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  • Johny Joe Hold
    Mayor of Freehold
     
    • Feb 2010
    • 12641

    #1

    Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

    How on earth can anyone be TOO religious? Especially when they are of the Christian faith. This kind of thing must stop:

    The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments Thursday over whether Hallmark Companies discriminated against a Christian couple when it fired them


    Here a couple put religious art in the reception area of the apartment complex they were managing. I mean, art. Art can mean anything.

    I suppose some heathen atheist complained. That's what they do. Whine and complain.

    This couple, probably, will be replaced by an atheist couple who will display nude pictures of a Greek god. Oh, sure, that will be just fine.
    Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78555

    #2
    Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

    This kind of persecution only proves that we're right, and that we're Blessed by God Almighty!

    2 Timothy 3:12
    All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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    • BelieverInGod
      Fourm Member
      Forum Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 9269

      #3
      Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

      Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
      How on earth can anyone be TOO religious? Especially when they are of the Christian faith. This kind of thing must stop:

      The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments Thursday over whether Hallmark Companies discriminated against a Christian couple when it fired them


      Here a couple put religious art in the reception area of the apartment complex they were managing. I mean, art. Art can mean anything.

      I suppose some heathen atheist complained. That's what they do. Whine and complain.

      This couple, probably, will be replaced by an atheist couple who will display nude pictures of a Greek god. Oh, sure, that will be just fine.
      Really, but firing anyone of another religion for wearing a turban, or having an 8 armed statue in the corner and the liebrals would be up in arms screaming about "freedom of religion".

      2nd Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
      2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
      2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
      2nd Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
      2nd Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
      Drama queen

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      • looking4mybrain
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Oct 2010
        • 95

        #4
        Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

        'Fraid I've got to side with the Landover folks on this one. That IS religious persecution. However, remember that it happens to all religions, not just you guys. Either way, the impossible has happened. I ACTUALLY SIDED WITH YOU IN AN ARGUMENT. GASP

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        • BelieverInGod
          Fourm Member
          Forum Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 9269

          #5
          Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

          Originally posted by looking4mybrain View Post
          'Fraid I've got to side with the Landover folks on this one. That IS religious persecution. However, remember that it happens to all religions, not just you guys. Either way, the impossible has happened. I ACTUALLY SIDED WITH YOU IN AN ARGUMENT. GASP
          It's not happening to any other religion. Only white Christian (preferable males) can be legally persecuted in this country. Anyone else can go running to the ACLU and have the sympathies of the nation with them.
          Drama queen

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          • despising david
            Forum Member
            Forum Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 144

            #6
            Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

            Originally posted by looking4mybrain View Post
            'Fraid I've got to side with the Landover folks on this one. That IS religious persecution. However, remember that it happens to all religions, not just you guys. Either way, the impossible has happened. I ACTUALLY SIDED WITH YOU IN AN ARGUMENT. GASP
            Proof that even athiest's like you occassionally see the light of god through the windowsill. Now if only you followed that light and spared yourself from the lake of fire that you are currently travelling to!!!! And this injustice is by and far an attack on God through satan worshipping pigs, but we must remember that being attacked for loving god only makes us stronger!!!
            Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
            Deuteronomy 6:5
            Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

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            • Higgins
              True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Jul 2010
              • 314

              #7
              Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

              I think it will be interesting to see how the 11th circuit rules on this. Honestly I do not see it going well for the Dixons. This is because almost any lawyer worth his/her salt would put in the contract that the employee is one of will meaning that they can be fired for almost any reason (religious descrimination is one of the reasons why someone cannot be fired), but all that Hallmark would have to do is say that the Dixons violated their terms and agreements of their contract (that of abiding by the handbook of Hallmark, or whatever, by hanging up a religious sign) and therefore are fired for that reason, not for being "too religious".

              But it is possible that Hallmark did not have a contract with the Dixons or if they did it didn't include this prevision, so they may be out of luck, but odds are if they were to get the summary judgment reversed (which may or may not be possible depending on if there is a matter of fact to be decided), a reasonable jury may not come to the conclusion it was discrimination.

              It should be noted that all of this is conjecture, as I could not find any of the documents pertaining to this case.
              Genesis 4:12: When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

              Numbers 35:19: The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer: when he meeteth him, he shall slay him.

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              • Bobby-Joe
                Landover Security Superviser
                Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
                NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 18405

                #8
                Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

                Originally posted by Higgins View Post
                I think it will be interesting to see how the 11th circuit rules on this. Honestly I do not see it going well for the Dixons. This is because almost any lawyer worth his/her salt would put in the contract that the employee is one of will meaning that they can be fired for almost any reason (religious descrimination is one of the reasons why someone cannot be fired), but all that Hallmark would have to do is say that the Dixons violated their terms and agreements of their contract (that of abiding by the handbook of Hallmark, or whatever, by hanging up a religious sign) and therefore are fired for that reason, not for being "too religious".

