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[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

When I first saw the first thread I did on this forum, I couldn't believe you people were serious. Really, protection against Homoers? Most homos don't want to attack you, they just want to be left alone from people like you. I'm not trying to insult any of you, but you created this forum and church with the idea you have the right to express your beliefs, and I have that right too. Before you judge me, like you will, I am not liberal, democrat, homo, or any other derogatory you could think of. I am me. Most likely, none of you will know me, because after I say what I'm about to, you, in your ignorance, will ban my account and email. That's fine. Someone will see this, someone will start to question everything you people stand for. So, without further delay:

Are you people so ignorant and arrogant that you believe "Unsaved Unwelcome" Yes, I read the post on that, and it's complete and utter crap. To think you are better than someone just because they have not praised YOUR God is just down right unright. Allow people to be who they want to be, not who you want them to be. Because, if you haven't noticed, the world goes on whether you get what you want or not. If you want to change someone, go ahead and try, but do it with a welcoming spirit. Don't make them feel like you are better. Besides, if you think you're better then someone else, you're probably not. Next. back to Homosexuals. Honestly, why should you care if the like the same sex. If you do, try to change them, but don't take up arms and "buy flamethrowers from militia" to use against them. To even think that you should be ashamed of yourselves. If God wants them to die, he will kill them. Not you. And if you do, you are a murderer and that is much worse than being a homo. Lastly, Jesus died for all people sins, thereby ending predestination. Everyone has the same chance you do of making it into Heaven. So turn your nose from the sky, and look down on the world, see it for what it is, and move to change it.

Oh and a note on your church, to quote my good friend's, who is a writer, short story: "This is not God's house," Wander stated. "You have turned this Mountain of Life into the Pit of Ignorance. A Sodom proclaiming to be Jerusalem."

God would be more ashamed of all of you then he would be of the Homos and Atheist you speak against. Honestly, what's the point of talking about them on a forum they will probably never see. If you want them to change, go to them and try. You fools sit here in front of your computers and play God on a forum, throwing anyone who questions you out.

[Levi Jones]

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Thanks for going out of your way to register, await email confirmation and then post a tl:dr rant about how much you hate Jesus.

[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

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You're quite welcome, but you've misunderstood me. I never said I hated Jesus. Quite the opposite, I love him. And I thought he would like all of you to learn to preach a message of love instead of this message of hate you are so bent upon showing the world.

[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

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And again you show your ignorance by not reading it. You reject others beliefs, but welcome your own. Because you cannot fathom that you may be wrong about something, it's ok. I forgive you. But you and I both know if one of your forum leaders had posted a thread of the same length, you would have ate it up.

[Levi Jones]

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You're quite welcome, but you've misunderstood me. I never said I hated Jesus. Quite the opposite, I love him. And I thought he would like all of you to learn to preach a message of love instead of this message of hate you are so bent upon showing the world.

What would you have us do? The Old Testament says to stone sodomites. The New Testament lumps you in with witches, drunkards and brawlers.

You're saying that you love Jesus, yet you spit in His face. Turn away from your homosexual choicestyle and enroll yourself into a straight camp now!

[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

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I have said what I would have you do. Show the world love, not hate. You will not change anyone by calling them "Unsaved Trash", you're only furthering their hatred of you. And as before stated, I am not homosexual. And you really don't have to resort to name calling.

[Levi Jones]

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And again you show your ignorance by not reading it. You reject others beliefs, but welcome your own. Because you cannot fathom that you may be wrong about something, it's ok. I forgive you. But you and I both know if one of your forum leaders had posted a thread of the same length, you would have ate it up.

What is wrong about God's inerrant Word to man?


Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Bad of me with our KJV only policy, but Young's Literal Translation of this verse is even Godlier.


1 Corinthians 6:9
have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites.

1 Timothy 1: 9-10
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Again, here is a secret from the YLT.

1 Timothy 1: 10
whoremongers, sodomites, men-stealers, liars, perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that to sound doctrine is adverse,

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Wouldn't you say that a person who follows all of Jesus' teachings and the Bible loves Him more than someone who doesn't or none at all? That is why we love Jesus and you don't. We strictly follow the Bible and you condemn us for it.

