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[Caboose]

Hello to you all. My name is Luke.

i am 26 years old, from England, UK.

I am here as i am writing a paper on extreamist beliefs of different relegions.

I myself, hold no beleif in god, i hold no spiritual beleifs and i never will.

I would like to ask you all a couple of questions. If you do not want to answer then please just navigate away from this page. If you have somthing constructive to say then please leave a reply.

1) How is it you can come to beleive in these ideals when science has proven inconsistancies in the bible.
eg. Evolution, "God made man and all of earths creatures" - Evolution and carbon dating can show a species development through a thousand years, human development over tens of thousand of years.
Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs or are they considered blastphemous? Please exadurate of either or.

2) I have read threads over this forum, and have read alot which seems to "Persicute" women, just because thats how they were born. Chasity Belts. Unable to conceive due to obeisity (which science has proven is a big factor, just as much as being underweight ***AGAIN opinions please****)

How do you view this? I would never tell my wife to live in a pottingshed for a week, tell her what she can and cant do- i would like your justifications. please.

In a modern day and age when a woman can be the head of a company just as much as a man, how is it that your teachings persicute women still.

3) How was you brought into this belief? Born, parents, friends, seeking spiritual guidence. Etc etc.

Now i understand some people may be feeling angry, but honestly theres no point. I've already tried to make it onto the muslim "Extreamist" forums and i had a Jihad put on me, wow... Constructive only please... Insults are not going to help me.

Once i have several views and the paper is written i will host it online, Post a link on here. Your input will be extreamly helpfull.

Thanks in advance. Luke.

[GOD=life]

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I will try to answer some of your questions.

1) How is it you can come to beleive in these ideals when science has proven inconsistancies in the bible.

While to an outsider, there may appear to be only one Bible, there are actually many different versions in the English version alone (NASB, NKJV, NIV, etc). There are some subtle and not-so-subtle differences.

We stick to the KJV 1611 Bible as that is the only true Word of God. Other versions are not reliable and may contain changes to suit a particular agenda. For a perspective of a well-known person outside of LBC, you may be interested in this:

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0031/0031_01.asp

Many of us actually have scientific backgrounds. As you know, science is constantly changing and improving. The trend we see is that as science matures, it actually confirms the KJV 1611 Bible.

Since God created the rules that drive the mechanics of the universe and these rules are highly mathematical and logical, it is only fair to conclude that God is logical. Thus, the Bible has to be a logical piece of work.

If you read and follow the entire KJV 1611 Bible, then a logical picture emerges. If you take only bits and pieces, then it's not logical.

Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs or are they considered blastphemous? Please exadurate of either or.

As you know from the recent scandals on global warming (google search: climategate), researchers often inject their own opinions in their measurements. Just because someone is a scientist, does not mean that person is right. It is proven fact that scientists are often wrong.

Also keep in mind that saying "but he's a scientist, so he must be right" is an appeal to authority fallacy. We prefer to use our brains here and not just assume things. Without proof, it would just be blind faith.

Now I hear you think "but isn't belief in God also blind faith... you have no proof". To that, I say: see my signature.

2) I have read threads over this forum, and have read alot which seems to "Persicute" women, just because thats how they were born.

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The Bible is pretty clear about the position of women. You can call us extremist, but in reality, the Bible is "extremist". Consider these verses:

1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.
1 Cor. 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1 Cor. 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
1 Cor. 11:8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
1 Cor. 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

It cannot be denied, upon reading the Bible, that God had different intentions for men and for women.

It's like going to a mathematician and saying he is extreme because he says 1 + 1 = 2, while a mild mathematician says that 1 + 1 = 1.5.

In a modern day and age when a woman can be the head of a company just as much as a man, how is it that your teachings persicute women still.

In the same modern day, the women are still the ones who get babies. Not so much has changed. Also keep in mind that the Bible covers both the beginning of times and the end of times.

We do not persecute women, however. There are many True Christian women here. But they know their place and so everyone is happy.

When the mule does the work of an ox, neither the mule or the ox is happy.

3) How was you brought into this belief? Born, parents, friends, seeking spiritual guidence. Etc etc.

There are many ways people come to True Christianity. In all cases, True Christians have carefully studied the KJV 1611 Bible. Unlike other "Christians" who appear to go by blind faith, we are very logical and consistent in our beliefs.

