[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Nothing wrong with saying what you dont know and attempting to find it out.

Ah, so you meant to say that you BELIEVE that God does not exist, not God does not exist. As all monkey-worshipers, you base your belief for non-existence of God in FAITH.

So you really are almost like normal person, you just worship monkeys and are heading straight to hell.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Just by saying "a book told me so" isn't really an argument.
There are lots of books that write about the evolution of man, so what difference do these books have to that of the bible?

A book didn't tell me anything.


GOD tells me everything! Shout GLORY!!

[GodLover1221]

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Guys, I challenge you to look away from the life you've always lived. Don't immediately hate all Atheists, please actually listen to what they have to say.

You don't have to choose Atheism, but you can't just default Christianity. Learn about why people become Atheism, and you may end up like me.

I considered myself a strong Christian. I prayed every night, went to church, and followed the bible. I did whatever I could to follow it's teachings.



After I did some research, and became open for criticism, I let people talk about Christianity, and how it didn't make sense to them. I realized that I felt they were right, so I made a tough decision with my life.


I joined the belief that there is no god. I'm now on the outside, and I can see why you try so hard to defend religion, as I did the same. If you see life outside of religion, you'd realize how it doesn't work out.


I know plenty of Christians will reply to this post saying things like "He never found God, he'll rot in hell," but anyone who posts this is just an idiot for not reading the post. Don't hate me for my beliefs.


Don't be so narrow-minded. Atheism is not evil, and neither is Christianity. Both are just beliefs, and anyone can transfer from one to another if they learn enough about them.


tl;dr: Don't immediately rule out Atheism just because you consider yourself a Christian.

Atheism is all about doing what YOU believe is right: what you know is right, and not what you want to think.

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Live life. Don't hate anyone, step into their shoes. Peace out.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

tl;dr

Why do you pick a screen name like that then state you hate little baby Jesus? So cruel!

[WallsofBabylon]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

As a non-believer, I thought I might take up your argument point by point in a rational manner. My goal is not to bash Christianity, but to reason with it.

1. Being an atheist does not necessitate believing in evolution, though I concede the two are quite compatible. Nihilists, not atheists, disbelieve in morality. I know atheists who, in some cases, set up strong moral boundaries for themselves. The idea that atheists think we should act like animals is ludicrous. Most atheists advocate technology and research, both of which displace us from the animals.

2. I concede that proving God does not exist is impossible. By the same logic, proving that he does is impossible. Anyone trying to do either with certainty is being irrational. I agree with your point that the burden of proof should lie with both parties.

3. I cannot debate that the Bible is always right because it is undebatable. This is not a logical victory for Christianity because anything reasonable must be debatable. This point is built on faith and nothing else.

4. I personally know Atheists who are quite fervid about their atheism. I assure you they do not at all believe in God. Being a former Christian, I myself am an example of a Christian who questioned God's existence. In fact, most atheists I know began as Christians in the first place (I come from a rural, very religious area). I know Christians now who have doubts, though I concede most of those will remain Christian.

4. Atheism is a trademark of communism, not a motivational factor in its establishment. Communist revolutions happen because of class differences and cynical political leaders who prey on the ignorance of the working class. I'm a non-believer and I am a strong capitalist. I view communism as a weak and inferior economic system driven by fear.

5. Because I think of Shiva, Shiva therefore exists, and therefore all Christians are illogical. That statement is pure logical fallacy, as was yours.

6. If the signs were OBVIOUS and UNDENIABLE, then everyone would be a theist and this debate would be non-existent.

7. Anders Behring Brievik.

8. If you would like to donate to atheist charities, *porn link deleted*

9. I concede that atheists and agnostics are more likely to be willing to tolerate those activities, though I know many Christians who have engaged in those activities. If you tried to tell them that it makes them not really Christians, they will tell you that everyone sins.

10. Definition: "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities." You're describing evolution and the origins of the universe. This is like saying that Christianity is the belief that all non-Christians must be violently tortured so as to eradicate the heathens. What I just stated (I was referring to the Spanish Inquisition) was taken out of context with relation to the whole of Christianity, as was your statement with relation to Atheism.

