[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

Of course the Bible is the best guide on that. However, most examples you give (like Proverbs 7:18) are explicitly condemning the acts described. If you want to know what the bible really teaches about such issues, look at this Passage:

Leviticus 20:10:
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Right, but what do Levitical laws have to do with Christians? You don't eat porkchops either?

-"Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine." A fitting beginning for a pornographic poem. The Song of Solomon is either a song about Solomon's sexual escapades with a woman he apparently is not married to yet, or else a story about Jesus' love for his Church, and his deeply erotic interest in Christians.

-"He [JESUS] shall lie all night betwixt my [the Church's] breasts."

-"I[the Church] sat down under his [JESUS'] shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste."

-"His [Jesus'] left hand is under my [the Church's] head and his right hand doth embrace me." She asks not to be disturbed "till he please."

-Our heroine [the Church] takes her lover [Jesus] into her mother's bedroom and asks not to be disturbed "till he please."

-"Thy [the Church's] two breasts are like two young roes that are twins." - says Jesus.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

I'm simply trying to understand why the Bible spends so much time describing all of these sordid sexual affairs.

Who are you to question the Lord's priorities?

[True Disciple]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

I'm simply trying to understand why the Bible spends so much time describing all of these sordid sexual affairs. Is this a guide to how we are supposed to act?

-Proverbs 7:18 describes the "immoral woman", who says, "Come let us take our fill of love until the morning."

-One of the four "wonderful" things is the way of a man with a virgin. Proverbs 30:18-19

Of course the Bible is the best guide on that. However, most examples you give (like Proverbs 7:18) are explicitly condemning the acts described. If you want to know what the bible really teaches about such issues, look at this Passage:

Leviticus 20:10:
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

I'm simply trying to understand why the Bible spends so much time describing all of these sordid sexual affairs. Is this a guide to how we are supposed to act?

-Proverbs 7:18 describes the "immoral woman", who says, "Come let us take our fill of love until the morning."

-One of the four "wonderful" things is the way of a man with a virgin. Proverbs 30:18-19

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

I'm trying to get a discussion going about sex and the Bible, but nobody seems interested in getting in on the morality of what the Bible says on the matter.

Then discuss already. In particular, tell us how you think the morality of what the Bible says is determined. Either the Lord approves of something, in which case it's moral, or He doesn't, in which case it isn't. Surely even you, a commie atheist female, can understand that.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

I'm trying to get a discussion going about sex and the Bible, but nobody seems interested in getting in on the morality of what the Bible says on the matter.

I would be interested in discussing your Salvation(tm), but I doubt if you're going to confuse any of the True Christians(tm) here enough to get them to discuss sex with an atheist. Plus, the main idea of the Bible is Salvation(tm), not sex, so you can cherry pick the Word of God(tm) all day, but you'll never drag us down to Hell with you, Bog lady.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

I'm trying to get a discussion going about sex and the Bible, but nobody seems interested in getting in on the morality of what the Bible says on the matter.

They probably gave up 20 posting ago. Also I don't really get what you are trying to discuss. You have mostly been mentioning scripture and rewriting it in your own words.

What is it exactly that you want to discuss? If your answer is something I can understand I will try to discuss it with you.

[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

I'm trying to get a discussion going about sex and the Bible, but nobody seems interested in getting in on the morality of what the Bible says on the matter.

-The author of this psalm allegedly is David. If so, then it's not surprising that his "loins" would be "filled with a loathsome disease." After all, his promiscuity was legendary, and he probably didn't practice safe sex. Psalms 38:5, 7

-Solomon's advice to married man: "Let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love." Proverbs 5:18

[True Disciple]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

-"All the fair young virgins" throughout the kingdom are brought before the king, and the one that "pleaseth" the king the most will replace Vashti. Esther 2:2-4

-When it was Esther turn to "go in unto the king," she pleases the king the most. So, having won the sex contest, she is made queen in Vashti's place. Esther 2:8-9, 12-17

-Since women are inherently dirty, the woman that "pleased the king" the most must be "purified" for twelve months before she can be made queen. Esther 2:9-12

What exactly is your point here?

