Flame the Fires so to speak.

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I was hoping to show your people that you are doing exact what you tell others they are doing in the last thread i made but none of you understood this. You are all sinners and I can prove it.

do you supply coffee to your church on Sunday?
you are sinners if you do.

Do you supply donuts on Sunday?
you are sinners if so.

do any of you partake in using a public rest room?
if so you are sinners

do any of you hold up the American flag?
if so you are sinners

these are just a couple of ways you sin in your every day life. I hope you ask me why I feel this way.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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I was hoping to show your people that you are doing exact what you tell others they are doing in the last thread i made but none of you understood this. You are all sinners and I can prove it.

do you supply coffee to your church on Sunday?
you are sinners if you do.

Do you supply donuts on Sunday?
you are sinners if so.

do any of you partake in using a public rest room?
if so you are sinners

do any of you hold up the American flag?
if so you are sinners

these are just a couple of ways you sin in your every day life. I hope you ask me why I feel this way.

Listen my unsaved friend, just post the scripture to back up your ridiculous claims and then we can point out to you how wrong you are.

Oh, and welcome to our Holy forum.

[BelieverInGod]

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I was hoping to show your people that you are doing exact what you tell others they are doing in the last thread i made but none of you understood this. You are all sinners and I can prove it.

do you supply coffee to your church on Sunday?
you are sinners if you do.

Are you Mormon?

Do you supply donuts on Sunday?
you are sinners if so.

Are you seventh day?

do any of you partake in using a public rest room?
if so you are sinners

Uh....... exactly how is this a sin? Should I be peeing myself in public instead?

do any of you hold up the American flag?
if so you are sinners

Are you a JW?

these are just a couple of ways you sin in your every day life. I hope you ask me why I feel this way.

And I assume you can back this up with scripture?

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well for one if you hold out the American flag you are violating one of Gods 10 comandments... hello isn't that obvious?

8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth

If you use a public rest room you are tempted by the devil to be gay simple as that..


coffee is a stimulant and it affects your cardio system and your mind.... Helloooo how can you be close to God when your heart is racing while you think unclear??

donuts are just plain glutinous..




Seee I can sound just as crazy as you all,,,, I bet you even thought they where good ideas to didn't you hahaha.

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wow I am amazed no retort from anyone?

I will put this test to you as "True Christians" then and please forget about my last post final comment. I know your response will be ,,, well we are true Christians and we don't have to take a non believer scums tests.

But for the sake of Argument and by your own fight do me this one mercy. Pretend you are wrong for a moment about you not hatting anyone because God told you its "OK" and You are the saved ones.

And say I believe that your word is like the word of God himself and that you are correct just to be fair.

Does not the fluffy bunny stuff you say most Christan's take from the bible (white out) so to speak,,, If it is in the bible does it not make those things a part of the bible which you are supposed to follow? Arnt you nit picking what you want to read by not accepting the "fluffy crap in the bible"

I know, I'm unsaved trash and my opinion does not count.

By this thinking,,, if this where not an exercise you would be a sinner just by not taking the whole bible to heart,,, even the fluffy bunny crap.

Quote:
"Good and evil is in everyone. The line between the two is easy to step on. Who do you step on to get to heven?"
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[PThorne]

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well for one if you hold out the American flag you are violating one of Gods 10 comandments... hello isn't that obvious?

8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth

If you use a public rest room you are tempted by the devil to be gay simple as that..


coffee is a stimulant and it affects your cardio system and your mind.... Helloooo how can you be close to God when your heart is racing while you think unclear??

donuts are just plain glutinous..




Seee I can sound just as crazy as you all,,,, I bet you even thought they where good ideas to didn't you hahaha.

Are you Catholick?

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Are you Catholick?

Ill tell you what I am in time. But No I am not Catholic.

[PThorne]

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Obviously your not Baptist so therefore you are a sinner and are going to hell. I would be more worried about getting saved then worring about if we serve donuts and coffee to the morning congregation. Repent before its too late.

[Levi Jones]

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wow I am amazed no retort from anyone?

I will put this test to you as "True Christians" then and please forget about my last post final comment. I know your response will be ,,, well we are true Christians and we don't have to take a non believer scums tests.

Wrong, I will tell you,

We are True Christians and we don't have to take a test from non-believing scum.

But for the sake of Argument and by your own fight do me this one mercy. Pretend you are wrong for a moment about you not hatting anyone because God told you its "OK" and You are the saved ones.

Nice attempt at a strawman. We don't hate anyone. We love everyone and we want to save their soul.

And say I believe that your word is like the word of God himself

Friend, we are not the authority. God's Holy Word is. We only teach what is there.

Does not the fluffy bunny stuff you say most Christan's take from the bible (white out) so to speak,,, If it is in the bible does it not make those things a part of the bible which you are supposed to follow? Arnt you nit picking what you want to read by not accepting the "fluffy crap in the bible"

Who is nitpicking? Are you saying the Bible somehow contradicts itself?

I know, I'm unsaved trash and my opinion does not count.

So true.

By this thinking,,, if this where not an exercise you would be a sinner just by not taking the whole bible to heart,,, even the fluffy bunny crap.

We do take the whole thing. We are kind, loving, merciful and forgiving to our brothers and sisters.

[Jedediah]

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Son, you make a lot of wild claims without providing any Scripture to back them up. Sure, at one time before accepting His gift, freely given, of eternal life, we had sinned. Before anyone becomes a True Christian™, they are a sinner.

Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Proverbs 20:9
Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

However, once we accept Jesus as our personal LORD and Savior and glorify Him by following His Word exactly as He gave it to us in the KJV 1611, we are the blood-bought children of the King.