11. You're right, atheists do not believe in miracles. This is most likely because no atheist has seen a supernatural event, only claims by Christians that they have witnessed supernatural events.

12. Atheists cannot explain the origins of the universe. Therefore, Zeus exists. Same logic...

13. This is blatantly fabricated. I would like to see your statistics on this. And what about when nearly all Europeans were Christians? Would you argue that in the Middle Ages, Europe experienced a golden age of health and mental stability? Of course not.

14. Using your argument, I will be on the lookout for any mentally unstable people who are Christians. If I find one, that means that God does not exist (of course it doesn't mean that)

15. Much of Latin and South America are VERY strongly Christian, yet so much violence and death takes place in various places there. The idea that a Christian society is intrinsically moral is false, as we can see from troubled, Christian areas. Also, disbelieving in an afterlife means an atheist does not anticipate death like a Christian does. In fact, you hear from many Christians that they "cannot wait." There have also been Christian suicide cults throughout history.

16. I don't see how Freud's opinion affects anything at all. If there were evil popes( and there were...), is Christianity immoral? That argument doesn't hold water.

17. What about pastors who used greeters and info cards to find out some problems with a specific audience member, and then single them out like it was a divine inspiration? Is that not deceptive?

18. Where did you get that statistic? And atheism is the dis-belief in deitie(s). Evolution is the belief that cells and life forms evolve to create new life. They are not the same thing.

19. This one makes me question whether you are a serious Christian or whether this post is a joke. Christians are superstitious, they always have been. They do not embrace the cold, logical world around them. That sounds more like atheism. And...are you saying that Muslims are atheists because they aren't Christian?

20. Atheism is not on the decline. More and more people are beginning to question religious beliefs. Whether or not you are cautious is irrelevant.

21. There are a larger number of atheist blogs.

22. Most media I watch will portray a Christian family positively, and will downplay a criminal's religious beliefs if they are Christian (unless of course they commit their crime in the name of Christianity). However an atheist who committed a crime will almost surely have his atheism discussed. Most individuals in the media are Christians themselves. If you're trying to use MSNBC as a counterexample, I have to say that is merely one news source out of many.

23. My personal cause for dis-belief stems from rational thought and research on the subject, not from any of those reasons. It seems as though you're simply trying to demonize the other side.

24. What is "good" really depends on who you are, where you are, whom you are among, and when you are. Even Christians interpretations of what is good have changed throughout the centuries. If good is universal, does that mean that only people now who exist in the modern evolution of Christian theology know what actions they should define their life by? If not, then what separates your actions (given guidance of course by the hand of God, because you are saved and all), from a Medieval crusader who slaughtered and pillaged in the name of spreading His word?

25. Once again, I question the legitimacy of the poster. There were scientists before Jesus was born (Greece anyone? China?), and who were not Jewish. Therefore, Christianity does not own a monopoly on science.

26. "The distance is great from the firm belief to the realization from concrete experience." Queen Isabella I of Spain.

27. And?

28. I've found that more often no one wins and both sides think they did.

29. I am living proof that this point is simply untrue. I know many atheists who began as Christians as well.

30. The first thing I learned in statistics class was that there are good statistics and bad statistics. Yours fall in the latter. I never trust polls.

31. So you're saying the Bible is basically incomprehensible.

32. Some atheists do make bad arguments and they make all atheists look stupid. Some christians make bad arguments (like you, frankly), and they make all christians look stupid.

33. Surely you jest? Missionary work is a core tenet of Christianity.

34. I've never met more hard-line atheists than those in philosophy majors. If a Christian would have walked in to a philos club meeting, they would have been torn apart.

35. No, you're blatantly wrong. It is an argument to cope with the fact that some people genuinely do not need a deity to feel worth and happiness. I can see why that would be a difficult idea for a Christian to grasp.

36. The French Revolution had more to do with taxes, class differences, and ideas of freedom than religion.

37. Islam is the world's fastest growing religion. Therefore, it is the right religion. Makes sense, right?

38. Oh....my feelings are hurt.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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nonsense deleted

Do you think because you have numbered your paragraphs that this post is not mere rambling chaos? Obviously the product of a Satanic mind.

