Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Desistance and Disengagement

But from what? Just as not all Methodists are missionaries, not all muslims are hot jihadis. But all Methodists support the missionary effort to spread The Gospel as laid out in The Bible by Jesus. Those who offer support in prayer or financial support or even simply knit baby wear for the savages are just as important as those who face the wilds of Greenland or New Guinea. If Methodists didn't. believe that they'd stop being Methodists.

I Corinthians 12:15-22 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. And if they were all one member, where were the body? But now are they many members, yet but one body. And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:

Mohammed also left instructions for spreading ideas. More and more people now have read the koran, the "hadith" and something called Reliance Of The Traveller˙.which is a later book. They're pretty easy to look up and contain all sorts of techniques. Not everyone conducts jihad as a "hot" struggle with neck smiting or weapons of war. For most it's an inward struggle against temptation or apostasy. In the meantime there's a place for various forms of deception, the well known Taqiyya and the less trumpeted Kitman being two of them.

Thus to advocate for my murder more effectively.—.clearly their source material calls for it since I reject the tenets of their belief system absolutely and would not believe a single word any of them ever said given that deceiving me is not lying because I'm an infidel.—.desisting from the plain speaking which got him into trouble in the first place would be a benefit. To disengage from truth telling would enhance the 5th column strategy he advocates in so outspoken a manner.

Which raises the question, what do you call it when the thing you're trying to get away from collapses under the invaders' jack boots while your still prevaricating? There'd be nothing to exit from!

Mr Trump has an additional challenge from papist hordes pretending to exit from the inevitable (and predicted) consequences of Romish catholicism. Scripture in that case encourages honesty but since their puppet-masters pay no attention to God except insofar as they do the exact opposite of what He commands very little notice should be taken of anything they say either. If they really wanted to get away from it they wouldn't set up their idols or worship their popes upon arrival. But they do.

No-one rejecting the murderous principles of any creed holding such principles would remain within that creed. They would identify in some other way. It's easy enough for anyone to read what the principles are, in any case.

• http://www.mihraab.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Reliance-of-the-Traveler-Translation.pdf

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

I'm not sure what it means here yet, but I see that the Brits have released Anjem Choudary from jail and Führer Frau Angela Merkel is stepping down.

Ah, but Chowdry is being forced to go on a "Desistance and Disengagement Program(me)", which is some sort of anti-terrorism course for terrorists. So those of us who have the misfortune to be in the Disunited Queendom can all sleep easy in our beds - such a relief!

I can't describe the ache we all feel in our hearts, just longing to move back permanently to my dear husband's old family home in Apostles Drive with neighbors we can actually bear to speak to, mostly. But as long as he is needed to serve Jesus and LBC here, we are putting a brave face on it.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Might be relevant:

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

I'm not sure what it means here yet, but I see that the Brits have released Anjem Choudary from jail and Führer Frau Angela Merkel is stepping down.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

it begins with T.C.

Two Corinthians?

II Corinthians 4:8-9 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

As we are mocked and in so many cases persecuted, the Epistles to Corinth bring encouragement. Can it really be just a coincidence that the mockers who want to invade us, wherever we are, come from predominantly popish or mahommedanesque regions? I am absolutely certain that if cardinals & bishops ever get back to making laws again they'll revert to the dark ages of catholicism replete with incineration of protestants. Look what happened in Persia! Or Egypt! Not perhaps the most edifying hangouts but how long did it take to U-turn once the mullahs got a whiff of power? “Sharia and the stone age here we come,” maybe with a few nukes someone else invented. Islamic heresy or Romish blasphemy, surely we are troubled on every side as they come in ululating hoards to invade us but whether in America or Britain we are not distressed.

..Thank you Jesus

Thank you Lord

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

With a tanking currency and calls for stockpiling food and medicine, the Conservative government have listened to the people (as they did on Brexit) and passed a budget that cut taxes for those earning "high" incomes. I hesitate to say anyone in Britain earns a high income but it's in relative terms.

The enlightened British President seems equally attuned to the population as tax-slashing President Trump. Despite fake news liberal polls showing 2-1 support for letting sick people visit a doctor, Republican leaders are running on slashing health insurance and decimating social security to save America.

