[ilovetehjeesus]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

And this is not denied by us in any way. The problem is that secular law does not allow it yet and the Bible is unequivocally clear that we should abide by secular law.

We are working on the solution. In 2012, Sister Palin and Mike Huckabee will be elected and they will amend the US Constitution to Biblical standards including Leviticus. Only then will killing homosexuals be allowed.

So what you're saying is that, not only does the [IMG]file:///C:/Users/ZACKGO%7E1/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-7.png[/IMG]Bible specifically say that you should follow secular law, but you should put it ahead of the instructions of God? Is there a verse in which this is outlined?

You understand it cannot merely be a paraphrasing of "follow the secular law", there must be some depiction of value; there needs to be a evident and clear instruction that Christians should follow the secular law even if it contradicts other Godly demands.

And, though you may profess this will happen, both the American government and American public would never willingly allow the mass extermination of the second most prominent American sexuality.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

We have no proof that the people who wrote the bible were "divinely" inspired. No, facts whatsoever.

Of course we do have proof: Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

[Coma Black]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

If you dictate a letter to your secretary, is it her letter or yours? Same with the Bible. The KJV 1611 Bible was dictated by God. The others are corruptions. It's very simple as Mr. Man already demonstrated.





Are you telling a Christian that Christianity is a religion?

We have no proof that the people who wrote the bible were "divinely" inspired. No, facts whatsoever. Your version of the bible was edited and some things were added to it by King James. So if any man or person in power can edit it or add stuff to it because they say they were simply inspired by "god" then that just makes the bible full of sh**. Yes I am telling you that it is a religion because that is what it is. Just thought I would let you know that I was once a Christian.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

I know full well that you're suggesting that True Christians don't pick and choose, but the very fact that you're not killing the homosexuals as the KJV1611 Bible clearly states is a testament to the fallacies of your argument. That's all well and good if the Bible tells you to 'cure gays' but it also tells you to kill them.

Since you only read some small parts of the Bible you clearly do not know what you are talking about. Either you read 1 Peter 2:13-17 and Romans 13:1-7 and you figure out how it works or you ignore it and you will never understand and burn in hell. The choice is up to you.

[GOD=life]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

As if breaking an arbitrary rule here would be anything to get upset about.

If we are going to follow the entire Bible and do so literally, then making sure we are following the correct Bible seems rather more important than "arbitrary". We are serious about God's Word.

I don't know what you were trying to accomplish quoting the 'correct' Bible verse,...

We are about using the correct Bible so that we can follow correct argumentation and arrive at a correct conclusion. Otherwise we're just wasting time here, aren't we?

the crux of my argument is that the Bible, KJV 1611 version or not, is telling you to kill homosexuals.

And this is not denied by us in any way. The problem is that secular law does not allow it yet and the Bible is unequivocally clear that we should abide by secular law.

We are working on the solution. In 2012, Sister Palin and Mike Huckabee will be elected and they will amend the US Constitution to Biblical standards including Leviticus. Only then will killing homosexuals be allowed.

In fact, you just increased the power of my argument.

My commentary is guided by my intellectual integrity, not by a perceived advantage in rational discourse.

If you so say that 'abomination' carries the clear weight of God's condemnation, then there is no dispute as to who's telling you to kill homosexuals.

That is correct, but as I've explained, it is not possible at this point in time. It should be possible around 2013 or 2014, however. As I said: we are working on it.

It's God, simple as that. So hop to it.

Well, you are the one telling us to kill homosexuals here. Doing so means that you are in violation of secular law and could be arrested for this reason.