I read it and do not see any place where it gets to a point. Some of the paragraphs are sentence fragments with no context.

What is your POINT?

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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As a non-believer, I thought I might take up your argument point by point in a rational manner. My goal is not to bash Christianity, but to reason with it.

Besides the non-believer part, I see no problems here. Bashing Christianity is strictly forbidden here, so I caution you to err on the side of safety!

1. Being an atheist does not necessitate believing in evolution, though I concede the two are quite compatible. Nihilists, not atheists, disbelieve in morality. I know atheists who, in some cases, set up strong moral boundaries for themselves. The idea that atheists think we should act like animals is ludicrous. Most atheists advocate technology and research, both of which displace us from the animals.

I think here you're mostly splitting hairs. Evolutionist, atheist, nihilist -- they're really all the same thing when it boils down to it: people who refuse to accept the basic truths of the Bible. Just one minor thing on my part: to say that atheists advocate technology and research is not totally true. If you've ever seen Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, you'd know that atheists across the country (indeed, the world) have a massive conspiracy against science which contradicts their preconceived notions. I highly recommend you watch it!

2. I concede that proving God does not exist is impossible. By the same logic, proving that he does is impossible. Anyone trying to do either with certainty is being irrational. I agree with your point that the burden of proof should lie with both parties.

I am glad that you have conceded the first point, as that would preclude the very essence of a rational debate. We have high standards here with those we choose to speak with, and hope that you will maintain this high level of discourse! Proving that God exists, however, is not impossible at all. In a court of law, for instance, they allow evidence, and that evidence is used to prove things, and this is important, beyond a reasonable doubt. Now we both know that no one was around 6,000 years ago to witness God creating the world -- by definition that is impossible! However, each and every day we behold evidence of His Creation: the trees, the ocean, lakes, animals, people, etc. They were each designed by Him! This is evidence, the only evidence any reasonable person needs, to prove that the Lord designed and created every living thing!

3. I cannot debate that the Bible is always right because it is undebatable. This is not a logical victory for Christianity because anything reasonable must be debatable. This point is built on faith and nothing else.

I appreciate that you are not willing to take the argument that the Bible is false. Again, you have conceded some of the most important tenets of Christianity, which is a fantastic step! However, I do take slight offense to your deeming it not a victory. Surely it is a victory for Christians the world over. The Bible is indeed the only undebatable Work! Faith is indeed the powerful force that drives Christianity, so belief in the infallibility of the Word, and therefore in God, is truly a victory for all Believers!

4. I personally know Atheists who are quite fervid about their atheism. I assure you they do not at all believe in God. Being a former Christian, I myself am an example of a Christian who questioned God's existence. In fact, most atheists I know began as Christians in the first place (I come from a rural, very religious area). I know Christians now who have doubts, though I concede most of those will remain Christian.

Your friends may have convinced themselves that they do not believe in God, but everything that breathes in creation knows the Creator exists. There are no two ways about it. Romans 1:20 states: "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse." There is not a single person who cannot know that there is a God. It is fairly well known amongst Christians that these deniers are simply afraid of having to answer to a Holy God who won't accept their "lifestyle choices" and are simply acting like petulant children. This is not uncommon.

4. Atheism is a trademark of communism, not a motivational factor in its establishment. Communist revolutions happen because of class differences and cynical political leaders who prey on the ignorance of the working class. I'm a non-believer and I am a strong capitalist. I view communism as a weak and inferior economic system driven by fear.

I will admit that I know very little about Communism, aside from the occasional comment from Rush Limbaugh. I do see that you are at least aware of the evil that Obama is unleashing upon the American People as occupier of the White House. You may be an unbeliever now, but I can see that your views align closely with ours, and therefore I expect to see a conversion coming soon. I will be praying for you!

5. Because I think of Shiva, Shiva therefore exists, and therefore all Christians are illogical. That statement is pure logical fallacy, as was yours.

Shiva, the 6-handed "god" of something-or-other? A sense of humor is always appreciated here, thank you! I don't see the connection with the previous statement though. Like I proved earlier, the Lord has been proven to exist by merit of the fact that *we* exist!