[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

-"All the fair young virgins" throughout the kingdom are brought before the king, and the one that "pleaseth" the king the most will replace Vashti. Esther 2:2-4

-When it was Esther turn to "go in unto the king," she pleases the king the most. So, having won the sex contest, she is made queen in Vashti's place. Esther 2:8-9, 12-17

-Since women are inherently dirty, the woman that "pleased the king" the most must be "purified" for twelve months before she can be made queen. Esther 2:9-12

[True Disciple]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

It's nothing to do with the atheist agenda. Believer-In-God mentioned using Blue Letter Bible earlier, well, I looked up foot in their Bible Dictionary, here: http://www.blueletterbible.org/Searc...x=45&entry.y=9

And why exactly would this "Blue Letter Bible" be a greater authority than the KJV?

But spreading your legs is itself just a euphemism for exposing your genitals.

Yes, I know that. The point is that "legs" as in "spreading the legs" does not mean "genitals," as "spreading the legs" refers to the act of physically spreading the legs. The same accounts, of course, for "opening your feet," which means moving them apart to let a fornicator in.

[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

Then how do you know when feet do mean genitals and when they don't? Now you're just arbitrarily redefining the word "feet" whenever it fits your atheist agenda.

It's nothing to do with the atheist agenda. Believer-In-God mentioned using Blue Letter Bible earlier, well, I looked up foot in their Bible Dictionary, here: http://www.blueletterbible.org/Searc...x=45&entry.y=9

"Foot" or "feet" is sometimes used euphemistically for the genitals (De 28:57; Eze 16:25).

Now, I realize that the use of the word feet in those phrase is similar to the English expression of spreading your legs. But spreading your legs is itself just a euphemism for exposing your genitals.

[True Disciple]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

Straw-man argument, ma'am. I never said ALL verses with the word feet refer to genitals. I merely stated it is accepted that feet IS used as a euphemism for it in Hebrew, but of course, it also the word for foot. You have to look in context. Just like the word "know". In the Bible, sometimes that means sex, sometimes it just means knowledge.

Then how do you know when feet do mean genitals and when they don't? Now you're just arbitrarily redefining the word "feet" whenever it fits your atheist agenda.

And actually, female genitals can be referred to as feet in the Bible, also.

Deuteronomy 28: 57And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.

I know atheists aren't the smartest bunch out there, but even you can't be that dense. Have you ever seen a woman giving birth to a child? When she does, the child comes out of her body between her legs in her pubic regions, and thus also between her feet.

Ezekiel 16:25 25Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

Same here. "Opening your feet" can be considered equivalent to "spreading your legs," engaging in prostitution. It does not imply that feet mean genitals. If it would mean anything else than feet, it would mean legs.

[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

-Jeroham "caused the inhabitants of Jerusalem to commit fornication." 2 Chronicles 21:11

-King Ahasuerus throws a party and encourages his guests to drink to excess. Then, when they are all drunk, he orders Queen Vashti to show her stuff before him and his guests. Esther 1:7-11

[Bogdana Alkeav]

Re: Let's Talk About S-E-X (Bible Style!)

Just wanted to bring this up, I was reading Proverbs today and the Lord brought me to this verse.

So according to you, every time the OT mentions feet it's talking about a mans testicles. Well explain this verse.

Straw-man argument, ma'am. I never said ALL verses with the word feet refer to genitals. I merely stated it is accepted that feet IS used as a euphemism for it in Hebrew, but of course, it also the word for foot. You have to look in context. Just like the word "know". In the Bible, sometimes that means sex, sometimes it just means knowledge.

And actually, female genitals can be referred to as feet in the Bible, also.

Deuteronomy 28: 57And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.





Ezekiel 16:25 25Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.