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It said General forum so I figured it was for everything feel free to move it as you please.
Of course I have read the Bible. the Old Tesemant was filled with Vengeful God. Please tell me what God said to Noha after he floded the world.
When Noah came out of the ark, one of the first things he did was build an altar on the mountain side.
He gave an offering to God.
When Noah looked up he saw a beautiful sight.
God had placed a rainbow of beautiful colors in the sky. "I will never again send flood waters to cover the earth," God promised. "Whenever you look up and see a rainbow in the sky it will remind you of my promise."
years later when we broke our promis again Instead of sending a flood, God sent us his Son, Jesus Christ. The loving and forgiving God we first saw when he showed mercy on Noah’s family, is made flesh and came and lived among us. There was not a vengeful bone in this man’s body. He shone with God’s mercy to the point that he allowed himself to be crucified without cursing those who did it to him. Instead he cried on the cross, “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” This truly was the Son of God. For us, Jesus shines brighter than the rainbow as a reminder of God’s faithfulness.
If you would like me to find the passages for you I can but you have read the bible so you know where it is.
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I agree, but we're no longer doling out whippings if the fluffy bunnies want to use other translations. It can make for good analysis and cautionary tales against using false versions.
Maybe you could move this thread over there, dearest one or just leave it as is? The false Christian and I are having such a nice talk.Originally posted by Felicity View PostIt would be great if you could make a thread of your own in the introductions section of the forum! That way everyone here can meet you and see how much you love Jesus!
I'll call you to set up a prayer meeting for this one's soul.
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Mr. IBelive [sic],
There is no need for you to forgive us, because as True Christians™ who follow the entire Bible - not just the feel-good reaffirming parts - we have already been Saved® and live our lives sin-free.
Psalm 119:1-3
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
I John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
John 8:11
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
II Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Now, if you had met me 7 years ago when I was effeminate and drifting toward the homosexual deathstyle due to my estrangement from the LORD, you could (and should) have rightly rebuked me. But now, I am a blood-bought child of the King, living by the Holy Word, and it is not possible for me to sin!
Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
It seems that you mistake our True Christian Love™ for hatred. Our words may seem harsh, but this is because bringing unsaved trash to Jesus is no laughing matter. If your house was burning down while you slept inside, would you rather me limp-wristedly tap your door saying "Excuse me, Mr. IBelive [sic]. I think it would be a good idea for you to come outside." Or would you rather me go to your bedroom window, bust it out with a hammer, and yell at you with a bullhorn - "WAKE UP IBELIVE [sic]!! YOU ARE GOING TO BURN IF YOU DON'T CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!"
People like yourself don't like to see a True Christian™ coming, because you think we're all gloom and doom, and you don't like it when your sin and your distance from the LORD is illuminated. But the fact of the matter is that we are bringing you a message of pure love. We want you to join us in Heaven, IBelive [sic]!! We don't want you to follow a false Christ and believe in a false doctrine of your own imagination! We exhort you to live your life by every word God has given us in the KJV 1611, not just the parts that are easy to follow.
The reason you do not recognize our True Christian Love™ for what it is is because the devil yet stands between you and your Creator. You lack the discernment to recognize Jesus' elect when you meet us, and you presume to rebuke those who are already Saved® out of some sense of obligation deriving from your false doctrine.
Please study the Holy Bible, and live by it. When you are ready to be civil and accept the guidance of our Pastors and the fellowship of the Brothers and Sisters, we will be here. And we forgive you.
YIC
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Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.Originally posted by IBelive View Post(Luke 6:27-37) 27 “But I tell you who hear: love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, and pray for those who mistreat you. 29 To him who strikes you on the cheek, offer also the other; and from him who takes away your cloak, don’t withhold your coat also. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and don’t ask him who takes away your goods to give them back again. 31 “As you would like people to do to you, do exactly so to them. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 If you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive back as much. 35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing back; and your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High; for he is kind toward the unthankful and evil. 36 Therefore be merciful, even as your Father is also merciful. 37 Don’t judge, and you won’t be judged. Don’t condemn, and you won’t be condemned. Set free, and you will be set free
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Do you people not know how to use a search button? Do you think you're the first fluffy bunny lieberal false Christian to show up here?
Have you read the entire Bible? Jesus was no peace loving hippie who sat around saying "it's all good".
Please read this thread
Jesus was impolite
It will probably be a real eye opener for you.
As for loving our enemies, I do not see homosexuals as "the enemy". I see them as misguided souls that Satan is leading down the path to hell. What we practice here is tough love. If your child was about to touch a hot element on a stove, would you just let him do it? Or would you yell at him, hopefully startling him out of his dangerous act?
To be honest, I have more hope for an atheist homosexual than I do for liebral Christians. At least they know they're living a sinful life. You people just take whiteout to the Bible and then say that you're following Jesus.