Another very important aspect (this cannot be stressed enough): we follow the entire Bible. Many Christians will tell you to use your own interpretation or to only pick the parts that are convenient. This leads to a corrupted view as they basically make God into their puppet. The Bible is clear that they will go to Hell (see my signature for relevant passage).

You might also have noticed that many Christians cite Leviticus when they wish to substantiate an opinion against homersexuals and yet they eat shrimp, which is forbidden in Leviticus as well.

Rest assured that we do not eat shrimp. That would be hypocrisy.

Now i understand some people may be feeling angry, but honestly theres no point.

Why would I be angry? You show an academic and honest interest in True Christianity and that deserves an honest answer. If you treat people with respect, you will get respect back. I you talk to us like children (some do this), you won't.

I've already tried to make it onto the muslim "Extreamist" forums and i had a Jihad put on me, wow... Constructive only please... Insults are not going to help me.

Well, consider that their prophet, muhammad, was married to a 9 year old according to their own holy book. So he was a pedophile. At the same time, they say he is the most moral man ever. With other words: every mooslim is less moral than a pedophile. Pretty crazy, huh?

[Cranky Old Man]

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and i never will

So you are capable of predicting the future? Or have you just decided you already know everything there is to know and there is nothing left for you to learn? Amazing. I am an old man and I assure there is still lots of things to learn for me.

[James Hutchins]

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tl:dr

Son, you are in school, right? School is not about answering a single question , it is about learning how to get the answers for yourself, not having them spoon fed to you. Get with the program.

[Bobby-Joe]

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1) How is it you can come to beleive in these ideals when science has proven inconsistancies in the bible.
eg. Evolution, "God made man and all of earths creatures" - Evolution and carbon dating can show a species development through a thousand years, human development over tens of thousand of years.
Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs or are they considered blastphemous? Please exadurate of either or.

While this sounds like a cheep retorcal attack dressed up like question, the short reply is "God said so" the longer reply is here at Answers in Genesis.

Maybe you should try exerting yourself and doing a little reading before haling off and making assumption?

2) I have read threads over this forum, and have read alot which seems to "Persicute" women, just because thats how they were born. Chasity Belts. Unable to conceive due to obeisity (which science has proven is a big factor, just as much as being underweight ***AGAIN opinions please****)

What are you talking about? We treat women the way God tells us to. If you view it as persecution then perhaps you might consider the real issue your unnatural treatment of women? Anyway Baptists women aren't fat, they are big boned.

BTW: If you a serious about this paper thing, maybe you might consider checking your spelling?

[A Follower]

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Hello Luke,

Did you know that the internet is an American invention and you are therefor required to speak American when using it?

Your bastardized and degenerate version of the glorious American language is hard to understand.

Hello to you all. My name is Luke.
No need for a new paragraph here.
i I am 26 years old, and I am from England, UK. Please use parallel structures only when there is parallelism in form and function.

I am here as because i I am writing a paper on extreamist extremist beliefs of different Different from what? Did you try to write "several" or "several different"? relegions religions.


I myself, hold no beleif belief in god God, i I hold no spiritual beleifs beliefs and i I never will.

I would like to ask you all you-all a couple of questions. If you do not want to answer then please just navigate away from this page. If you have somthing something constructive to say then please leave a reply. If you did not mean you-all you shouldn't have qualified your statement later where you say you don't actually need answers from all of us.

1) How is it you can come to beleive believe in these ideals which ideals? when science has proven inconsistancies inconsistencies in the bible Bible
Science has not shown inconsistencies in the Bible, however there are inconsistencies between science and the Bible.
Please use a comma instead of a period and a new line when you intend to continue the sentence with an additional sentence element.
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eg. , e.g. Evolution evolution, "God made man and all of earths creatures" This quote does not come from evolution or the Bible. - What does this hyphen mean? If you wanted to contrast your interpretation of the Bible versus your interpretation of evolution you should present claims on the same subject on both sides, and use a parallel sentence structure. Evolution and carbon dating can show a species' development through over a thousand years, and human development over tens of thousand thousands of years.
Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs beliefs or are they considered blastphemous blasphemous? Please exadurate I'm not sure what this word is supposed to be, do you want us to expand on the subject, explain our thoughts, or did you want to exasperate us? of either or Again I do not understand what these two words are supposed to mean, I even consulted English dictionaries, but they do not contain a definition of either of the two words that fits in your sentence.

