[Cyberax]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Friend,
What is it with you atheists? Every time we Christians make a point in the argument you claim we are joking? It’s like some kind of messed up version of Godwins law.

Yes, it's that bad.

Now back to light and dark; light bends in gravity. Right? I assume you know about gravitational lensing as an example of gravity bending light? Well if the world were round like you Geosphereist seem to think the light would just bend around the round earth and it would always be light. Only a flat earth would stop this from happening.

Gravitational lensing is an incredibly weak effect. It's nowhere near powerful enough to bend Sun rays by 90 degrees.

Do the math:
phi = 4GM / c2R, where "phi" is the angle of deflection, G - gravitational constant, "c" - speed of light in vacuum, R - radius.

For the Earth:
phi = 4*6.67*10^(-11)*5.97*10^24 / 9*10^16*6.37*10^6 ~= 2.79*10(-9) radians or 5*10-7 degrees.

I.e. the Earth can bend sunlight at the sea level by 0.00000007 degrees. That's a little bit different from the required 90 degrees.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Please, please, please. Tell me it's a satire!

Or I'll completely lose my faith in humanity...

Friend,

What is it with you atheists? Every time we Christians make a point in the argument you claim we are joking? It’s like some kind of messed up version of Godwins law.

Now back to light and dark; light bends in gravity. Right? I assume you know about gravitational lensing as an example of gravity bending light? Well if the world were round like you Geosphereist seem to think the light would just bend around the round earth and it would always be light. Only a flat earth would stop this from happening.

[Cyberax]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

You mistake the only True Christian™ Church for a church that cares what “so-called” scientists spew out on a daily basis. “Scientific” views are ever changing, as new “evidence” contradicts old belief, whilst the Word of The Lord is steadfast.

I could never understand why people always blame science for constantly changing and reviewing theories.

It's a GOOD thing. We are not perfect, we make mistakes and so the things and ideas we create are also imperfect. And so scientists constantly try to fix imperfections in their theories.

Your purpose here is to press a literally unpopular idea (only 40% support) down the throats of simple folk who know the value of The Lord’s Guidance and thus aggrandize your personal standing.

Yeah. It's a dirty job, but someone must at least TRY to educate these poor misguided people.

Without those who believe in your false creed, you are nothing and your works are nothing.

And that part is actually not true. Scientific theories do not care if they are supported by more than 50% of public.

[Cyberax]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Well of course the Earth is flat friend like God explains in The Bible. I mean come on, how else would it get dark at night? That wouldn't happen if the Earth was round.

Please, please, please. Tell me it's a satire!

Or I'll completely lose my faith in humanity...

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

You mistake popular support and scientific evidence. They are most emphatically NOT the same.

For example, some 500 years ago most people believed that the Earth is flat.

Well of course the Earth is flat friend like God explains in The Bible. I mean come on, how else would it get dark at night? That wouldn't happen if the Earth was round.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

You mistake popular support and scientific evidence. They are most emphatically NOT the same.

You mistake the only True Christian™ Church for a church that cares what “so-called” scientists spew out on a daily basis. “Scientific” views are ever changing, as new “evidence” contradicts old belief, whilst the Word of The Lord is steadfast.

Landover Baptist Church works to save souls by showing the True Way™. We do not come into the laboratories of those who create the work of the devil and proselytize, we await the arrival, guided by the hand of The Lord, of those practitioners of the Black Arts to this Church to be shown the way to Salvation™ (as in your case.)

You may accept or reject this offer but, based upon what I have read so far, I have a shrewd idea what you will do.

Your purpose here is to press a literally unpopular idea (only 40% support) down the throats of simple folk who know the value of The Lord’s Guidance and thus aggrandize your personal standing.



Without those who believe in your false creed, you are nothing and your works are nothing.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

For example, some 500 years ago most people believed that the Earth is flat.

Those were the days! You may want to read up on this here.

[Cyberax]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Sure, the Bible appears to have some minor soft spots (though as a True Christian I contest that), but it still is a document that is accept by at lest 60% of the American population. Can you show any such document for your theory?

