[Brother_Percy]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Most, if not all of those bible passages you have mentioned Brother Percy is from Old Testament and as such it was commanded to the the ancient nation of Israel. Also, most of those passages, especially those found in the Pentateuch are laws and are to be judged and condemned accordingly by judges and priests of ancient Israel, not decided by mob collective or lone vigilantes.

Yet nowadays our liberal fag-loving Laws won't allow us to conduct God's Judgement on those fully deserving his wrath. I'm not saying we should get a huge mob together, and go on a killing spree, I'm saying that how will God feel that HIS Laws are being hugely ignored in our pathetic Judicial system? How will HE feel that we allow trans-gendered abominations to roam freely, and worse, like that Whore GaGa (I REFUSE to call that freak a "Lady"), have chart topping hits and become false idols to millions of children worldwide? It's disgusting!

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

So the Ten Commandments only apply to the Joos?

In Christ

Absolutely not! The word of god is absolute. But then in times of Israel, there are judges and kings to guide and judge the people righteously. These said judges and kings are the ones that uphold God's law and makes sure it is not violated. Today, a congregation's authority to judge is limited in authority within its congregation and they should let God judge nonbelievers. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Most, if not all of those bible passages you have mentioned Brother Percy is from Old Testament and as such it was commanded to the the ancient nation of Israel. Also, most of those passages, especially those found in the Pentateuch are laws and are to be judged and condemned accordingly by judges and priests of ancient Israel, not decided by mob collective or lone vigilantes.

So the Ten Commandments only apply to the Joos?

In Christ

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Most, if not all of those bible passages you have mentioned Brother Percy is from Old Testament and as such it was commanded to the the ancient nation of Israel. Also, most of those passages, especially those found in the Pentateuch are laws and are to be judged and condemned accordingly by judges and priests of ancient Israel, not decided by mob collective or lone vigilantes.

On the special occasions where God commanded the nation of Israel to exterminate a group of people as a collective, it was commanded by God personally through his prophets and kings. There are even times during war time where the soldiers of Israel did not have to do anything as an angel of God did all the smiting for them.

Or are you assuming the role of judge and you point out who should be killed today, especially as a collective, where only the God can do it?
Are you denouncing the word of god found at James 3:17 that says: "But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits,without partiality, and without hypocrisy?

Do not misunderstand me, if God Himself commands me to kill, I will do it in his name. But since he has not done so, neither through modern day prophets nor kings anointed by God, I would not taint my soul with murder.

[Brother_Percy]

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blah blah blah blah blah ...Christians shouldn't kill anyone.,,,blah blah blah.

Son, you don't seem to know your Bible too well, do you? You seem to me to be one of these liberal fag-loving supermarket Christians, picking and choosing verses to suit your own pathetic needs.

I cant stand those type of sissy Christians, harping on about W.W.J.D. (What would Jesus do?) when they SHOULD be asking W.W.G.K. (Who would God Kill?!)

The Bible is simply crammed full of wonderful passages, where our Loving Lord brutally slaughters, maims, mutilates, tortures, burns to death, kills, drowns and utterly obliterates entire towns full of people, just because one person there ticked him off! Not only that, but he fully expects YOU to do the same!

People need to sit up and take heed here, because it’s a sobering fact that God HATES people, and, as Christians, he wants YOU to hate them too!

God even gives us a list of people he wants us to Kill FOR him! Isn’t our God wonderful? Praise Jesus!

Here are just a few examples of the type of worthless scum our Lord COMMANDS us to help Kill, Slaughter, burn and brutally bludgeon to death with rocks FOR him:


Kill Murderers (Exodus 21:12), Burn Fornicators to Death (Leviticus 21:9), Kill Disobedient Children (Leviticus 20:9), Kill Adulterers (Leviticus 20:10), Kill Followers of Other Religions (Pagans, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists etc) (Exodus 22:19), Kill Non-Believers (Atheists) (2 Chronicles 15:12-13), Kill people who Gather Sticks on the Sabbath (Numbers 15:32-36), Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13), Kill Children who Curse their Father or Mother (Matthew 15:4), Kill Witches (Wiccans) (Exodus 22:17), Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27), Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins on Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21), Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19), Kill people for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16), Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5), Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15), Kill Children Who Make Fun of a Bald Headed Men (2 Kings 2:23-24), Kill Rape-victims (Deuteronomy 22:23-24), Rape and Murder Girls Who Are NOT Virgins (Judges 21:10-24)

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Who says we Christians are going to kill anyone? We'll just pay some unbeliver like an Atheists or a Unitarian to do it. Anyway as the Bible clearly says sinners kill themselves.