6. If the signs were OBVIOUS and UNDENIABLE, then everyone would be a theist and this debate would be non-existent.

Again, as I mentioned earlier, every creature knows that God exists, beyond a doubt. The Lord has shown Himself time and time again. To deny Christ is to deny reality. As I said, many people are too scared to admit that they will have to answer to an all-powerful, all-holy, all-just God someday for their grievous sins, so they deny themselves the truth. It is a dangerous, dangerous thing to do, my friend, and I hope that you do not do the same.

7. Anders Behring Brievik.

I admit that I do not know why you mention this?

8. If you would like to donate to atheist charities, ATHEIST LINK

Atheist charities are constantly being proven to be simply a cover for money laundering. Without Jesus looking over your shoulder, what is the motivation to be honest and to help those in need? There has never been an honest, non-Christian charity, bank on it.

10. Definition: "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities." You're describing evolution and the origins of the universe. This is like saying that Christianity is the belief that all non-Christians must be violently tortured so as to eradicate the heathens. What I just stated (I was referring to the Spanish Inquisition) was taken out of context with relation to the whole of Christianity, as was your statement with relation to Atheism.

Here you are just playing games. I believe I mentioned already the direct causation of atheists to evolution. I defy you to show me an Atheist who is also a Creationist. You will be unable to do it. Therefore, Atheists are, by definition, evolutionists, and vice versa.

11. You're right, atheists do not believe in miracles. This is most likely because no atheist has seen a supernatural event, only claims by Christians that they have witnessed supernatural events.

Everyone has seen a supernatural miracle, they just have different words for it. Again, it goes back to having to give God credit: atheists merely deny themselves reality, and hope that these things don't exist.

12. Atheists cannot explain the origins of the universe. Therefore, Zeus exists. Same logic...

Riiiiiight, where are Zeus' writings. Where is Zeus when people pray? Zeus is a made-up real god of people in antiquity. Jesus Christ has outlived him by over 2,000 years!

14. Using your argument, I will be on the lookout for any mentally unstable people who are Christians. If I find one, that means that God does not exist (of course it doesn't mean that)

I am unsure of why you are using this roundabout proof of God's existence. I think Answers in Genesis has it listed under the "Do not use" proofs for God, although I don't know why.

15. Much of Latin and South America are VERY strongly Christian, yet so much violence and death takes place in various places there. The idea that a Christian society is intrinsically moral is false, as we can see from troubled, Christian areas. Also, disbelieving in an afterlife means an atheist does not anticipate death like a Christian does. In fact, you hear from many Christians that they "cannot wait." There have also been Christian suicide cults throughout history.

You're making a false connection here. Latin and South America are primarily Catholics, and a reasonably intelligent person like you must know the difference between Catholics and Christians. Name one Christian society that isn't intrinsically moral? I have an example of one that is: America.

16. I don't see how Freud's opinion affects anything at all. If there were evil popes( and there were...), is Christianity immoral? That argument doesn't hold water.

Again, here we go with the convolution of Christianity with Catholicism. Were you raised Catholic? There is no connection whatsoever, other than the Catholic church borrowed a few ideas to try to make a couple bucks.

17. What about pastors who used greeters and info cards to find out some problems with a specific audience member, and then single them out like it was a divine inspiration? Is that not deceptive?

This is what ministry is all about -- I am confused about what you think is so terrible. The notecards are used to direct the Pastor (and Jesus) to help those in needs. Any person with problems needs nothing more than to hear the encouraging words of a Pastor, don't you agree? How is that deceptive??

19. This one makes me question whether you are a serious Christian or whether this post is a joke. Christians are superstitious, they always have been. They do not embrace the cold, logical world around them. That sounds more like atheism. And...are you saying that Muslims are atheists because they aren't Christian?

What is a joke about Christianity?? I thought this was supposed to be a rational debate and not an insult-fest. I hope you were being tongue-in-cheek here. We've already mentioned that the cold, logical world around us points to one thing: a Creator. I don't see why this is viewed as "superstitious". You don't see Christians gathering around a ouija board or anything like that, do you? (If you do, please alert Bobby Joe!)

20. Atheism is not on the decline. More and more people are beginning to question religious beliefs. Whether or not you are cautious is irrelevant.