[ilovetehjeesus]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

You can't just pick a single piece out of the Holy Bible. First of all we prefer to cure gays instead of killing them. We have several cured gays in our Church. Also you seem to be completely ignoring 1 Peter 2:13-17 and Romans 13:1-7. That is not how it works. The Holy Bible is not some buffet you can pick and choose from. You have to look at everything. You also have to use the right version of the Holy Bible. You seem to be using the NIV. You should be using the KJV1611. Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

I know full well that you're suggesting that True Christians don't pick and choose, but the very fact that you're not killing the homosexuals as the KJV1611 Bible clearly states is a testament to the fallacies of your argument. That's all well and good if the Bible tells you to 'cure gays' but it also tells you to kill them.

What do you do? How can you simply choose one or the other? The Bible tells you to do both, but since killing a gay person and 'making them heterosexual' are mutually exclusive, it is impossible to follow every demand of God, and you certainly cannot truly call yourself a True Christian.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

I don't know what you were trying to accomplish quoting the 'correct' Bible verse, but the aspect that I was trying to highlight is still embarrassingly present in the KJV 1611 version. Whether what they did was 'detestable' or an abomination' is not even relevant; the crux of my argument is that the Bible, KJV 1611 version or not, is telling you to kill homosexuals.

In fact, you just increased the power of my argument. If you so say that 'abomination' carries the clear weight of God's condemnation, then there is no dispute as to who's telling you to kill homosexuals. It's God, simple as that. So hop to it.

You can't just pick a single piece out of the Holy Bible. First of all we prefer to cure gays instead of killing them. We have several cured gays in our Church. Also you seem to be completely ignoring 1 Peter 2:13-17 and Romans 13:1-7. That is not how it works. The Holy Bible is not some buffet you can pick and choose from. You have to look at everything. You also have to use the right version of the Holy Bible. You seem to be using the NIV. You should be using the KJV1611. Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

[ilovetehjeesus]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

We ONLY quote from the KJV 1611 Bible, friend. Your corrupted verse has no value here and you will possibly receive an infraction (and don't cry about it, because this is mentioned in numerous places). The CORRECT quote is:

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Interesting change of words, wouldn't you say? The word "abomination" carries the clear weight of God's condemnation, while "detestable" could be anything, even things that aren't sinful.

I will leave the complete destruction of your "argument" to Mr. Man.

As if breaking an arbitrary rule here would be anything to get upset about.

I don't know what you were trying to accomplish quoting the 'correct' Bible verse, but the aspect that I was trying to highlight is still embarrassingly present in the KJV 1611 version. Whether what they did was 'detestable' or an abomination' is not even relevant; the crux of my argument is that the Bible, KJV 1611 version or not, is telling you to kill homosexuals.

In fact, you just increased the power of my argument. If you so say that 'abomination' carries the clear weight of God's condemnation, then there is no dispute as to who's telling you to kill homosexuals. It's God, simple as that. So hop to it.

[GOD=life]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

Man has written each and every bible out there.

If you dictate a letter to your secretary, is it her letter or yours? Same with the Bible. The KJV 1611 Bible was dictated by God. The others are corruptions. It's very simple as Mr. Man already demonstrated.

So therefore...

Hold on a second. Your "therefore" follows a premise that is not undisputed. Any conclusion that flows out of this is a permutation of your opinion, not of proven fact.

And do not tell me that this is not a religion because you are in a relgion called Christianity.

Are you telling a Christian that Christianity is a religion?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

Okay, great. Let's take a look at Leviticus 20:13. 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. ... So which is it? Will you go out and hunt gays ...

You can't just pick a single piece out of the Holy Bible. First of all we prefer to cure gays instead of killing them. We have several cured gays in our Church. Also you seem to be completely ignoring 1 Peter 2:13-17 and Romans 13:1-7. That is not how it works. The Holy Bible is not some buffet you can pick and choose from. You have to look at everything. You also have to use the right version of the Holy Bible. You seem to be using the NIV. You should be using the KJV1611. Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

[Coma Black]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

.Let's cut to the chase: GOD said that the KJV 1611 Bible is made of facts. Since God made the entire universe with everyone in it, we would prefer to follow God's Word where it concerns the Bible, not yours.