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

I John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

As blood-bought children of God, we are not sinners. The Bible tells us so, and we know in our hearts that this is so. If you do not know this in your heart, it is likely because you are still fast-tracking it to hell because you follow false doctrine and worship a false Christ who it no more than a demon who is successfully fooling you. But we True Christians no longer sin, and our past sins have been forgiven.

Psalm 119:1-3
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD. Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

I John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

II Corinthians 5:7
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Colossians 2:13-14
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Revelation 1:5
And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Indeed, as True Christians™, as children of God, the LORD tells us in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) that we cannot sin! Glory!

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth

Philippians 2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

So as you can see, when you criticize us, you are really criticizing God and saying that His commandments do not apply to you.

"But Mr. Jedediah, what about John 3:16? But Mr. Jedediah, we are supposed to love everybody and tell them that everything is going to be okay and that they can continue to do as they please and God will forgive them even if they don't follow His Word exactly as given in the Bible."

Son, you are going to slide to hell on your "buts" if you keep it up with your false doctrine. As a false Christian who does not keep His entire Word, you have no concept of God's love.

1 John 2:5
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of Godperfected : hereby know we that we are in him.

This is why you lack the discernment to recognize True Christian Love™ when you see it. All you see are a bunch of angry Baptists telling unsaved trash they are going to hell, but if only you had eyes with which to see... If only you would not shut your ears to the Word... you would recognize that our love is a pure love.

If we did not love you, why are we rebuking you? If we did not love you, the easiest thing for us to do would be to say nothing to you and let you continue on your way to hell. After all, we are guaranteed a place in Heaven, in the bosom of Christ. What's it to us if IBelive goes to hell? Well, I'll tell you, son. We love you. We love you with pure True Christian Love™, and we want you to spend eternity with us in Heaven. The best medicine does not always taste good, but once you wash down the pure, unadulterated Word of God we preach at Landover Baptist, you too will be without sin.

Jesus loves you, we love you, and we want you to join us. I will pray for you.

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Its interesting that you would say "We are kind, loving, merciful and forgiving to our brothers and sisters.

Does it not say do this for your enemies as well as your brothers. And If I do not fall under on of those categories what am I to you?

the devil will try and trick you by changing the words of God to do his bidding as he did to Adam And Eve. (I'm sure you can find what he said yourself)


If by default you can no longer sin, then in theory you can go out and commit murder for any cause you see fit and because you believe in the word of God as a whole you would be saved? So you give yourself the ability to say and do whatever you want without damnation.
Is this not the way the devil convinced Adam to take the first bite?

[Levi Jones]

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Its interesting that you would say "We are kind, loving, merciful and forgiving to our brothers and sisters.

Does it not say do this for your enemies as well as your brothers. And If I do not fall under on of those categories what am I to you?

Of course we love our enemies. That's why we reach out to try and save them. Love your enemies is in Luke 6. If we were to go on continuing to coddle them, why does Luke write in chapter 9, And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them?

the devil will try and trick you by changing the words of God to do his bidding as he did to Adam And Eve. (I'm sure you can find what he said yourself)

Perhaps as satan has fooled you?

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

If by default you can no longer sin, then in theory you can go out and commit murder for any cause you see fit and because you believe in the word of God as a whole you would be saved?

Wow, you are dense. Did you not read what brother Jedediah wrote on that subject? If one of us did commit murder, it would be against the laws of man. We are instructed to follow the laws of man. By committing murder, it would mean that person was never saved to begin with.

So you give yourself the ability to say and do whatever you want without damnation.

Of course not. Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Is this not the way the devil convinced Adam to take the first bite?

This is too typical of false Christians. They don't even know what the Bible says in Genesis. The devil didn't convince Adam to do anything.

Does your ignorance of the Bible hurt or is it truly bliss?

[IBelive]

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Ok let me put my "view" in a way for me to be understood that I don't think I'm getting across..

Lets say a boy age 13 is ridiculed for 5 years on end by his class mates never have been taught the correct way to deal with it (spiritually or otherwise) and decides he can no longer take the abuse. He goes to his fathers gun cabinet and pulls out a Ruger ranch rifle and takes it to school. He then proceeds to shoot 15 children and teachers.

Now this boy had he been taught spiritually or otherwise may have had a chance to deal with this situation. Now the act of Murder itself its bad and the boy should be punished for the crime but the cause of the boys breakdown was in fact the ridicule he received for 5 years. In Gods eyes shouldn't the ridiculer's be punished for the same crime?

You call it tough love I call it Accessory to whatever comes from it. If a person goes ,,,, well lets put it to the test,,, there is a thread on your forums about how the oil spill in the golf was a "God send" and the shrimpers are being punished. Now picture one of those shrimpers See's these comments. He has lost his family business, his home, his land is corrupted for ever and your comments send him over the edge. He then proceeds to ,after reading your "Tough love" takes a gun to a pre school and kills 6 four year olds.

another scenario. A gay person that has been taunted for years sees a "unnamed" church protesting at the funerals of fallen service members. He then goes looking for the website of this church and finds yours instead. It says basically the same thing he was looking for and decides to retaliate not knowing your real point of views.

These are just scenario's BTW don't worry I have no malice toward you or your church.

But you can see my point I hope that Tough love or what ever you want to call it can be translated in to hate and then in turn breed hate and violence and a number of things evil making you by societies definition (Mans Law) as much at fault as the person committing the act.

I may be dense but I can obviously still see truth.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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About 100 Kinds of Crazy

Wow, when I first answered you at the beginning of this thread, I had no idea you were such a nutjob. I feel sorry for you and your whole "going to Hell" situation.