You must be reading the atheistic liberal media drivel that makes the rounds. This claim is made every few years, but persistently nearly 30% of the country expects to see Jesus in their lifetimes, and nearly 70% are Christians. Don't be deceived by their lies!

23. My personal cause for dis-belief stems from rational thought and research on the subject, not from any of those reasons. It seems as though you're simply trying to demonize the other side.

I will not insult your (lack of) belief, but i will ask one question. Why is it that you trust your own, admittedly fallible, brain above the Creator, One who created all Life & Matter? Not to mention, and I imagine you've heard this before, but imagine what happens when you die. If you're wrong, you burn in Hell forever. If I am wrong, nothing will happen! Just something to think about.

24. What is "good" really depends on who you are, where you are, whom you are among, and when you are. Even Christians interpretations of what is good have changed throughout the centuries. If good is universal, does that mean that only people now who exist in the modern evolution of Christian theology know what actions they should define their life by? If not, then what separates your actions (given guidance of course by the hand of God, because you are saved and all), from a Medieval crusader who slaughtered and pillaged in the name of spreading His word?

I am afraid you are mistaken. The Word of God is Timeless and never changes. Although I agree that there are times when what is right and what is wrong are confusing, the answer is always in the Bible, given enough reading time and prayer! That is why we are commanded to spend much time in prayer and reading the Bible!

25. Once again, I question the legitimacy of the poster. There were scientists before Jesus was born (Greece anyone? China?), and who were not Jewish. Therefore, Christianity does not own a monopoly on science.

All good scientific discoveries were made by religious men. Newton, for instance. It was all driven by a desire to know the Creator better. Others just happened across it by accident!

29. I am living proof that this point is simply untrue. I know many atheists who began as Christians as well.

This is a common argument that simply isn't true. No true Christian would every walk away from the Lord. Once you have known Christ, there simply is no other alternative!

31. So you're saying the Bible is basically incomprehensible.

The Bible is an incredibly complex book that takes many lifetimes to master. That is why Pastor Deacon Fred is so highly revered! The man has so much inherent Biblical knowledge that he simply outpaces any other preacher I've ever met.

32. Some atheists do make bad arguments and they make all atheists look stupid. Some christians make bad arguments (like you, frankly), and they make all christians look stupid.

In true atheistic fashion you once again resort to petty insults. I will overlook this insult with the hope that you will not try such a thing again!

34. I've never met more hard-line atheists than those in philosophy majors. If a Christian would have walked in to a philos club meeting, they would have been torn apart.

Occasionally there are those of us who venture into such places, and I assure you that, while there may be physical danger, there is no danger to our beliefs! No one has every been able to prove a single part of the Bible wrong, so a Christian who enters such an atmosphere with the full armor of God cannot be defeated!

36. The French Revolution had more to do with taxes, class differences, and ideas of freedom than religion.

But do not all of those things ultimately stem from one's religious beliefs? I mean, we know that God blesses those that bless Israel, so that explains economics, taxes are evil, as Reagan proved, etc.

Anyways, I hope that you stick around. Despite your few insults, I think that you might fit in well here!

-Ernest

[retro1]

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Ok, please explain to me, why do you believe in god? How did he create the world in six days? I personally find it to be much more realistic that we evolved to the creatures we are now than the idea that we were created by some godly being.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Ok, please explain to me, why do you believe in god? How did he create the world in six days? I personally find it to be much more realistic that we evolved to the creatures we are now than the idea that we were created by some godly being.

God created the world. It's in the Bible.