You mistake popular support and scientific evidence. They are most emphatically NOT the same.

For example, some 500 years ago most people believed that the Earth is flat.

[Cyberax]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Yes, why not read a bunch of atheists prattle on and support each other in making stuff up to try and drive a wedge between humanity and God?

Nope. We try to drive a wedge between secular and spiritual parts of the world.

I for one don't care what you believe. The last thing I want is to make you betray Christ or something like this.

However, I deem biology to be my area of expertise and I don't want people spreading pure nonsense about it.

No thank you. The Bible has lasted millennia without nonsense like "peer review" as the Lord has no peer, and none of it has ever been proved wrong.

Yes, and people also died young without a decent healthcare for millennia.

[Nobar King]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

However, it is amazning how the power of the lord draws these unsaved souls to the fold. There is so much standing in the way of salvation, yet every day more and more sinners make there way here to find their way. What is going to happen to all these people? All Jesus wants is for you to give your love to him..

How difficult is that? All you have to do is ask.

Right?

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Let him be, Pastor Zeke. He might have seen the current version, in which someone mocks this Holy Church®. He thinks he has discovered some sort of secret, the lunatic...

[XeyedJack]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Well I defer to your Holiness of course. Let those with irony deficiency continue on instead of doing better work elsewhere. Rock on.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Psssst! dudes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

What's your point, heathen? We are God's favorite church, so of course we are listed on various websites around these intertubes...

[XeyedJack]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Psssst! dudes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

[Atomic Chimp]

Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater!

Attention minions of the Allied Atheist Agenda:

There is absolutely positively no evidence whatsoever for the idiotic concept that is evilution. The skeletal remains of various unrelated and completely distinct species of animal life does not prove that one creature transformed into another.

Even if we were to assume that genetics are a reality and that human being contained within their genetic code deactivated reptile DNA it stands to reason that Jesus could simply turn these various genetic instructions on and off at his leisure. According to monkey worshippers birds are dinosuars (behemoths & leviathans). A chicken could give birth to an ancient Tyranasaurus behemoth by deactivating all the genes that produce chicken organs and reactivating all the deactivated T-Rex genes. Evilution becomes an unnecessary process seeing that Jesus could just flip a few million switches and give the atoms different construction instructions.

Let's face the fact here. Assuming atoms and all that hogwash was real you'd have to admit that the laws of physics have been the laws of physics from the so-called Big Bang up to the present day. That means that your genetics already existed from the beginning. Likewise, chicken DNA existed before chickens existed. This would indicate that a great plan was already pre-conceived. Your mythological DNA would be nothing more than program code that Jesus engineered and alters as he sees fit to create whatever creatures He pleases.

Believe in genetics and atoms all you want because no matter what lies your psuedo scienist man-gods come up with everything ultimately leads back to Jesus. GLORY!!!

Joshua, Evolution has much, more evidence from many different sciences than just fossil evidence, involving geology, paleontology, genetics, biology, micro biology and many more.

Concerning the big bang, the laws of physic didn't exist until after the big bang. Chicken DNA only exist before chickens in the sense that a wgon existed before a car. Some of the parts of it DNA existed but not all of them nor in the same sequence. Evolution is the building upon and expanding of what existed previously. We have seen evolution in action in minor changes and total speciation. We have seen new genetic machines developed in an organism through this process, and create new and unique species. If you want to believe it was engineered by jesus, that fine with me, but DNA does exist and overwhelming amounts of evidence for evolution in DNA and other schools of the sciences exists. You can doubt it all you want but it doesn't change whats true. I suggest you should get a deeper understanding of what you're trying to refute before saying anything next time.

From what you said it sounds like you don't believe in atoms either, is this true?! How much science education have you had so far? What is the average age of people posting on this board too?

Psuedo-scientists? Sorry to say that if you believe the pioneers of science that brought us evolutionary sciences and the atomic theory are real scientists and you should thank them for you health and modern conveniences.

Have a goodnight everyone!

Word is Bond!
~Atomic Chimp