2) I have read threads over on this forum, and have read alot a lot which seems to "Persicute persecute" women, You misuse parallel structure once again, you are saying that you have read both the forum and separately (i.e. somewhere else) on the subject of persecution of women, but I doubt that's what you meant to write just because thats how they were born Please read those threads again, our attitude towards women is not because of how they are born, but because how the Bible tells us to treat them. Chasity Belts This is not a sentence. Unable Inability to conceive due to obeisity obesity (which science has proven is a big factor, just as much as being underweight ***AGAIN opinions please****) Please close parentheses when you finished supplying supplementary information. Asterisks are not a valid punctuation mark.

How do you view this? View what? Did you start a new paragraph by accident? Or did you want to use a colon instead of a question mark? I would never tell my wife to live in a pottingshed potting shed for a week, tell her what she can and cant can't do- A hyphen or a dash here seems inappropriate i I would like your justifications. , please.

In a modern day and age when a woman can be the head of a company just as much You meant to write easy, often or something similar? as a man, how I suspect you wanted to ask why is it that your teachings persicute persecute women still.

3) How was were you brought into this belief? Born, parents, friends, seeking spiritual guidence guidance. , Etc etc., etc.

Now i I understand some people may be feeling angry, but honestly theres there's no point. I've already tried to make it onto the muslim "Extreamist extremist" forums and i I had a Jihad put on me, wow... Constructive only please... Insults are not going to help me.

Once i I have several views and the paper is written i will host it online, Post post a link on here. Your input will be extreamly extremely helpfull helpful.

Thanks in advance. Luke.

Luke, I recommend you ask your school to teach you grammar and spelling instead of comparative theology, it will be far more useful to you as it will likely cut down on Jihads due to misunderstandings.

[Oakland "Reb" Griner]

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Hello to you all. My name is Luke.

i am 26 years old, from England, UK.

I am here as i am writing a paper on extreamist beliefs of different relegions.
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See now Luke, you start off with an incorrect assumption. Landover Baptist is the pinnacle of mainline King James Bible believing Christianity.

The extremists are the ones that ignore parts of the Bible they find inconvenient. Extremists write their own bibles or supplements to the Godly King James. Extremists are the ones who come here and lecture us on religiosity with out any other higher authority than THEMSELVES.

Who ordained you?? How many years have you spent studying the King James Bible??

It is pretty clear to me that Luke is the 'extremist' here.

[Jed_Cassidy]

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Word of advice--please spell-check your paper before turning it in.

[Professor Bessemer]

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Hello to you all. My name is Luke.

i am 26 years old, from England, UK.

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Luke, I am concerned for you. I believe you may be having either an aneurism or a stroke. You should call an ambulance immediately. There is definitely something bad happening to your brain.

[Rev Jeffrey Lebowski]

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Hello Ukie Lukie Caboose,
I am also working on a correspondent school paper. It is for my G.E.D., which is the diploma ya get when you want to work at Walmart. Anyhows, I need you to answer a few questions for me. If you want to answer, just navigate over your keyboard and writes me some replies.

#1) Most folks around this world do believe in a God (even pagans ones who really don't count much, like them funny blue hindaloo elephant things , or such stuff.) So, if most folks do believe , then why are you not the extreamist if ya don't believe?

#2) Now that we have determined that you are an extreamist, why would you allow your manhood to be persicuted by a fat ho' who won't listen to you? Iffin' your womerns is trottin around the pubs without a chastity belt, and her fat arse is telling you that she can't supply ya with a manchild son (for you to watch footballs games with on the Telie) then you are becoming what we USA men call a pussie-whipped eunuch. Lock that fat tramp in the potting shed and have yourself some biscuits and tea. Be a real man before that she-beast comes home with a niglet larvae in her belly.

#3)How was you brought into your belief? Was you raised by Marxist parents, or do you have a special (pedophilial) relationship with your atheist schoolmaster?

Now I understand that ya maybe feeling a bit angry, and I honestly don't give a squat.