[New Zealand Abo]

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Attention, just a quick notice that you "Heathen Basher" are an idiot.
You have offended me because half of my friends are atheists, does this mean that they are all secretly communists and plotting to kill me??? Of course not, quit posting these lies because you are totally lost and confused. DO you think that Jesus would want you to be posting these things about the people that he has created? Maybe he wants you to be kind to them and bring them into his holy light, instead of insulting them and ridiculing them so that they hate us?
I will not stand for this. I am a Christian and I love the Lord Almighty, however I loathe these comments that are incorrectly made and idiotic.
May the Lord Bless You With Wisdom

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Attention, just a quick notice that you "Heathen Basher" are an idiot.
You have offended me because half of my friends are atheists, does this mean that they are all secretly communists and plotting to kill me??? Of course not, quit posting these lies because you are totally lost and confused. DO you think that Jesus would want you to be posting these things about the people that he has created? Maybe he wants you to be kind to them and bring them into his holy light, instead of insulting them and ridiculing them so that they hate us?
I will not stand for this. I am a Christian and I love the Lord Almighty, however I loathe these comments that are incorrectly made and idiotic.
May the Lord Bless You With Wisdom

If you were a Christian, you wouldn't have atheists for friends.

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

[New Zealand Abo]

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If you were a Christian, you wouldn't have atheists for friends.

Buddy can I just say this?
Try and think rationally, I implore you.
My choice in my friends is my choice, and you dare to state that I am not a Christian because some of my friends are Atheist, then you cannot call yourself one either.
"Love one another as you would love yourself"
I understand that you will ban me from this but I don't care. If you want to know what I think (which I doubt) all those people that you have banned because they decide to go against what you say are right and you are wrong, because they see the bigger picture.
You don't.
I am really sick of you because you are a bully, and bullies are not nice, (Obviously) but here is the major reason why I don't really like you. You decide to put everyone that does not think like you in a bad light.
I do not understand why you must go about to people that do not YET believe in God and critise them for that fact, because the simple matter is that they need proof that God is real, and as Christians we need to let God work through us. I think that you are letting the team down dude.

So in conclusion, Pastor Ezekiel, I am a Christian and I have atheist friends, deal with it. I hope that through the way I act that they will see God's work in my life, and see that God is real and is not in a forum.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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. I am a Christian and I love the Lord Almighty, however I loathe these comments that are incorrectly made and idiotic.
May the Lord Bless You With Wisdom

You are sissy-false-Christian that is no different than a homosexual anti-Christ, you un-saved, heathen trash!

We are True-Christians™ and we follow the bible to the LETTER!


Matthew
16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It is absolutely apparent, by your friendship wit foul Atheists, that this is the works that you bare!

Galatians
5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Therefore, your soul is in danger for speaking against the annointed congregation of God's Favorite Church, Landover Baptist Church!

1 Samuel
15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

1 Corinthians
16:22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Buddy can I just say this?
Try and think rationally, I implore you.
My choice in my friends is my choice, and you dare to state that I am not a Christian because some of my friends are Atheist, then you cannot call yourself one either.
"Love one another as you would love yourself"
I understand that you will ban me from this but I don't care. If you want to know what I think (which I doubt) all those people that you have banned because they decide to go against what you say are right and you are wrong, because they see the bigger picture.
You don't.
I am really sick of you because you are a bully, and bullies are not nice, (Obviously) but here is the major reason why I don't really like you. You decide to put everyone that does not think like you in a bad light.
I do not understand why you must go about to people that do not YET believe in God and critise them for that fact, because the simple matter is that they need proof that God is real, and as Christians we need to let God work through us. I think that you are letting the team down dude.

So in conclusion, Pastor Ezekiel, I am a Christian and I have atheist friends, deal with it. I hope that through the way I act that they will see God's work in my life, and see that God is real and is not in a forum.

You bring up two issues that I will address. One, getting banned; two, hanging out with queers.

First: people are banned for one reason and one reason only: disobeying the site rules.

If you have spent any time here whatsoever, you will find that there are many long-time members who are hell-bound atheists, child-molesting priests, wishy-washy agnostics, tree-fornicating wiccans and even liberals.

How do they maintain their posting privileges? They follow the rules.

Sure, they get their cheap shots in, but they are useful to have around to illustrate the depths of depravity that are in store for you if you turn your back on God.

Second: you know God can't stand sodomy (Leviticus 20:13). He's destroyed entire TOWNS because of it (notice the etymology of "sodomite'). And when you hang around queers, that is showing your implicit agreement with their deathstyle.

How do I know? It's right there in the Bible!

(Amos 3:3) "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Mister Shepard]

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Atheism may be wrong, or right, who knows. You can't prove that god does or doesn't exist, it's a faith thing.