[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Who says we Christians are going to kill anyone? We'll just pay some unbeliver like an Atheists or a Unitarian to do it. Anyway as the Bible clearly says sinners kill themselves.

Thank you for the clear reply.
First of all, I agree with Bobby Joe that Christians shouldn't kill anyone. Therefore, I think the title of this thread should not be as such. The title promotes that Christians should nuke countries and engage in violence themselves (assuming that the "we" the author of this thread has used is a pronoun for "Christians").

Another that concerns me is that if I pay for someone to kill, isn't that still against my conscience as I had hated and planned to kill someone, even if he is an evil person? God sees what is in our hearts and violence is not one of things I would not want to be seen carrying inside me.

I have more concerns about this subject. Before I state my opinion, I respectfully would like to say that the Bible does not ever contradict itself and neither I am trying to stumble anyone in their faith. I simply want to understand God's word, which as a mortal I may not grasp its full glory but nevertheless I am striving to learn and understand.

Now my other concern is for the text where Jesus says explicitly to love thy enemy. Also, was it not true that God should be the judge to everyone outside the congregation and we are to limit judgement inside the congregation? I do not have the scriptures' book, chapter and verses in hand but I am willing to look for it and post it here if needed.

[Brother_Percy]

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blah blah blah blah blah ...Christians shouldn't kill anyone.,,,blah blah blah.

Son, you don't seem to know your Bible too well, do you? You seem to me to be one of these liberal fag-loving supermarket Christians, picking and choosing verses to suit your own pathetic needs.

I cant stand those type of sissy Christians, harping on about W.W.J.D. (What would Jesus do?) when they SHOULD be asking W.W.G.K. (Who would God Kill?!)

The Bible is simply crammed full of wonderful passages, where our Loving Lord brutally slaughters, maims, mutilates, tortures, burns to death, kills, drowns and utterly obliterates entire towns full of people, just because one person there ticked him off! Not only that, but he fully expects YOU to do the same!

People need to sit up and take heed here, because it’s a sobering fact that God HATES people, and, as Christians, he wants YOU to hate them too!

God even gives us a list of people he wants us to Kill FOR him! Isn’t our God wonderful? Praise Jesus!

Here are just a few examples of the type of worthless scum our Lord COMMANDS us to help Kill, Slaughter, burn and brutally bludgeon to death with rocks FOR him:


Kill Murderers (Exodus 21:12), Burn Fornicators to Death (Leviticus 21:9), Kill Disobedient Children (Leviticus 20:9), Kill Adulterers (Leviticus 20:10), Kill Followers of Other Religions (Pagans, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists etc) (Exodus 22:19), Kill Non-Believers (Atheists) (2 Chronicles 15:12-13), Kill people who Gather Sticks on the Sabbath (Numbers 15:32-36), Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13), Kill Children who Curse their Father or Mother (Matthew 15:4), Kill Witches (Wiccans) (Exodus 22:17), Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27), Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins on Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21), Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19), Kill people for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16), Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5), Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15), Kill Children Who Make Fun of a Bald Headed Men (2 Kings 2:23-24), Kill Rape-victims (Deuteronomy 22:23-24), Rape and Murder Girls Who Are NOT Virgins (Judges 21:10-24)

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Most, if not all of those bible passages you have mentioned Brother Percy is from Old Testament and as such it was commanded to the the ancient nation of Israel. Also, most of those passages, especially those found in the Pentateuch are laws and are to be judged and condemned accordingly by judges and priests of ancient Israel, not decided by mob collective or lone vigilantes.

On the special occasions where God commanded the nation of Israel to exterminate a group of people as a collective, it was commanded by God personally through his prophets and kings. There are even times during war time where the soldiers of Israel did not have to do anything as an angel of God did all the smiting for them.

Or are you assuming the role of judge and you point out who should be killed today, especially as a collective, where only the God can do it?
Are you denouncing the word of god found at James 3:17 that says: "But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits,without partiality, and without hypocrisy?

Do not misunderstand me, if God Himself commands me to kill, I will do it in his name. But since he has not done so, neither through modern day prophets nor kings anointed by God, I would not taint my soul with murder.

[Brother Harold Porter]

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Most, if not all of those bible passages you have mentioned Brother Percy is from Old Testament and as such it was commanded to the the ancient nation of Israel. Also, most of those passages, especially those found in the Pentateuch are laws and are to be judged and condemned accordingly by judges and priests of ancient Israel, not decided by mob collective or lone vigilantes.

So the Ten Commandments only apply to the Joos?

In Christ

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

So the Ten Commandments only apply to the Joos?

In Christ

Absolutely not! The word of god is absolute. But then in times of Israel, there are judges and kings to guide and judge the people righteously. These said judges and kings are the ones that uphold God's law and makes sure it is not violated. Today, a congregation's authority to judge is limited in authority within its congregation and they should let God judge nonbelievers. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Most, if not all of those bible passages you have mentioned Brother Percy is from Old Testament and as such it was commanded to the the ancient nation of Israel. Also, most of those passages, especially those found in the Pentateuch are laws and are to be judged and condemned accordingly by judges and priests of ancient Israel, not decided by mob collective or lone vigilantes.

