to read i saw that your forum ABUSES gay people and everyone who have different views to your own, in my life i have gone through more than you could imagine. and the 1 thing i have pulled out from all my sorrow is that the only way to learn and become a better person is to listen!

I'm glad you're doing well on your path, young man. You may expect I'd say not to listen to these people, but I will say the opposite.

I, like you, speak truth.

One thing these people get right is that you cannot be gay and Christian. Or Jewish, or Muslim. All the Abrahamic religions reject homosexuals as sinners and fornicators. Read their texts; it's clear. Homosexuality is called "an abomination" and the practitioner is "worthy of death".

All Abrahamic religions rely upon your acceptance of someone else's value system, purportedly that of a "personal god" (who has oddly been silent for a couple of thousand years, in marked contrast to his mooning of Moses in centuries gone by), instead of developing your own based upon what helps or harms others and yourself. Once you accept their rule book, you must follow it perfectly, and feel guilt and fear of eternal torture for thinking or acting incorrectly. In this way, free thought and personal growth are prevented, and social control is maintained. Do you see?

I also ask hard questions.

Why do you wish to be part of a religion which focuses its energies upon instilling guilt and loathing for your body, your desires, and your thoughts? Why would you wish to be part of a group which, in its most basic doctrines, hates you? Are you a masochist?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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Why do you wish to be part of a religion which focuses its energies upon instilling guilt and loathing for your body, your desires, and your thoughts? Why would you wish to be part of a group which, in its most basic doctrines, hates you? Are you a masochist?

I agree with these questions.

[OnYourKnees]

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I agree with these questions.

Rachael, I always figured you were a masochist, which is why you kept coming back after being told -- how many times? -- that God orders us not to suffer a witch to live.

But now I see you really want to be Saved, and become a Christian! GLORY!

Perhaps you can lead this young man by example to Jesus!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Rachael, I always figured you were a masochist, which is why you kept coming back after being told -- how many times? -- that God orders us not to suffer a witch to live.

But now I see you really want to be Saved, and become a Christian! GLORY!

Perhaps you can lead this young man by example to Jesus!

I hope that pervert "father" Mo doesn't sniff this one out. Fourteen year old boys are his favorite breakfast.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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That isn't what I meant, OYK. I mean, I agree with the points Illustrator has made by asking these questions. Why does he choose to be part of a religion that sees him as an abomination (the gay young man, not Illustrator)? Is he a masochist??

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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... make pathetic jokes about my grammer, study my writing untill you find something to make fun of, post it make yourself feel better for the day! But atleast I can say to YOU i have read your posts, i have thought them over long and hard and im afraid i disagree with you but i respect your views. a 14year year old boy said that to all of you! let's hear what you have to say to me!

It looks like you are already aware of what is wrong with your grammar. Those little lower case "i" need to be upper case. It is really very simple; with your left pinky hold down the shift key and then type "I" with your right hand. After you practice for a bit it will become automatic and you will never have to worry about it again. It will be more difficult to correct this problem as you get older. We are doing you a favor here in helping to keep you from getting fired from your first job.

Our pastors have put together some very simple rules for not getting banned here. They can be viewed at the following thread:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=2007

If you have read some of our threads and noticed people getting banned, a pattern should emerge that should not be missed to someone of your seeming caliber. You can also visit our therapy unit and observe first hand some of the retards that show up here.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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It looks like you are already aware of what is wrong with your grammar.

Not to mention the fact that in the process of inviting others to point out the failings in his grammar, he consequently misspelled 'grammar'.

[Enobarbus]

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Hi everyone, i'm new to the forum i doubt that i'll be here for long though but HI!I just happened to find your website when surfing the net and thought it was great,a christian society online. But unfortunately as i digged deeper into your website..especially these forums i began to change my mind.

I am a 14 year old boy, i have come to terms that i am gay. I DO NOT! see it as an illness or a bad thing in anyway! When i started to read i saw that your forum ABUSES gay people and everyone who have different views to your own, in my life i have gone through more than you could imagine. and the 1 thing i have pulled out from all my sorrow is that the only way to learn and become a better person is to listen! As soon as one person on this forum disagrees with you they are removed from the forum and attached a little sticky next to they're name full of abuse, is this the christian way of life? even if my worst enemy stood infront of me and said they wish i would drop dead i would still treat them with good mannors because i can rise above all those petty arguements. Why can you not open your ears to these people who have reached out to you and asked you for 1 second to hear them and consider they're thoughts and feelings on these words. drop your predjudice and Listen even if you do not agree can you not give them the respect they deserve and say politely "no i'm sorry i just don't agree with you" and not slaughter them with hateful words. If they are happy in the life that they lead why should it mattter to you. If you go to your members list, look at the list how many people on that list are banned and how many are members? on the first page! 2nd page.. it follows the same pattern. If this was a debate... logically
all those complainers would prevail. BUT it is not a debate.. and i apreciate your views on Gay people, however i disagree i find them verry offensive and i wish you could portray your views in a much more peaceful way! I am who i am, you can never change me.

OK now call me 100names if u wish... make pathetic jokes about my grammer, study my writing untill you find something to make fun of, post it make yourself feel better for the day! But atleast I can say to YOU i have read your posts, i have thought them over long and hard and im afraid i disagree with you but i respect your views. a 14year year old boy said that to all of you! let's hear what you have to say to me!

One thing I want to say to you is that if you are 14 you have come here against the bit in TOS that says you agree that you will not enter the site unless you are 18 or over.

The second point is that it is possible for Gay people who repent and give up the abomination of unnatural affections to be Saved©. But the Bible does make it plain that those who are practising and unrepentant are damned.

[lilith]

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I agree with these questions.

Speaking Truth,it's quite possible to live without an organised religion.
If you're gay,then you're gay. You don't need the approval of an ill informed,narrow minded & mentally stunted group of people.

[Speakingtruth21]

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You don't need the approval of an ill informed,narrow minded & mentally stunted group of people.

I don't want thier aproval i just want them to consider what they're saying before they post hateful words. But i agree with your description

[Speakingtruth21]

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Why do you wish to be part of a religion which focuses its energies upon instilling guilt and loathing for your body, your desires, and your thoughts? Why would you wish to be part of a group which, in its most basic doctrines, hates you? Are you a masochist?

Lol, good question. Well, i don't anymore... i was never really an overly-religious person. was christened when i was a baby but never given a choice. I just stumbled over this site, and was horrified so made a post. ANd low and behold! They did search my post for gramatical errors. I feel so honored for them to have wasted all thier time going through thier dictionarys to seek out my errors. They must love me!

[Speakingtruth21]

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Re Pastor Ezekiel:
I went through your posts and picked out parts and replied to them.

expecting us to offer support

I don't wish for support of you, i wish for you to portray your feelings in a more civilised way rather than become little children calling people petty names
LIKE......

your perverted lifestyle

Nancyboy

Homers

What exactly do you want?

For people like you to start acting your own age!