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  • Rev. Dr. Davidson
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    • Jan 2007
    • 1439

    #1

    Lincoln was a terrible president

    Originally posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    It's the 21st century. Do you think you will get ANYWHERE with your blatant racial stereotypes, your..."different" theories, and the belief that Abraham Lincoln was a terrible president? Ok, go over to Washington D.C. and say that Lincoln was a terrible president and that African Americans are inferior. Let's see how long you will last in the real world, not your little safe haven in Iowa.

    What are they teaching you in school these days? Have you ever read the Emancipation Proclimation? It was a worthless peice of paper. He did it to stir up trouble so he could violate the constitution. Yes... He did violate the constitution in several ways. He was also owned by the railroad, which wanted access to the south.

    Violations: He called state regiments into federal service. He used the federal government to interfere in state governments(You'll remember that states has absolute rights within the states. The federal government only had juristriction in matters of interstate commerce.) He took property without due process. He also had illegal troops perform illegal searches. There are a few other things, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. We have a government that's too big today because of him......

    After all of that, he was working on a bill to get rid of all Negros(deporting) because he didn't like them. He was shot before he could complete that.
    "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
    (Leviticus 21:6-7)
  • Tyrone Shoelaces
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    • Jan 2007
    • 237

    #2
    Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

    Show me proof of the last one.

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    • Rev. Dr. Davidson
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      • 1439

      #3
      Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

      What Lincoln proposed officially and publicly was that the United States government buy the slaves and deport them to Africa or South America. This was not a passing whim. In five major policy declarations, including two State of the Union addresses and the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, the sixteenth president of the United States publicly and officially called for the deportation of blacks. On countless other occasions, in conferences with cronies, Democratic and Republican leaders, and high government officials, he called for colonization of blacks or aggressively promoted colonization by private and official acts.

      Forced Into Glory, Abraham Lincoln’s White Dream:by Lenore Bennett, Jr.
      "It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation, and deportation, peaceably, and in such degrees, as the evil will wear off insensibly; and their places be . . . filled up by free white laborers."
      ~ Lincoln, February 27, 1860, New York City

      Make Negroes politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this. I will say that I am not nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor have ever been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people. And I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior. And I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

      ~Lincoln, 1858, Illinois
      "But if gradual emancipation and deportation be adopted, they will have neither to flee from . . . till new homes can be found for them, in congenial climes, and with people of their own blood and race."
      ~ Lincoln’s 1862 State of the Union Address

      "Almost from the commencement of this administration, the subject of deporting the colored race has been discussed . . . As early as May 1861, a great pressure was made upon me to enter into a coal contract with (a) company. The President was in earnest in the matter, wished to send the Negroes out of the country."

      ~ Secretary of the Navy Gideon Welles
      "(President Lincoln) zealously and persistently devised schemes for the deportation of the Negroes, which the latter deemed cruel and atrocious in the extreme . . . "
      ~ Close friend and Federal Marshal Ward Hill Lamon

      Need anything more?
      Last edited by Rev. Dr. Davidson; 01-23-2007, 03:21 AM.
      "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
      (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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      • Peacekeeper
        • Jan 2007
        • 115

        #4
        Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

        Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Davidson View Post
        We have a government that's too big today because of him......
        Well if you dont have a big government then it slowly creaks into communism. The smaller the government is, the more power the people in it have. And a famous quote from George Orwell (author of animal farm) "With great power comes great corruption"

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        • OnYourKnees
          On Extended Furlough
          True Christian™
          • Nov 2006
          • 4729

          #5
          Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

          Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Davidson View Post
          What Lincoln proposed officially and publicly was that the United States government buy the slaves and deport them to Africa or South America.
          Well, that sure wasn't in MY history book.

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          • Rev. Dr. Davidson
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            #6
            Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

            Originally posted by OnYourKnees View Post
            Well, that sure wasn't in MY history book.
            I'd always wondered, because I'd read the emancipation proclamation. All slaves not already free shall be free on the 1st of next year??? That never seemed right to me. He'd obviously already wanted to invade, but waited long enough for most of the north to get on board. He believed in white supremasy.
            "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
            (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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            • Mrs. Mary Whitford
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              Mama Grizzly and formerly Sister Mary Maria
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              • Dec 2006
              • 12414

              #7
              Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

              So if Lincoln had his way, the pecan pie I baked yesterday would never have been stolen? Suddenly John Wilkes Booth no longer seems like such a hero.
              Last edited by Mrs. Mary Whitford; 01-23-2007, 03:26 PM.
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              • Peacekeeper
                • Jan 2007
                • 115

                #8
                Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                Another question, why the hell do you bake pies and put them on your window sill. Its called letting them cool off on your counter. Maybe if you didn't have a learning disability you would realize that baking pies and putting them on a window sill gets them stolen you wouldn't do it anymore.

