[Meek and Humble]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Heathen, I believe I see how the JW's conned you. Several years back, I let two JW's into my home. As the three of us were sitting in my living room, I asked to be excused for a moment to go to the rest room and when I was finished, I did the shake thing and it quickly led to 'running a quick batch off by hand'. Well, I happened to overhear the two JW's talking among themselves about JW Heaven. They happily stated that in JW Heaven there are homes as far as the eye can see that have never seen a witnesser from the Mormons or JW's. All the 'mansions' are very close to each other with extremely short driveways or walkways and there are no dogs! Everyone is waiting at their door with a couple of dollars in hand and there are no locks on any doors! Everybody in JW heaven just impatiently waits for a JW visit and none of them ever roll their eyes or look at their watches during a visit and actually seem to be listening and buying it!!

[Yea-tho-we-walk]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Heathen, I believe I see how the JW's conned you. Several years back, I let two JW's into my home. As the three of us were sitting in my living room, I asked to be excused for a moment to go to the rest room and when I was finished, I did the shake thing and it quickly led to 'running a quick batch off by hand'. Well, I happened to overhear the two JW's talking among themselves about JW Heaven. They happily stated that in JW Heaven there are homes as far as the eye can see that have never seen a witnesser from the Mormons or JW's. All the 'mansions' are very close to each other with extremely short driveways or walkways and there are no dogs! Everyone is waiting at their door with a couple of dollars in hand and there are no locks on any doors! Everybody in JW heaven just impatiently waits for a JW visit and none of them ever roll their eyes or look at their watches during a visit and actually seem to be listening and buying it!!

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Look in the mirror and take your own advice! You are worshiping THREE gods instead of the one true Jehovah!!!

Are you a henotheist now? Based on the NWT of John 1:1, which says Jesus was a god, you must believe there are other gods besides Jehovah. But what proof do you have that these other gods even exist?

Is 45:5a I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Brother Portway!

I know it is hard, but....

Look in the mirror and take your own advice! You are worshiping THREE gods instead of the one true Jehovah!!!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

There are young church members like Felicity who come here. You and I are strong enough in our faith to stand up to Mr. Basher's lies...but what about The Children? (Mary E. is also somewhat impressionable.)

We have given him every opportunity to return to The Fold. I even offered him a cake.

Your cakes always look so delicious. I don't make a lot of cakes but do have some good recipes including boiled marmalade cake which is lovely with icecream there's a new icecream shop just opened close by and they also have a chocolate restaurant where everything is chocolate including the plates.

I hope I have not distracted Mrs Etheldreda. I have always told the younger forum members that when witnessing, even to hostile ignorants who look like they're about to have a botch-of-Egypt .Deuteronomy 28:27. that who knows? What you say next might be just what they needed to hear to turn away from evil and accept Jesus. So they'll understand my meaning I'm sure. Perhaps I should pop 'round to the Etheldreda's and reassure Mr Etheldreda that I am not trying to destabilise his wife? I wouldn't want anyone to get the wrong idea; thanks for the tip.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Brother Portway!

I know it is hard, but....

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

You don't have the balls Portway!

Oh, and you do? You've always been a little bitch, and now you're an unsaved little bitch. And you know what? I never liked you. Enjoy hell loser and good riddance to you.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Supervision is undoubtedly needed...for his posts here, at least. I'm sure the Pastors and Male Elders are planning something.

There are young church members like Felicity who come here. You and I are strong enough in our faith to stand up to Mr. Basher's lies...but what about The Children? (Mary E. is also somewhat impressionable.)

We have given him every opportunity to return to The Fold. I even offered him a cake. All he does is spit up and spray his sty of lies here!
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[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

After such a cacophany of failed predictions, false prophecies, busted brainwashing and doors slammed in their faces here is a wonder: that there's any of them left at all!

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HB:
we believe in Jehovah's Holy Spirit. It is one of the most important things involving worship to Jehovah. His active force is there for us all of the time as long as we are willing to ask for it.

Was it available to Moses?

Thank you for replying.
I was not claiming to know The Bible.
My question was if The Watchtower changed (in a number of ways) then the motivation for that change (to move it into agreement with the Scriptures) must have come from some better knowledge (of The Bible) than Russell had. Otherwise it would not have to change, it would already be in the 2nd state based on Russell's knowledge.

Whether that was an individual or group is not important. So how can you know whether in the future there won't be another group (or individual) having a better Biblical understanding than prevails today, in The Watchtower, requiring changes from the current position?

Just as today's doctrine has been changed from Russell's?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

You don't have the balls Portway!

No he doesn't.

But I do.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

they call it "the LORDS supper" or some such nonsense and yeah, it's kind of like the Passover, but not really the Passover, so it's not really Jewish, but they pretend it is.

Obfuscation and trickery.

How like them.

I don't think HB knows what he's in for. He's rather young.
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[BelieverInGod]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Wait......!!!!!!.......did they learn about Passover Suppers from the Joos, in the camps????
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If I were in a camp, I'd just escape, rather than stay in some barracks with those people.

I don't know the details, I try to stay away from cults as much as possible, but they call it "the LORDS supper" or some such nonsense and yeah, it's kind of like the Passover, but not really the Passover, so it's not really Jewish, but they pretend it is.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Yep, no Birthday cake, no Birthday presents, no Christmas, but they make a mockery of the "passover supper".

Wait......!!!!!!.......did they learn about Passover Suppers from the Joos, in the camps????
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If I were in a camp, I'd just escape, rather than stay in some barracks with those people.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

Huh, so they've changed the reason they don't celebrate Birthdays now? I guess the "we don't know when Jesus was born, so you're not allowed a Birthday either" was pretty hard to sell.

Yep, no Birthday cake, no Birthday presents, no Christmas, but they make a mockery of the "passover supper".

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God???

What happened? Is logic 101 regarding your Hell bound faith too much for you to handle...?

That's the problem with people who are brainwashed by religious cults. Logic isn't only too much to handle, it's systematically dismissed in favor of whatever emotional and psychological bondage ties them to the cult.

Poor, poor Heathen Basher, has become a Heathen Backer, and now he backs up and supports the Father of Lies.

Oh but I pray for this poor, deluded, duped, fool!

Come back Heathen Basher! Come back! Jesus will not forsake you (Hebrews 13:5), that is, if your conversion was in fact genuine!