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Don't get me wrong please, I hold no grudge against any of you. My comments are not ment to be inflammatory in any way. I love you all and I leave you with this scripture I hope you will read and take to heart. For your reference I am a strait white man of age 32.
And thank you for your forgiveness
(I Peter 3:9) 9 not rendering evil for evil, or insult for insult; but instead blessing; knowing that to this were you called, that you may inherit a blessing.
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@IBelive You should use the #KJV1611! #Luke 6:27-37
It would be great if you could make a thread of your own in the introductions section of the forum! That way everyone here can meet you and see how much you love Jesus!
Since you are new here please look at our please read this before posting and our your rights on this forum threads! There you can learn that this forum is not about debating or unsaved opinions but about praising Jesus!
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I do, but it's not up to me. Paul clearly states they are worthy of death. Not only those who practice it, but those who support it as well. I'm all in favor of reforming them and making them ex-gay, but that's not what the Bible says inOriginally posted by IBelive View PostDo you not forgive non ex-homosexuals?
Romans 1:26-28, 32
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Amen, but didn't you read the parts about rebuking them before all and scourging? Are you trying to say the Bible is contradictory in parts?Originally posted by IBelive View Post(Romans 12:19-21) 19 Don’t seek revenge yourselves, beloved, but give place to God’s wrath. For it is written, “Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in doing so, you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Don’t be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
I am trying to understand yours as well. We read the whole Bible not just the parts that are convenient or fit our notions. For instance when the Bible says,Originally posted by IBelive View PostDont get me wrong here, I am trying to understand your point of view, for it is my job as a Christian to do so without hate or bias.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
I don't question it. I simply understand that what might seem like love to me may not be the same thing to an immortal being. I simply have to obey without question.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,Originally posted by IBelive View PostI point you to your signature about the MAC computer. There is a lot of hatefull statements towards gays.
1st Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
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(Luke 6:27-37) 27 “But I tell you who hear: love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, and pray for those who mistreat you. 29 To him who strikes you on the cheek, offer also the other; and from him who takes away your cloak, don’t withhold your coat also. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and don’t ask him who takes away your goods to give them back again. 31 “As you would like people to do to you, do exactly so to them. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 If you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive back as much. 35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing back; and your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High; for he is kind toward the unthankful and evil. 36 Therefore be merciful, even as your Father is also merciful. 37 Don’t judge, and you won’t be judged. Don’t condemn, and you won’t be condemned. Set free, and you will be set free
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[QUOTE=IBelive;527093]This is what god says about LBC words of hate toward other people. You wanted Scripture to back it up..... Lets see you twist the words of God to fit what you think to be the truth and I will give you all the scripture you can handle about that as well....
Psalm 139:21-23 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?Originally posted by IBelive View Post(Psalms 37:8) 8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath. Don’t fret, it leads only to evildoing.
I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.Originally posted by IBelive View Post(II Timothy 2:24) 24 The Lord’s servant must not quarrel, but be gentle toward all, able to teach, patient,
(Ephesians 4:31) 31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, outcry, and slander, be put away from you, with all malice.
Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.Originally posted by IBelive View Post(I Timothy 2:8) 8 I desire therefore that the men in every place pray, lifting up holy hands without anger and doubting.
Ecclesiastes 4:5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.Originally posted by IBelive View Post(Ephesians 4:29) 29 Let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth, but such as is good for building up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear.
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:Originally posted by IBelive View Post(James 1:19-20) 19 So, then, my beloved brothers, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger; 20 for the anger of man doesn’t produce the righteousness of God.
Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Deuteronomy 7:2-3 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.Originally posted by IBelive View PostMatthew 5:7) 7 Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.
Matthew 12 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.Originally posted by IBelive View Post(Ephesians 4:32) 32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other, just as God also in Christ forgave you.
I forgive you too.Originally posted by IBelive View PostI forgive you all.
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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.Originally posted by IBelive View PostIts a test you are dangerously close to failing.
Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.
Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .
Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
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Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
Hebrews 12:5-8 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
That's a complete and total lie. We take works very strongly at this church. We put on a free summer camp, we sponsor underprivileged black children, we have an ex-homosexual ministry.
What more do you want from us and we also don't allow racism here. We abhor it. If you see any, please contact a staff member at once.
Do you not forgive non ex-homosexuals?
(Romans 12:19-21) 19 Don’t seek revenge yourselves, beloved, but give place to God’s wrath. For it is written, “Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in doing so, you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Don’t be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Dont get me wrong here, I am trying to understand your point of view, for it is my job as a Christian to do so without hate or bias.
I point you to your signature about the MAC computer. There is a lot of hatefull statements towards gays.
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What does "I belive" mean? I'm not familiar with the verb "belive."
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