I'm a proud atheist

[Yhalothar]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

"It's only you who doesn't listen and probably discards those who does as lunatics, because you are closeminded."

Oh no i'm very openminded, your the closeminded one. Unfortunately for you only evidence is evidence.

"If you had actually witnessed a bear attack you wouldn't call them inefficient"

If it's a bear attack from god, then yes I would call it inefficient. Just like the other 32,000,000 of gods biblical killings, it's very inefficient.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

What a shame that god's been so quiet for the last 2000 years then.

God is most certainly not quiet.
It's only you who doesn't listen and probably discards those who does as lunatics, because you are closeminded.

So why did he use bears? Why not just pop them out of existence? This god of yours seems to be awfully inefficient.

Didn't you say I was illogical earlier? I'd like to hear how you came to such a conclusion, apparently you don't know what logic actually is.

If you had actually witnessed a bear attack you wouldn't call them inefficient..

And I'm very hurt that you think that about me. I really am.

[Yhalothar]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

"God decides what's right and wrong, NOT us."

What a shame that god's been so quiet for the last 2000 years then.

"It was GOD personally who killed those children."

So why did he use bears? Why not just pop them out of existence? This god of yours seems to be awfully inefficient.

Didn't you say I was illogical earlier? I'd like to hear how you came to such a conclusion, apparently you don't know what logic actually is.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

Also, do you think incest is immoral?

Incest became immoral once God judged it so. That's the very point we're trying to make here:
God decides what's moral and not, and if God would decide to change the laws -
Then it could become perfectly acceptable. God decides what's right and wrong, NOT us.

You wouldn't kill children for making fun a prophets baldness right?

No, cause God doesn't command us to.
It was GOD personally who killed those children.

[Yhalothar]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

"1. Christians get their moral understanding from the teachings of the Bible."

Apart from leviticus of course, and a few other questionable verses. Such as the ones in my signature. You wouldn't kill children for making fun a prophets baldness right?

"2. Since atheists have no written guidebook, from what moral wellspring do they get their moral understanding?"

Society, darwinian ancestry, I don't go around killing people and stealing things because I wouldn't like to live in a world where people went around stealing and killing.

Also, do you think incest is immoral?

[Yhalothar]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

"Just look at the 10 Commandments."

Just look at the Egyptian book of the dead.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

Well, perhaps Celeste can tell me where atheists get their moral understanding. To clarify:

1. Christians get their moral understanding from the teachings of the Bible.

2. Since atheists have no written guidebook, from what moral wellspring do they get their moral understanding?

I'm not interested at this point in slandering either side of the fence. I also believe I have some insight into the development of morality in a system of ethical atheism. I want to see what you guys know and what you don't.

~~ OEJ

[Heretic Hater]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

Most of the Modern laws are based around bible rules. Just look at the 10 Commandments. There all part of the law now-a-days.

However the more obscure parts of the bible are only maintained by the true bible fan boys/girls. So yeah modern law is from scripture, at least in the UK it is

[Yhalothar]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

"The Bible is much concerned with questions of right behavior, good behavior, and with the definition of evil"

You are right. However the you don't follow alot of what the bible says. You know stoning sabbath breakers is wrong, however the bible claims it's a good idea. So how do you know it's wrong?
A quick look at prisons can show us that the morals of atheists are in no way inferior to those of theists.
I can't tell you where we get our morals or ethics from, (though there are a number of ideas) all I can say is that we definately don't get them from scripture.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

A proud atheist, eh?

Now, a Christian might be curious about how you understand what is good and what is evil.

The Bible is much concerned with questions of right behavior, good behavior, and with the definition of evil.

I understand how an ethical atheist arrives at moral understanding. I am curious whether you do.

So this is a challenge: explain the atheist understanding of good and evil, and how one arrives at that understanding.

~~ OEJ

[LinusRed]

Re: I'm a proud atheist

I was an atheist. Then I realized how hollow my life was.

[Celeste]

yes, seriously.

you're all *****.

goodbye.

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I edited this post to remove an offensive word, Celeste. Talk nice, please. ~~ One-eyed Jack