                But it is possible that Hallmark did not have a contract with the Dixons or if they did it didn't include this prevision, so they may be out of luck, but odds are if they were to get the summary judgment reversed (which may or may not be possible depending on if there is a matter of fact to be decided), a reasonable jury may not come to the conclusion it was discrimination.

                It should be noted that all of this is conjecture, as I could not find any of the documents pertaining to this case.
                Contract or not the Dixons were just being good care takers; by hanging that Christian sign they were making it abundantly clear to everyone that the Hallmark Apartments DID NOT welcome sub-human scum like homosexuals, illegal immigrants, drug addicts, felons, pornographers, child molesters, witches, single mothers, Satanists, thieves, Democrats, atheists, Catholics, physicists, Census workers, prostitutes, union members, model rail road hobbyists and other riff faff. In other words the Hallmark Apartments were a REAL American community and promoted REAL American values. I suppose the liberals would rather the building be full of non-stop orgies set to Doris Day Movies but the Dixons thought otherwise. Instead of being praised for taking care of their employers property they are cursed and persecuted.

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                • Higgins
                  True Christian™
                  True Christian™
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 314

                  #9
                  Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

                  Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                  Contract or not the Dixons were just being good care takers; by hanging that Christian sign they were making it abundantly clear to everyone that the Hallmark Apartments DID NOT welcome sub-human scum like homosexuals, illegal immigrants, drug addicts, felons, pornographers, child molesters, witches, single mothers, Satanists, thieves, Democrats, atheists, Catholics, physicists, Census workers, prostitutes, union members, model rail road hobbyists and other riff faff. In other words the Hallmark Apartments were a REAL American community and promoted REAL American values. I suppose the liberals would rather the building be full of non-stop orgies set to Doris Day Movies but the Dixons thought otherwise. Instead of being praised for taking care of their employers property they are cursed and persecuted.

                  Were is our country?
                  I am confused by your argument. You are saying that Hallmark was promoting Real American Values, but they were the ones who fired the Dixons. How can you say they were promoting Real American (Christian) values if they would fire two Christians for being too religious? Before you say that it was the woman (what is she doing working I wonder?) who fired the Dixon's fault, you should know that in the U.S. there isn't a distinction between an employer working in his or her duties and the company itself (so what the employee does, as long as it is part of her job, causes the employer to be liable).

                  It also does not appear to me that Hallmark was particularly Christian since the article which I read made mention that the hanging of relgious decorations would violate their own policy.
                  Genesis 4:12: When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

                  Numbers 35:19: The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer: when he meeteth him, he shall slay him.

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                  • Billy Bob Jenkins
                    Family Man of the Year 2010-2013
                    About as Straight and Manly as you can get
                    Hates anal sex. And trees.
                    True Christian™
                    • May 2010
                    • 8337

                    #10
                    Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

                    Originally posted by Higgins View Post
                    I am confused by your argument. You are saying that Hallmark was promoting Real American Values, but they were the ones who fired the Dixons. How can you say they were promoting Real American (Christian) values if they would fire two Christians for being too religious? Before you say that it was the woman (what is she doing working I wonder?) who fired the Dixon's fault, you should know that in the U.S. there isn't a distinction between an employer working in his or her duties and the company itself (so what the employee does, as long as it is part of her job, causes the employer to be liable).

                    It also does not appear to me that Hallmark was particularly Christian since the article which I read made mention that the hanging of relgious decorations would violate their own policy.
                    Bobby Joe was simply saying that the Dixons were trying to send the message that Hallmark were True Christians(tm), but Hallmark wouldn't have that.
                    The Only Real Climate Change Will be Hell!

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                    • Bobby-Joe
                      Landover Security Superviser
                      Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
                      NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 18405

                      #11
                      Re: Fired For Being Too Religious? Can't Be

                      Originally posted by Billy Bob Jenkins View Post
                      Bobby Joe was simply saying that the Dixons were trying to send the message that Hallmark were True Christians™, but Hallmark wouldn't have that.
                      Exactly!

                      It also logically goes to follow that by firing the Dixons the Hallmark Apartments loath REAL American values and wants their building filled with whores, gay sex orgies, crack dens and model railroads. While the martyrdom of good and TRUE Christians like Dixons should also inspire and outrage a REAL Christian it does beg the question why the Hallmark Apartment owners aren't in jail for running a house of ill repute.

                      Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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