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  • Bobby-Joe
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    Re: Research

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    1) How is it you can come to beleive in these ideals when science has proven inconsistancies in the bible.
    eg. Evolution, "God made man and all of earths creatures" - Evolution and carbon dating can show a species development through a thousand years, human development over tens of thousand of years.
    Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs or are they considered blastphemous? Please exadurate of either or.
    While this sounds like a cheep retorcal attack dressed up like question, the short reply is "God said so" the longer reply is here at Answers in Genesis.

    Maybe you should try exerting yourself and doing a little reading before haling off and making assumption?

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    2) I have read threads over this forum, and have read alot which seems to "Persicute" women, just because thats how they were born. Chasity Belts. Unable to conceive due to obeisity (which science has proven is a big factor, just as much as being underweight ***AGAIN opinions please****)
    What are you talking about? We treat women the way God tells us to. If you view it as persecution then perhaps you might consider the real issue your unnatural treatment of women? Anyway Baptists women aren't fat, they are big boned.

    BTW: If you a serious about this paper thing, maybe you might consider checking your spelling?

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  • James Hutchins
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    Re: Research

    tl:dr

    Son, you are in school, right? School is not about answering a single question , it is about learning how to get the answers for yourself, not having them spoon fed to you. Get with the program.

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Re: Research

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    and i never will
    So you are capable of predicting the future? Or have you just decided you already know everything there is to know and there is nothing left for you to learn? Amazing. I am an old man and I assure there is still lots of things to learn for me.

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  • GOD=life
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    Re: Research

    I will try to answer some of your questions.

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    1) How is it you can come to beleive in these ideals when science has proven inconsistancies in the bible.
    While to an outsider, there may appear to be only one Bible, there are actually many different versions in the English version alone (NASB, NKJV, NIV, etc). There are some subtle and not-so-subtle differences.

    We stick to the KJV 1611 Bible as that is the only true Word of God. Other versions are not reliable and may contain changes to suit a particular agenda. For a perspective of a well-known person outside of LBC, you may be interested in this:


    Many of us actually have scientific backgrounds. As you know, science is constantly changing and improving. The trend we see is that as science matures, it actually confirms the KJV 1611 Bible.

    Since God created the rules that drive the mechanics of the universe and these rules are highly mathematical and logical, it is only fair to conclude that God is logical. Thus, the Bible has to be a logical piece of work.

    If you read and follow the entire KJV 1611 Bible, then a logical picture emerges. If you take only bits and pieces, then it's not logical.

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs or are they considered blastphemous? Please exadurate of either or.
    As you know from the recent scandals on global warming (google search: climategate), researchers often inject their own opinions in their measurements. Just because someone is a scientist, does not mean that person is right. It is proven fact that scientists are often wrong.

    Also keep in mind that saying "but he's a scientist, so he must be right" is an appeal to authority fallacy. We prefer to use our brains here and not just assume things. Without proof, it would just be blind faith.

    Now I hear you think "but isn't belief in God also blind faith... you have no proof". To that, I say: see my signature.

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    2) I have read threads over this forum, and have read alot which seems to "Persicute" women, just because thats how they were born.
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    The Bible is pretty clear about the position of women. You can call us extremist, but in reality, the Bible is "extremist". Consider these verses:

    1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.
    1 Cor. 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
    1 Cor. 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
    1 Cor. 11:8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
    1 Cor. 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
    1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

    It cannot be denied, upon reading the Bible, that God had different intentions for men and for women.

    It's like going to a mathematician and saying he is extreme because he says 1 + 1 = 2, while a mild mathematician says that 1 + 1 = 1.5.

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    In a modern day and age when a woman can be the head of a company just as much as a man, how is it that your teachings persicute women still.
    In the same modern day, the women are still the ones who get babies. Not so much has changed. Also keep in mind that the Bible covers both the beginning of times and the end of times.

    We do not persecute women, however. There are many True Christian women here. But they know their place and so everyone is happy.

    When the mule does the work of an ox, neither the mule or the ox is happy.

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    3) How was you brought into this belief? Born, parents, friends, seeking spiritual guidence. Etc etc.
    There are many ways people come to True Christianity. In all cases, True Christians have carefully studied the KJV 1611 Bible. Unlike other "Christians" who appear to go by blind faith, we are very logical and consistent in our beliefs.

    Another very important aspect (this cannot be stressed enough): we follow the entire Bible. Many Christians will tell you to use your own interpretation or to only pick the parts that are convenient. This leads to a corrupted view as they basically make God into their puppet. The Bible is clear that they will go to Hell (see my signature for relevant passage).

    You might also have noticed that many Christians cite Leviticus when they wish to substantiate an opinion against homersexuals and yet they eat shrimp, which is forbidden in Leviticus as well.

    Rest assured that we do not eat shrimp. That would be hypocrisy.
    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    Now i understand some people may be feeling angry, but honestly theres no point.
    Why would I be angry? You show an academic and honest interest in True Christianity and that deserves an honest answer. If you treat people with respect, you will get respect back. I you talk to us like children (some do this), you won't.

    Originally posted by Caboose View Post
    I've already tried to make it onto the muslim "Extreamist" forums and i had a Jihad put on me, wow... Constructive only please... Insults are not going to help me.
    Well, consider that their prophet, muhammad, was married to a 9 year old according to their own holy book. So he was a pedophile. At the same time, they say he is the most moral man ever. With other words: every mooslim is less moral than a pedophile. Pretty crazy, huh?

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  • Caboose
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    Research

    Hello to you all. My name is Luke.

    i am 26 years old, from England, UK.

    I am here as i am writing a paper on extreamist beliefs of different relegions.

    I myself, hold no beleif in god, i hold no spiritual beleifs and i never will.

    I would like to ask you all a couple of questions. If you do not want to answer then please just navigate away from this page. If you have somthing constructive to say then please leave a reply.

    1) How is it you can come to beleive in these ideals when science has proven inconsistancies in the bible.
    eg. Evolution, "God made man and all of earths creatures" - Evolution and carbon dating can show a species development through a thousand years, human development over tens of thousand of years.
    Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs or are they considered blastphemous? Please exadurate of either or.

    2) I have read threads over this forum, and have read alot which seems to "Persicute" women, just because thats how they were born. Chasity Belts. Unable to conceive due to obeisity (which science has proven is a big factor, just as much as being underweight ***AGAIN opinions please****)

    How do you view this? I would never tell my wife to live in a pottingshed for a week, tell her what she can and cant do- i would like your justifications. please.

    In a modern day and age when a woman can be the head of a company just as much as a man, how is it that your teachings persicute women still.

    3) How was you brought into this belief? Born, parents, friends, seeking spiritual guidence. Etc etc.

    Now i understand some people may be feeling angry, but honestly theres no point. I've already tried to make it onto the muslim "Extreamist" forums and i had a Jihad put on me, wow... Constructive only please... Insults are not going to help me.

    Once i have several views and the paper is written i will host it online, Post a link on here. Your input will be extreamly helpfull.

    Thanks in advance. Luke.
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