Think about it folks! Would you rather die of starvation on the street or save American lives? I know what I'd rather you do and it begins with T.C.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Coins are funny aren't they. A while ago I was in Germany, probably 1990-2000-ish, and arrived with a load of coins [RIGHT]. There was a kiosk and some other English speaker was performing well but unable to change coins. I got what I wanted but suggested anyway "I don't suppose I can change these?" The moustachioed freak behind the counter took one and had a look. Burst out laughing. "Ha! Ha! Ha!" he said, passing my coin over to the other freak who looked at it. "Ho! Ho! Ho!" he said, then more-or-less in union: "International Year Of The Peace!" After the hysterics wore off, my freak enquired "How many have you got?" Happily I was able to change all my coins.

Not everyone will have such good fortune in the Europe. Peace had been an alien concept from The French Revolution to Napoleon to Archduke Ferdinand and the whole joint going off like a tinder-box at regular intervals.

No wonder they laughed. I made a few notes from the first post:

• be torn from every EU law
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• and from every EU instrument
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• and agency
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• no British plane or pilot will be certified or insured
  • er.. are there no insurance companies in Britain?
  • have their pilot training facilities been smitten with ebola?
  • did St Vitus’ Dance break out at Rolls-Royce?
    • Haven't they designed and built the odd half-decent aircraft?
      
      • or perhaps I was hallucinating
  
  
  
• bringing cross-Channel traffic to a standstill
  • which I'd thought was the whole point, to close down ingress of undesirables

I have no idea why anyone would climb in bed with a European.

. . .Nero.
. . .The Marquis de Sade.
. . .Marie Antionette.
. . .Bismarck.
. . .The minds boggles.
. . .Just for reference I thought I'd compare population groups.

Europe 442 million
5-Eyes Nations 456 million	GB US NZ CA AU

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

There is much to admire about the Northern Irish position, Dr Toole. Their government (dormant since January 2017) confirms, repeatedly and incessantly, over and over again and at maximum volume, that there is only one line it will refuse to cross: that is any line that involves the colony being treated differently from the rest of the United Kingdom.

It is impressive that they maintain this position while still retaining their own Godly prohibitions on many so-called "civil rights" matters, plus a law of libel so much more generous to the plaintiff than that of Great Britain. (This makes them a desirable destination for libel tourism - top tip: since the law was changed in the rest of Britain, should you ever be libeled, it's well worth the trip to sue in Northern Ireland!) I applaud them.

The problem appears to be that the intransigent EU won't agree to erect a border to keep their filthy foreign terrorists out while making sure there is no border to restrict trade and travel.

The North Irish government-in-abeyance is also opposed to a border - not just a border between Norn Irn (as they call their country) and the Fenian Republic, but also one between Ireland as a whole and the rest of the British Isles. "No Border Here!" they cry, in their impenetrable accent.

I see that the British government is planning to issue a commemorative 50 pence coin to mark the country's eventual departure from the EU:



The sentiment is laughable, of course. And I notice that they haven't put a date on it.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

3 months on and the poll shows massive confidence in Brexit.

A major surprise: nothing has changed in the 18 months since triggering Brexit without a plan for how to resolve the Irish border. British President Theresa May still has no idea how to resolve the North/South Irish border. The problem appears to be that the intransigent EU won't agree to erect a border to keep their filthy foreign terrorists out while making sure there is no border to restrict trade and travel.

I don't see the problem. Just walk away and let them pay for the wall. Worked like a charm for US. The Brits will be so bored of winning $350m/week to spend on free dental care they'll barely notice the Catholics have gone and all crime has been eliminated. If they get uppity, well a new European war would stimulate the economy. "FREEEDOM!" etc. I love that movie, come on UK get stuck into them!

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

I'm reading the news today and there's a little bit of upset over nothing much. Apparently the fake news liberal mainstream media have been speaking out on Brexit and Trump.

Brexit: A no-deal Brexit will tear us from every EU law, instrument and agency overnight. We have nothing with which to replace them. Out of the European Aviation Safety Agency, no British plane or pilot will be certified or insured. Out of the single market and customs union, every British lorry will have to be checked at French ports for tariffs and standards, bringing cross-Channel traffic to a standstill. These outcomes are not only legal, but required.

Trump: “The President of the United States just called on his Attorney General to put an end to an investigation in which the President, his family and campaign may be implicated,” Schiff tweeted. “This is an attempt to obstruct justice hiding in plain sight. America must never accept it.” As head of the justice department, Sessions has authority over the special counsel investigation, and although he has recused himself, Sessions could disrupt the Mueller investigation by ordering deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein to fire Mueller or by firing Rosenstein.

So which will survive the liberal onslaught the longest?