The only worthy thing ya done so far is to get geehawded , and that is a good start. Now its perfectly OK to take some of them Moojibars out in a preemptive fashion.
Oh, go get yourself a subservient Christian womerns and quit diddling your teachers for grades.

Rev Jeffrey Lebowski
Sister Verna Too {she wants to know how you Brit kids evolved such bad teeth}

[True Disciple]

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1) How is it you can come to beleive in these ideals when science has proven inconsistancies in the bible. Are these scientific facts ignored by your beleifs or are they considered blastphemous?

No, they are simply incorrect. There is not a single scientific fact which contradicts the Bible, as the Bible, being written by God, is written by someone way more informed than even the most intelligent scientist!

2) I have read threads over this forum, and have read alot which seems to "Persicute" women, just because thats how they were born.

We do not persecute women! Who told you we did? Women are vital for making a New Generation of Godly Christian Soldiers. We do, however, follow Christian guidelines for treating women.

In a modern day and age when a woman can be the head of a company just as much as a man, how is it that your teachings persicute women still.

You must understand, when God created the woman, He had a Purpose for her. He gave us guidelines so that the woman could fulfill her Purpose. To me, allowing women to be the head of a company is real persecution of a woman, as you take away her femininity by letting her do the work of a man.

3) How was you brought into this belief? Born, parents, friends, seeking spiritual guidence. Etc etc.

I believe in Jesus because rationality and common sense do not allow otherwise.

Btw. Have you thought about accepting Jesus yet as your Personal Lord and Saviour™? It's really hot in Hell, you know.

[Caboose]

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God=Life, Thank you for your input. Im glad that some one made a decent contribution.

I was not looking to insult/slander and im sorry that some of you felt that way. But trying to break down every little thing that was an inconsistency with my original post is a little childish. It was written on the fly as i needed to be some where.

Yes the "Internet" was an American invention. It was originally used as a method of communication by the US government. A British scientist saw the potential and took it and implemented it world wide.

This is not about the teachings of the bible. This is about people interpretations, and their views of the bible.

I still cannot understand why you are so defensive over your beliefs however. If some one said to me, "Evolution is all lies and fake" my response would be, "Your entitled to your own opinion"

Annnnd yes to all those people who have taken the first attack against myself, i beg to ask why. Because i am simply interested in what you believe?

No, i cannot predict the future, but i shall never believe in religion, as, well... its against my beliefs i suppose. If i asked you," will you believe is your religion till the day you die?" and you said yes... what would your response be?

I am gaining a Herpetology Degree at University, however i had more classes that i could attend so i took Multi-cultural and Religious Beliefs.

If any one would like to PM me with their views, I’d be most grateful. I have been amazed that trying to get good substance out of people is like trying to get blood out of a stone, so god=life, I thank you for your input! Sincerely.
I am expected to get some slander for this however; I would like to hear a woman’s side of this, and how they really feel. I would not reveal anything. Merely be gracious for a perspective from the man and woman.
Thank you to any further contributions, please, don’t try with the insults, they just don’t work.

Caboose

[Mrs. Rogers]

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I would like to hear a woman’s side of this, and how they really feel. I would not reveal anything.

On behalf of the Christian ladies here, I will let you know that we do not converse via private message with strangers -- especially strangers who are men. Anything you wish to ask us you can ask here, in front of the our Christian men.

What would you like to know?

[Caboose]

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i would like to know if you have any... changes... would you like things to be different. But i know that none would openly admit it.

I had a reply from a muslim woman who hated it, she followed her husband because of fears that he'd kill/seriously hurt her, she put alot of trust in me, and i stood by my word, not a thing was mentioned on the forums.

Its for another side of the coin, otherwise i'm going to have to speculate.

[GOD=life]

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Caboose, like I said in another thread: I respect your research, but at the same time you yourself express quite a bit of bias. You give off the strong impression that you see us as backwards and that our women are supressed like muslim women.

So it seems you already have your opinion ready. That's not the objective attitude one would expect from an honest observer.

If you are honestly interested in researching the Bible and our Church, then please do so, but then don't share your own opinion. People who read your paper aren't interested in how you feel about the Bible. Let them make up their own minds. Don't treat your readers like children.