Thank you for the clear reply.
First of all, I agree with Bobby Joe that Christians shouldn't kill anyone. Therefore, I think the title of this thread should not be as such. The title promotes that Christians should nuke countries and engage in violence themselves (assuming that the "we" the author of this thread has used is a pronoun for "Christians").

Another that concerns me is that if I pay for someone to kill, isn't that still against my conscience as I had hated and planned to kill someone, even if he is an evil person? God sees what is in our hearts and violence is not one of things I would not want to be seen carrying inside me.

I have more concerns about this subject. Before I state my opinion, I respectfully would like to say that the Bible does not ever contradict itself and neither I am trying to stumble anyone in their faith. I simply want to understand God's word, which as a mortal I may not grasp its full glory but nevertheless I am striving to learn and understand.

Now my other concern is for the text where Jesus says explicitly to love thy enemy. Also, was it not true that God should be the judge to everyone outside the congregation and we are to limit judgement inside the congregation? I do not have the scriptures' book, chapter and verses in hand but I am willing to look for it and post it here if needed.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I believe what Jesus means is that we are meant to be as doves while he is the one that delivers the sword.

Who says we Christians are going to kill anyone? We'll just pay some unbeliver like an Atheists or a Unitarian to do it. Anyway as the Bible clearly says sinners kill themselves.

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Just read it and stop looking for excuses.

I am not looking for excuses, only understanding and knowledge. While the part of my message about being inexperienced can be considered an excuse, I consider it as an admittance of my quest for more knowledge.

If you are referring to my answer to Zechariah, that is not an excuse. It is an statement of my understanding as to what those words refer to. If you can help clarify my understanding or help me gain a new and better one, then with all my attention, I will listen to you and consider your words.

[Redeemed Papist]

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I believe what Jesus means is that we are meant to be as doves while he is the one that delivers the sword.

I have read the bible in its paper media, not just through the internet. Its just I don't have a King James Version bible and I believe you folks respect that version so I search for its KJV through google.

Also, although I do understand a little, I do not claim to understand the whole. That is why i seek guidance in understanding the texts I have read before. Is it not true that inexperienced ones should seek guidance from more experienced people when unsure?

Just read it and stop looking for excuses.

[librarian]

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Don't stop there. Keep reading:

(Matthew 10:33-34) "33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

How many doves do you see toting swords around?



You keep cherry-picking verses that you think will shake our faith, but you are simply revealing yourself to be a Google-addicted false prophet (and a poor one at that). Try reading the whole KJV Bible cover-to-cover and not doing searches that you think will trip us up: it ain't gonna happen.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

I believe what Jesus means is that we are meant to be as doves while he is the one that delivers the sword.

I have read the bible in its paper media, not just through the internet. Its just I don't have a King James Version bible and I believe you folks respect that version so I search for its KJV through google.

Also, although I do understand a little, I do not claim to understand the whole. That is why i seek guidance in understanding the texts I have read before. Is it not true that inexperienced ones should seek guidance from more experienced people when unsure?

[Zechariah Smyth]

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I don't quite understand. I am new here and I am trying to understand about bible truth so help me out as warranted.

But is encouraging killing not in accordance to the principle of Christian behavior stated in Matthew 10:16?
"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and as harmless as doves."

Don't stop there. Keep reading:

(Matthew 10:33-34) "33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

How many doves do you see toting swords around?



You keep cherry-picking verses that you think will shake our faith, but you are simply revealing yourself to be a Google-addicted false prophet (and a poor one at that). Try reading the whole KJV Bible cover-to-cover and not doing searches that you think will trip us up: it ain't gonna happen.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

I don't quite understand. I am new here and I am trying to understand about bible truth so help me out as warranted.

But is encouraging killing not in accordance to the principle of Christian behavior stated in Matthew 10:16?
"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and as harmless as doves."