There are a multitude of verses in the Bible which say that we must seperate ourselves from unsaved people. Why should we welcome unsaved people when the Bible forbids us to do so? Are you trying to steer us away from doing our Christian duty?

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

2nd Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

So I ask you, since you seem to know what God wants, can you point to any specific Bible verses that we've somehow ignored or disobeyed?

[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

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But, see, the Bible is all well and good. But what I am attacking here is not the holy book, but the way you people are taking its meaning. You should not literally stone sodomites. Nor hurt people in anyway, because it only brings about more hurt. Use the gift of persuasion. Use your love and your voice to show people the way. Not bar them from it because you deem them "Unsaved Trash". God really doesn't care about your personal judgments of people, so stop judging them. Embrace them.

[Levi Jones]

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I have said what I would have you do. Show the world love, not hate. You will not change anyone by calling them "Unsaved Trash"

We have saved thousands and thousands of souls right here. Even in my short time here, I have saved dozens. Shout Glory!

We all start off as unsaved trash. I did just like you.

, you're only furthering their hatred of you.

Now, you're just talking crazy.
We tell The Truth® always. If you can show me/us where we are scripturally incorrect, I'm all ears.

And as before stated, I am not homosexual. And you really don't have to resort to name calling.

I believe you, bro!

It's cool. Pastor Zeke has a ministry specially for you!

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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But, see, the Bible is all well and good. But what I am attacking here is not the holy book, but the way you people are taking its meaning. You should not literally stone sodomites. Nor hurt people in anyway, because it only brings about more hurt. Use the gift of persuasion. Use your love and your voice to show people the way. Not bar them from it because you deem them "Unsaved Trash". God really doesn't care about your personal judgments of people, so stop judging them. Embrace them.

Can you point to any specific Bible verses that say we have to embrace unsaved people and not judge them? The Bible offers many verses to the contrary (see my above post for two examples).

Tell me, how do you think the below verse should be interpreted?

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Can you point to me where it says to be tolerant and embrace them? I can't find it in there.

[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

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I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

All people have the ability to do this, so show them the way.

Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commands. - Deuteronomy 7:9

Show people to love him.

I love those who love me, and those who seek me find me. - Proverbs 8:17

Again, all people have the ability to love God, and God already love them. So, instead of showing them the hate you worship more than him, love them and through your love they will find the way.

Here's a simple one:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. - John 3:16

God loves this WHOLE world. You should too. But if people want to get into Heaven, they must follow God's Way. Since you are already enlightened about Jesus Christ being the Saviour, and you being God's servant, it is your duty to show God's LOVE to others.

[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

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These were the quotes I was actually looking for:

This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. – 1 John 4:9-11


We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. – 1 John 4:19-20

[Levi Jones]

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But, see, the Bible is all well and good. But what I am attacking here is not the holy book, but the way you people are taking its meaning. You should not literally stone sodomites.

Should we visualize it, even though the Word says to? Of course, we can't. The Bible tells us to follow the laws of man.

Nor hurt people in anyway, because it only brings about more hurt.

I'm sorry, but as they say, the truth hurts. Sometimes it is a bitter pill to swallow.

Use the gift of persuasion. Use your love and your voice to show people the way. Not bar them from it because you deem them "Unsaved Trash".

I thought that is what I have been attempting to do for you.

God really doesn't care about your personal judgments of people, so stop judging them. Embrace them.

See Rev. Jim's comment.

[DiversityIsNotBad Waiting for Email Confirmation]

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Should we visualize it, even though the Word says to? Of course, we can't. The Bible tells us to follow the laws of man.



I'm sorry, but as they say, the truth hurts. Sometimes it is a bitter pill to swallow.





I thought that is what I have been attempting to do for you.



See Rev. Jim's comment.

Attempting to do for me? By showing me a sarcastic thanks for going out of my to register and argue with you? That's not at all what I'm talking about. And as for the embrace others part, see my above comments.