That's your fault. Every new member is supposed to make a thread in the Introductions forum to introduce themselves. Let us get to know you, friend.

If you let the love in, the hate will be automatically pushed out.

Knock, knock. Let us in, it's cold outside.

Man has written each and every bible out there. So therefore man says that "god" says the bible is made of facts. Why did man do this? Control. I took Sociology and relgion is a set of beliefs. And do not tell me that this is not a religion because you are in a relgion called Christianity.

[GOD=life]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

We ONLY quote from the KJV 1611 Bible, friend. Your corrupted verse has no value here and you will possibly receive an infraction (and don't cry about it, because this is mentioned in numerous places). The CORRECT quote is:

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Interesting change of words, wouldn't you say? The word "abomination" carries the clear weight of God's condemnation, while "detestable" could be anything, even things that aren't sinful.

I will leave the complete destruction of your "argument" to Mr. Man.

Oh wait, I forgot about Matthew 18:18.

Please spare us. If you're going to quote Scripture, use the CORRECT Bible version!

[ilovetehjeesus]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

We True Christians™ follow the entire Holy Bible. Not just the fluffy parts.

Why you need to follow the entire KJV1611 Holy Bible: 2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

Okay, great. Let's take a look at Leviticus 20:13.

'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Think about it. Out there, in the great expanse there could be thousands, dare I say millions of gay people, walking about without a care in the world. Now, being a True Christian and all, is it not your duty to adhere to this instruction, given to you by God, and go kill all these gay people where they hand? I mean, it's only logical to assume that a large majority of them are sexually active and partake in homosexual relations. So why aren't you out homo-hunting, Cranky Old Man? It's not like our human laws should be of any worry to you, your soul will be free and God will embrace you in the kingdom of Heaven.

Oh wait, I forgot about Matthew 18:18.

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Oops. I guess this means you can't kill all the gay people. What a shame. Unfortunately, this would also mean I wouldn't go to Hell, as I have yet to commit a sin that's recognized by the judicial system, and we all know how many times I've been told that I would go to Hell.

So which is it? Will you go out and hunt gays, or will I and many others - unsaved Heathen trash - get into Heaven?

[GOD=life]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

Like I said the bible is not made of facts.

Circular reasoning: base the fact that the Bible is not made of facts on your own assessment that it's not made of facts, which in turn is based on it not being based on facts, etc, etc.

Let's cut to the chase: GOD said that the KJV 1611 Bible is made of facts. Since God made the entire universe with everyone in it, we would prefer to follow God's Word where it concerns the Bible, not yours.

I will not repeat this again.

Thank you!

Here we go with the assumptions again. You do not know me.

That's your fault. Every new member is supposed to make a thread in the Introductions forum to introduce themselves. Let us get to know you, friend.

If you let the love in, the hate will be automatically pushed out.

Knock, knock. Let us in, it's cold outside.

[Coma Black]

Re: Wow guys REAL mature

You hide that very well it seems.

Of course not, we prefer reading the Holy Bible instead of your mindless babbling.

It is you who makes herself look stupid by ignoring all the facts in the Holy Bible.

Your obsession with porn is getting the better of you. To make sure you stop staring at porn you now have to poke your own eyes out! The Bible is very clear on that: Mark 9:47 "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire". Since you can still see porn with one eye, you will have to poke both of them out.

You are probably also an obsessive compulsive masturbator. The Bible is very clear on what you have to do about that. You have to rent a chainsaw and remove your hand! Mark 9:43 "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched". To be on the safe side you might want to remove both hands.

And after you poked your eyes out and removed your hands you have to start reading your KJV1611 Holy Bible to prevent eternal damnation to hell .

Like I said the bible is not made of facts. I will not repeat this again. What I have said in previous posts is not babbling. Here we go with the assumptions again. You do not know me. If I did do any of those things I will never mutilate myself just because you bible says so.