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  • Lost Sheep McUinnean
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    • Nov 2009
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    #1

    Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmoney!

    I have a few questions on this, mainly as I don't totally understand Chinese.
    Why? How? What would be the outcome of this?

    And more importantly: What will God do to punish this impudence?

    China's Hu Jintao: Currency system is 'product of past'

    Hu Jintao is due to visit Washington this week
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    Chinese President Hu Jintao has said the international currency system dominated by the US dollar is a "product of the past".
    Mr Hu also said China was taking steps to replace it with the yuan, its own currency, but acknowledged that would be a "fairly long process".
    The remarks to two US newspapers come ahead of a state visit by the Chinese leader to Washington this week.
    They reflect continuing tensions over currency issues between the two powers.
    The remarks to the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal came in the form of written responses to questions. Mr Hu also reiterated criticism of a decision by the US Federal Reserve to inject $600bn into the economy, which some argue will weaken the dollar at the expense of other countries' exports.
    "The monetary policy of the United States has a major impact on global liquidity and capital flows and therefore, the liquidity of the US dollar should be kept at a reasonable and stable level," President Hu said.
    'Important contribution' Meanwhile, he disagreed with suggestions that letting the yuan appreciate in value would help China to combat inflation.
    He said inflation, which reached 5.1% in November - its highest level in 28 months - was "on the whole moderate and controllable".
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    Making the renminbi an international currency will be a fairly long process”
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    "We have the confidence, conditions and ability to stabilise the overall price level," he said.
    Beijing has previously come under pressure over its currency from the US, which has accused China of manipulating the yuan to help boost Chinese exports.
    On Sunday night, three Democratic senators announced they would introduce a new bill to increase penalties the US considers to be "currency manipulators".
    However, the move is unlikely to receive support from senior Republicans - who recently took control of the House of Representatives.
    The new House speaker, John Boehner, voted against another bill that failed last year that would have helped US companies challenge currency subsidies.
    Currency reservations Despite criticism of the current system, Mr Hu said he believed it would be a long time before the yuan - or renminbi (RM - was accepted as a global currency.
    "China has made important contribution to the world economy in terms of total economic output and trade, and the RMB has played a role in the world economic development," he said.
    "But making the RMB an international currency will be a fairly long process."
    Some economists suggest that China's growth strategy - with its focus on exports and state-led investment - may be incompatible with Mr Hu's currency ambitions.
    In order for the yuan to oust the dollar as a global reserve currency, international central banks and investors would need to be able to get their hands on huge amounts of the currency.
    Yet neither of the ways in which China could supply the world with more yuan is at all appealing to Beijing, according to Michael Pettis, economist at Beijing University.
    He says the country could start running big trade deficits with the rest of the world - just as the US has been doing - and finance them by selling their currency to their trade partners.
    Or it could allow foreign investors to pour their money into Chinese financial assets - like shares, bonds or yuan bank accounts - matched by similar Chinese investments in the rest of the world.
    But Mr Pettis warns that for the numbers to add up, China would need to do these things on an unprecedented scale, which is likely to be unpalatable to the authorities.
    Either of these moves is likely to go with an increase in the yuan's value, making Chinese exporters less competitive.
    And they may also fuel speculative asset bubbles in China - something that Beijing has been trying to clamp down on of late.
  • Tyreese
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    • Jan 2011
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    #2
    Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

    Originally posted by Lost Sheep McUinnean View Post
    I have a few questions on this, mainly as I don't totally understand Chinese.
    Why? How? What would be the outcome of this?

    And more importantly: What will God do to punish this impudence?

    [B]
    why? because the us is the only country that can just print more money to pay off it's debts, and that's what's been happening man. the more money printed the more the dollar is devalued. the us won't be a worldwide currency for very long.

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    • Lost Sheep McUinnean
      Linguistics and Translation Consultant
      True Christian™
      • Nov 2009
      • 2193

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      Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

      Originally posted by Tyreese View Post
      why? because the us is the only country that can just print more money to pay off it's debts, and that's what's been happening man. the more money printed the more the dollar is devalued. the us won't be a worldwide currency for very long.
      and so the solution is to make Americans use Chinese currency? What are they going to do? Flood the markets with even MORE unnecessary poor-quality plastic toys?! Yeah, go on, pull the other yuan.

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      • Cranky Old Man
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        • Jan 2010
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        Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

        Originally posted by Tyreese View Post
        why? because the us is the only country that can just print more money to pay off it's debts, and that's what's been happening man. the more money printed the more the dollar is devalued. the us won't be a worldwide currency for very long.
        You clearly do not understand global economics.

        Either we print more money, our products get cheaper and our export improves. Or we don't print money and the value of the Dollar increases and we get cheaper oil. We cannot lose, as we are America!
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        To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
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        • Tyreese
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          Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

          Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
          You clearly do not understand global economics.

          Either we print more money, our products get cheaper and our export improves. Or we don't print money and the value of the Dollar increases and we get cheaper oil. We cannot lose, as we are America!
          the more dollars there are in circulation the less they're worth, that's how it works man.. that's all im saying.

