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  • JennyD
    Honorary True Christian™
    Sweet Placid Sister
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    • Dec 2007
    • 9567

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    Is Christianity Socialist?

    This great article by Joel McDurmon blows the ridiculous assertion that Christians are supposed to be socialists out of the water. Here's a taste:

    A reader recently sent us an email regarding socialism and the Bible. His friend, he says, contends that socialism is biblical. I hear this all the time. Having just completed the manuscript for my refutation of some modern Christian Socialists—Ronald Sider, Tony Campolo, and Jim Wallis—I felt the unction to reply to this claim. The email reads thusly:

    I had an acquaintance who tells me Socialism is biblical. As he put it, “Think about it, the Israelites were required to give up their income for the benefit of 1. the priests 2. Levites 3. poor 4. those in debt 5. those countrymen who were slaves and 6. the farmers were not allowed to pick their produce up from the ground in order to give to the poor. That is called socialism. Oh and on top of that, they had a free will offering.”

    I have a difficult time equating God’s direction with Socialism. What do you think?

    The email is signed by a Chaplain, though he doesn’t say where or in what capacity. Chaplains often cross social lines that pastors and other church officials do not (unfortunately). Chaplains often deal with military men, public officials, officers, wardens, and prisoners among others. These men need a clear understanding of where the Bible draws lines between private versus State functions.

    Our reader’s acquaintance introduces his arguments for Socialism by saying, “think about it.” Unfortunately for him, he has not thought about it enough. The refutation of his points is simple: in none of these instances was the “Socialism” involved enforceable by the civil State. Thus, to talk of “Socialism” is misleading. The measures are socialistic if by socialism you mean private application of charity by individuals, families, and churches in order to benefit the poor and needy of society. It is emphatically not socialism if by that label you mean taxation and redistribution enforced by the State’s gun. Big difference.
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  • Bobby-Joe
    Landover Security Superviser
    Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
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    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 18405

    #2
    Re: Is Christianity Socialist?

    Originally posted by JennyD View Post
    This great article by Joel McDurmon blows the ridiculous assertion that Christians are supposed to be socialists out of the water. Here's a taste:
    Good point. When GOD Himself tells you to follow the guidance of the priesthood give your money away to the poor, limits the kind of commerce you can do and activities that is so NOT socialism. Socialism is done by secularist stateist who control the government, not priests in charge of a theocracy mandated by Heaven.

    Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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    • JennyD
      Honorary True Christian™
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      • Dec 2007
      • 9567

      #3
      Re: Is Christianity Socialist?

      Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
      Good point. When GOD Himself tells you to follow the guidance of the priesthood give your money away to the poor, limits the kind of commerce you can do and activities that is so NOT socialism. Socialism is done by secularist stateist who control the government, not priests in charge of a theocracy mandated by Heaven.
      Precisely Joel's point, Bobby-Joe.

      The Bible does direct us to voluntarily give to the poor. There is no authority given to anyone to force us to do it. Even Pastors who demand that we donate the insurance proceeds when our places of business are torched by people dressed to look just like Landover Security Detail officers do not have the authority to demand a dime, nor any capacity to enforce the tithe.

      God commands that we give to the poor, not that the government take our earnings and redistribute them as some "cash panel" sees fit.

      Those who obey and lovingly give to the poor receive their reward from God; those who disobey and ignore the poor receive their punishment from God.
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      • Bobby-Joe
        Landover Security Superviser
        Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
        NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 18405

        #4
        Re: Is Christianity Socialist?

        Originally posted by JennyD View Post
        Precisely Joel's point, Bobby-Joe.

        The Bible does direct us to voluntarily give to the poor. There is no authority given to anyone to force us to do it. Even Pastors who demand that we donate the insurance proceeds when our places of business are torched by people dressed to look just like Landover Security Detail officers do not have the authority to demand a dime, nor any capacity to enforce the tithe.
        I think you are hazy on theology sister and that is why you are in hot water (which I pray you may repent of). The Bible directs us Christian to voluntarily band together, convert or persecute unbelievers and create a theocracy were the government is under control of Christ (with Him using His church as His tool to administer it). Then when someone rashly refused to voluntarily pay their tithes as God commands them to the Church voluntarily excludes them from the protection of the law and horribly thing happen to them. However please note in a Christian community there is no statest compulsion undermining freewill; people volunteer to obey to the law or voluntarily accept the punishment for breaking it.

        Above all a Christian community is a free one.

        Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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        • Pastor Isaac Peters
          Senior Pastor
          Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
          Always Biblically correct
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 10639

          #5
          Re: Is Christianity Socialist?

          One thing that the "Christian" socialists hope we'll overlook is that the moochers are basically apostates and worse than mooselimbs:

          1 Tim. 5:8: But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
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