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                • Poetic Peter
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                  • Nov 2006
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                  #9
                  Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                  Lincoln had a homer side too.

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                  • Daisy Mae Johnson
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                    • Sep 2006
                    • 15708

                    #10
                    Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                    Originally posted by Peacekeeper View Post
                    Another question, why the hell do you bake pies and put them on your window sill. Its called letting them cool off on your counter. Maybe if you didn't have a learning disability you would realize that baking pies and putting them on a window sill gets them stolen you wouldn't do it anymore.
                    That is the traditional place to let them cool off. Why, the people of Freehold have been letting their delicious pies cool on windowsills for generations. Good, upstanding True Christian™ neighbors delight in the smell of fresh baked pies wafting by.

                    Why should we stop? Because Nigras cannot control their depraved theiving urges? I think not!

                    Should white women stay off the streets now so nig bucks don't rape them?

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                    • Brother Temperance
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 15621

                      #11
                      Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                      Originally posted by BibleThumpinBlonde View Post
                      Why should we stop? Because Nigras cannot control their depraved theiving urges? I think not!

                      Should white women stay off the streets now so nig bucks don't rape them?

                      Sister Thumper
                      Actually, now I come to think of it: Why would a woman need to be walking about in the street? Going to work?
                      Anyway, while Lincoln was undoubtedly the worst Republican President ever, he did at least have some decent Republican ideas.
                      Originally posted by Wiccanpaedo
                      During the Civil War, Lincoln appropriated powers no previous President had wielded: he used his war powers to proclaim a blockade, suspended the writ of habeas corpus, spent money without congressional authorization, and imprisoned 18,000 suspected Confederate sympathizers without trial.
                      Praise!
                      Originally posted by Peacekeeper
                      Well if you dont have a big government then it slowly creaks into communism. The smaller the government is, the more power the people in it have. And a famous quote from George Orwell (author of animal farm) "With great power comes great corruption"
                      You don't know what the term "big government" means, do you? Also, you appear to be unable to tell the difference between Lord Acton, the damnable socialist revolutionary George Orwell, and Yoda the Jedi. You are a very confused young man indeed.
                      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                      • Mrs. Mary Whitford
                        Ladies of Landover Senior VP
                        One of the Truest Christians™ Ever
                        Mama Grizzly and formerly Sister Mary Maria
                        True Christian™
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 12414

                        #12
                        Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                        Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                        Actually, now I come to think of it: Why would a woman need to be walking about in the street? Going to work?
                        Are you volunteering to go buy the groceries and pick up the dry cleaning?


                        (Sorry for snapping like that, Brother Temperance, I'll go pray now.)
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                        • Brother Temperance
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                          • Sep 2006
                          • 15621

                          #13
                          Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                          Originally posted by Sister Mary Maria View Post
                          Are you volunteering to go buy the groceries and pick up the dry cleaning?


                          (Sorry for snapping like that, Brother Temperance, I'll go pray now.)
                          That's what my Polack's for. Sure, she is technically female, but it is pretty difficult to tell.
                          O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                          God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                          • Bobby-Joe
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 18405

                            #14
                            Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                            Originally posted by Poetic Peter View Post
                            Lincoln had a homer side too.
                            Brethren, please let us remember that Lincoln was a Godly Republican for what ever his faults were. As any Republican Lincoln was entitled to his youthful indiscretions (like atheism)

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                            • Poetic Peter
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                              • Nov 2006
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                              #15
                              Re: Lincoln was a terrible president

                              Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                              Brethren, please let us remember that Lincoln was a Godly Republican for what ever his faults were. As any Republican Lincoln was entitled to his youthful indiscretions (like atheism)
                              Interestingly, the roles of these parties reversed at the close of the first world war, when hoardes of poor Southern nigras emmigrated from the impoverished South to laze away in the earstwhile Norhern states.

                              Isn't that surprising?

                              For instance, Lincoln's GOP was of a "demoncratic", lieberal stripe, and the Democratic party of the post-Civil War period was highly conservative.

                              Why, just yesterday I was reading from my private, historical library;
                              in a bound volume 1918 Outlook magazines, there's a lampooning cartoon of
                              Henry Ford,
                              a "true Christian" conservative paternalist if there ever was one.
                              He was running for office in Michigan. He's drawn along in a broken T Ford, hauled by a donkey.

                              I'll find that cartoon later tonight, photograph and post it.

                              Yes, it's odd but true: Republicans then were the Demoncrats of today,
                              and vice versa.
                              Last edited by Poetic Peter; 01-23-2007, 08:00 PM.

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