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          • Lost Sheep McUinnean
            Linguistics and Translation Consultant
            True Christian™
            • Nov 2009
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            #6
            Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

            Originally posted by Tyreese View Post
            the more dollars there are in circulation the less they're worth, that's how it works man.. that's all im saying.
            That kind of fallacy was what happened during the Irish Potato famine.

            'The less spuds in circulation, the more they're worth'.

            All it meant in the end was less Irish.

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            • Tyreese
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              #7
              Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

              Originally posted by Lost Sheep McUinnean View Post
              That kind of fallacy was what happened during the Irish Potato famine.

              'The less spuds in circulation, the more they're worth'.

              All it meant in the end was less Irish.
              uhh ok

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              • James Dewitt
                #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                • Jan 2010
                • 6267

                #8
                Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                Originally posted by Tyreese View Post
                the more dollars there are in circulation the less they're worth, that's how it works man.. that's all im saying.
                Let me try and explain it in a way that you might understand.

                If the owner of a cotton plantation only plants 1/2 of his land with cotton, it is only Worth 1/2 of his earning potential. Therefore the more cotton that is planted the more money he makes. The more money he makes means the he can hire more colored people to pick it. We call it economics in the world of high finance.

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                • Tyreese
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                  Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                  Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                  Let me try and explain it in a way that you might understand.

                  If the owner of a cotton plantation only plants 1/2 of his land with cotton, it is only Worth 1/2 of his earning potential. Therefore the more cotton that is planted the more money he makes. The more money he makes means the he can hire more colored people to pick it. We call it economics in the world of high finance.
                  that's a bad example homie, you can't be comparing a 21st century global currency to cotton. it's totally different. no logic is universal man, now let me try and explain this to you. you have a cool shady green piece of paper that's worth only so much, and the more of them there are then the more common your piece is, and the less valueble it becomes as more and more surface.

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                  • James Dewitt
                    #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 6267

                    #10
                    Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                    Originally posted by Tyreese View Post
                    that's a bad example homie, you can't be comparing a 21st century global currency to cotton. it's totally different. no logic is universal man, now let me try and explain this to you. you have a cool shady green piece of paper that's worth only so much, and the more of them there are then the more common your piece is, and the less valueble it becomes as more and more surface.

                    Man trying to explain global economics to a Nigra is hard. Look money is not like an antique, where they become more valuable with age a rarity. A dollar is worth just that a dollar, 4 quarters, 10 dimes, 20 nickles, 100 pennies. The more dollars you have is better. If we quit printing dollars only the rich will have them. According to you if I buy 10,000 lbs of gold it wont be worth as much because I have so much of it.

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                    • Lost Sheep McUinnean
                      Linguistics and Translation Consultant
                      True Christian™
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2193

                      #11
                      Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                      You might be wasting your time explaining it Brother Jim. Let him buy his 20 head of dairy cattle and slaughter three fourths of them to up the value of the remainder.

                      Hard times come around, he'll be the one with the cheeseless grin waiting for famine to strike.

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                      • Tyreese
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                        Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                        Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                        Man trying to explain global economics to a Nigra is hard. Look money is not like an antique, where they become more valuable with age a rarity. A dollar is worth just that a dollar, 4 quarters, 10 dimes, 20 nickles, 100 pennies. The more dollars you have is better. If we quit printing dollars only the rich will have them. According to you if I buy 10,000 lbs of gold it wont be worth as much because I have so much of it.
                        man you're gonna diss me like that but you read plain and straight on in my last talk man i just said, logics aint universal. i don't know how money or the economy works, and it dont matter to me. im set in life. i just applied common sense. if what you say is dead on man, then it's not common, theres complexity in it. and im african american man.

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                        • Tyreese
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                          Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                          and man who you think you are to using that word, jesus was from the middle east, he was black. it aint nothin on me but you just tryin to be offensive. bunch of mean fat white people is what yall are. im a jolly stoner tryin to get my groove on is all. i've studied economics, the price of gold is standard and your theory only works for gold.

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                          • James Dewitt
                            #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                            • Jan 2010
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                            Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                            Originally posted by Tyreese View Post
                            and man who you think you are to using that word, jesus was from the middle east, he was black. it aint nothin on me but you just tryin to be offensive. bunch of mean fat white people is what yall are. im a jolly stoner tryin to get my groove on is all. i've studied economics, the price of gold is standard and your theory only works for gold.
                            Typical looser Nigra, you just have to play the race card don't ya!

                            Jesus was not I repeat not a " Black " man, Jesus is a Caucasian.

                            Do not come in here and be a racist, that will get you booted faster than a Nigra running down the street with a stolen pie.

                            One last thing True Christians are not fat!

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                            • Tyreese
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                              Re: Chine wants to place USDollar with the Fengshuiorsomethingmon

                              Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                              Typical looser Nigra, you just have to play the race card don't ya!

                              Jesus was not I repeat not a " Black " man, Jesus is a Caucasian.

                              Do not come in here and be a racist, that will get you booted faster than a Nigra running down the street with a stolen pie.

                              One last thing True Christians are not fat!
                              man you lookin awful chunky from here and you sure as hell aint no gym rat like me

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