[Bobby Joe Wayne]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Pastor Martin along with a group of other Christian Baptist Pastors also revealed the Pentecostal false Christian sodomite Robert Kayanja

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kayanja

In the lifetime of ministry he has encountered criticism/controversy in his trade as well as in personal life. In late 2000 he was associated with smuggling and dealing in wine business and evading taxes an unbecoming habit for a christian ambassador. Government organs (the Uganda Police and Uganda Revenue Authority)working hand-in-hand investigated the matter which was found to be false and contrary to what media had published. Smugglers only used (the then site of) his now finished home but were eventually apprehended and convicted.

Shortly after, a group of city Pastors ganged up against Pastor Robert Kayanja with conspiracy to defame, injure and tarnish all that he stands for; family, ministry and personality. Pastors Michael Kyazze, Solomon Male, Bob Kayiira and Martin Ssempa levied sodomy allegations against Pastor Robert Kayanja; that he had sodomised a number of young men in his ministry. With the involvement of the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP)law suits were filled and both complainant and defendant summoned to court. Unlike some print media circulation, police has never exonerated the "city pastors'" of criminal offenses committed against pastor Robert Kayanja. On the contrary they were brought to book to answer a series of criminal charges which they still battle in court.
Their allegations have since been found wanting having been validated by the various appropriate and qualified authorities in all respective specialties relating to the case. Medical personnel including the police surgeon verified and cleared Pastor Robert Kayanja of any sodomy allegations against the said young men.The plot engineered by the group, conniving with hoodwinked teenagers as witnesses assisting them in filling complaints(who have since retracted their earlier "doctored" statements)is being frustrated each day during court proceedings. Upon the recent (15/12/2011) ruling, Grade One Magistrate John Patrick Wekesa;“Investigations yielded contrary results but the accused persons are hereby put on defence. However you have three options; you are free to make sworn statements but you be warned that if you do so, you will be cross-examined, [secondly you can make unsworn statements and finally you could choose neither and court will make a decision]...” He ruled after the state closed its case with 21 witnesses having testified in the controversial case whose trial started in January.
As a champion and crusader of a holistic living in light of belief and faith, Pastor Robert Kayanja rallies his audience to live better, prosperous, healthy and wealthy against which there is no law. For this he has been confronted with attack labeling him a mischievous preacher and one derailing his followers. To this he has always rhetorically given everyone (who believes in the Holy Bible)a thought on which to reflect and ponder; "Is the Bible true or false, and is God a lair?"

How dare he even think that The Bible might be false and that God might be a liar?! Typical Pentecostal false Christian

Anyways, what do you expect from someone who is born in a town called Gayaza? I sure hope this sinner recieves the death penalty for the sodomy he commited and his thoughts and words about The Bible and God!

[Bobby Joe Wayne]

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While all Independent Baptists are Evangelicals, not all Evangelicals are Independent Baptists. As a representative of God, I have looked into the matter, and as it turns out, the Wandegeya Baptist Church where Pastor Martin Ssempa was converted either does not have a website, or has it well hidden in the internets. For this reason I have been unable to determine whether or not they are bonafide Independent Baptists. It is far more likely that they are members of the Baptist World Alliance.

In any case, there must be ten Independent Baptists in a given town for the Lord to spare it.

I think the problem is that they dont have internet in Africa, all things we know so far about Brother Ssempa is promising:
- he is officially a Baptist
- he is a Baptist Pastor
- he has a wife
- he has 4 sons
- he wants The Bible to be the law
- he recieved Master of Arts degree from Philadelphia Biblical University
- he officially wants to enforce death penalty on all sodomites
- he has sermons where he tells other Baptists the truth about the evils of the gay deathstyle
- he loves Jesus
- he loves America

Sounds fine, now we only have to know if he is an Independent Baptist or not!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Their future president Pastor Martin is a Baptist who studied Christianity at an American Christian university, hopefully he will force the entire country to become Baptists

While all Independent Baptists are Evangelicals, not all Evangelicals are Independent Baptists. As a representative of God, I have looked into the matter, and as it turns out, the Wandegeya Baptist Church where Pastor Martin Ssempa was converted either does not have a website, or has it well hidden in the internets. For this reason I have been unable to determine whether or not they are bonafide Independent Baptists. It is far more likely that they are members of the Baptist World Alliance.

In any case, there must be ten Independent Baptists in a given town for the Lord to spare it.

Genesis 18


23And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
24Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
25That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
26And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
27And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD, which am but dust and ashes:
28Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.
29And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty's sake.
30And he said unto him, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.
31And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty's sake.
32And he said, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.
33And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.