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  • SalvationSeeker
    True Christian™ Theologian
    Forum Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 3892

    #31
    Re: Father Thomas Martin

    Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
    John 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

    He was talking about the "disciple" (commonly believed to be John), and thus entrusting his Church to the Blessed Mother's care.
    Get your stupid story straight..
    Do you claim your false church is founded on Peter, or on Mary, or on John?

    As for us, our Church is founded on the teachings of Jesus -
    And the FAITH that Peter had, which is what earned him the name of rock. (ie Peter)
    His faith was the rock, and by it He was given authority by God.
    BUT GOD NEVER SAID THAT THIS "OFFICE" SHOULD BE PASSED ON!
    ESPECIALLY NOT THROUGH HUMAN DECISIONS!


    And notice in the above verse that HE (the disciple) took HER (Mary) to HIS home!
    So rather, Jesus entrusted his mother to the disciple, not the other way around.
    How typical of you cathylicks to reverse the meaning of scripture.
    Quite literally in this case too, as in your mind, you literally reverse that last sentence!


    BTW Peter wasn't infallible. The Bible proves this. (Matthew 16:22-23)
    So how can the pope claim not only the authority of Peter, but infallability - when not even Peter was infallible?
    Try answering that, you heretic scumbag.
    Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 09-20-2007, 10:28 PM.
    If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
    A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
    Proverbs 9:12-13

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    • Deaner
      Christ's Love Messenger
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 5932

      #32
      Re: Father Thomas Martin

      Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
      we just see her for who she is; a way for us to be closer to her Son.
      Is it just me, or is anybody else creeped out by that statement?

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      • Maxwell
        Unsaved trash
        Under Investigation
        • Sep 2007
        • 9

        #33
        Re: Father Thomas Martin

        Originally posted by Deaner View Post
        Is it just me, or is anybody else creeped out by that statement?
        I'm not creeped out but i guess that could be just me.... i don't know what everyone else thinks....
        Gott mit uns.

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        • Brother Temperance
          Senior Usher
          True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
          A very nice young man
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 15621

          #34
          Re: Father Thomas Martin

          Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
          "His hour" meant his Passion.

          Right after that, she told the crowds (her last words in the Bible)

          "Do whatever He tells you."
          And? You're saying that we should worship Mary because she tells us to do what Jesus tells us to do? I say you should do whatever He tells you to do as well, are you going to start praying to me now?
          O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



          God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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          • Pastor Al E Pistle
            Christ's Cōnsiliārius
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 9323

            #35
            Why Catlicks are doomed to failure.

            1 Salvation Through The Church
            2 Salvation Through Good Works
            3 The Church Forgives Sins
            4 The One True Church
            5 Baptism Saves
            6 The Pope: Vicar of Christ
            7 The Pope: Infallible
            8 The Sacraments Save
            9 The Sin of Presumption
            10 Infant Baptism
            11 Degrees of Sin
            12 Transubstantiation
            13 Eucharist: Preserves from Sin
            14 Eucharist: Helps the Dead
            15 Mary Saves
            16 Mary: Saved from Birth
            17 Mary: Perpetual Virgin
            18 Mary: Source of Holiness
            19 Mary: The Intercessor
            20 Mary: Recipient of Prayers
            21 Mary: Queen Over All Things
            22 The Mass
            23 Purgatory
            24 Praying to Saints
            25 Praying for the Dead
            26 Statues
            27 Confirmation
            28 Confessing Sins to a Priest
            29 Indulgences
            30 Interpreting God' s Word
            31 Catholic Prayer
            32 Penance
            33 Are Catholics Christ?
            34 Could 850 Million Catholics be Wrong?
            35 Reconciliation
            36 Celibacy
            37 Last Rites
            Appendix 1 Confusion
            Appendix 2 An Invitation
            Appendix 3 God' s Plea
            Appendix 4 Liberty or Bondage?
            Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
            "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
            Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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