Yet nowadays our liberal fag-loving Laws won't allow us to conduct God's Judgement on those fully deserving his wrath. I'm not saying we should get a huge mob together, and go on a killing spree, I'm saying that how will God feel that HIS Laws are being hugely ignored in our pathetic Judicial system? How will HE feel that we allow trans-gendered abominations to roam freely, and worse, like that Whore GaGa (I REFUSE to call that freak a "Lady"), have chart topping hits and become false idols to millions of children worldwide? It's disgusting!

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Yet nowadays our liberal fag-loving Laws won't allow us to conduct God's Judgement on those fully deserving his wrath. I'm not saying we should get a huge mob together, and go on a killing spree, I'm saying that how will God feel that his Laws are being hugely ignored in our pathetic Judicial system? How will HE feel that we allow trans-gendered abominations to roam freely, and worse, like that Whore GaGa (I REFUSE to call that freak a "Lady"), have chart topping hits and become false idols to millions of children worldwide? It's disgusting!

Happily, I completely agree. But as I have said before, we should persevere under these times of lawlessness while adhering to the word of God. As much as we hate evil, we cannot let that hate rule our hearts let the love for God dominate. Praising God in our own ways and waiting when God will unleash his judgement. Until then, we should refrain from judging other people as we are all sinners and cannot judge another sinner. God in all his glory, has reserved the right for he can see into the hearts of everyone.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

Today, a congregation's authority to judge is limited in authority within its congregation and they should let God judge nonbelievers. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)

The True Christian™ is instructed otherwise. And we are judged only by God Himself.

1 Corinthians 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

In Christ

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

The True Christian™ is instructed otherwise. And we are judged only by God Himself.

1 Corinthians 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

In Christ

I do not know how True Christian™ is instructed but I believe in adhering and following the Bible in all of its texts. As I have mentioned time and before, I seek the truth and any enlightenment that comes my way is welcomed.
Perhaps there is a way to combine both of the mentioned Bible texts without contradicting each other.
Any suggestions?

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

I have an idea. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. But I believe what both those texts mean is that we are given the spirit of God to make judgement of all things, understanding them so we can make the right choice. But judicial judgement of outside the congregation belongs to only God.

[Brother_Percy]

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Praising God in our own ways.

It all depends on the ways you praise God, friend. Do you go around telling everyone that Jesus was all about love and peace and loves everyone, picking and choosing parts you like just like a liberal sissy, OR do you tell them the TRUTH about our Lord?

Remember, the Bible teaches us that when Jesus returns to Earth he will have white hair, eyes of fire, feet of brass, and has a sword sticking out of his mouth. All those who do not repent and turn to Jesus (ie. atheists, Jews, Wiccans, Buddists, Hindus, Rag-heads) will be fought and slaughtered by Jesus (with the sword sticking out his mouth). Glory!(Revelation 1.13, 2.16)

Jesus will take "vengeance on them that know not God" by burning them forever "in flaming fire". Praise! (2 Thessalonians 1.7)

All those who obey Jesus until the end (ie. Us True Christians) will rule everyone else with an iron rod. They'll even get to smash the others into smithereens! Glory! (Revelation 2.26)

The only way into Heaven in through Jesus. Whoever denies "that Jesus is the Christ" is a liar and an antichrist, and will burn in Hell for all eternity for it! Praise! (1 John 2.22) All non-Christians are deceivers and antichrists (2 John 7)

It REALLY irritates me when liberal Christians try to ignore the Christ of Revelation, even though that's the Christ we're gonna get when he returns, and try to focus on a few miracles he did over 2,000 years ago.

Sure, they were pretty spectacular, but I CAN'T WAIT to see him with his mouth-sword, hacking and slashing apart all those non-believers! Wow! Glory! That'll SURE be one impressive sight! Now THAT'S the Christ I worship! Praise Jesus!

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

I do not ignore the Jesus of revelation whose enemies will be put to judgement, and neither should you ignore the Jesus that shows compassion and love.

As for my ways of praising God, I am in the process of understanding and learning. I am on a quest for truth as it was written that the truth shall set us free.


About my post earlier, my justification for this idea is that there are many kinds of judgement. There are judgement carried out by judges and people with authority which for the sake of simplicity, I will call judicial judgement. Also, there is a kind of judgement that means decision making.

If anyone has a knowledge of ancient languages and perhaps can demystify us on the original words used by those Bible texts, we can make sure that no meaning is lost in translation.

[Brother_Percy]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

I do not ignore the Jesus of revelation whose enemies will be put to judgement, and neither should you ignore the Jesus that shows compassion and love.

I ignore NOTHING, friend. I just do not like the "hippy fag-loving Jesus" that sissy liberals Christians LIKE YOU make him out to be.

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

It all depends on the ways you praise God, friend. Do you go around telling everyone that Jesus was all about love and peace and loves everyone, picking and choosing parts you like just like a liberal sissy, OR do you tell them the TRUTH about our Lord?

Remember, the Bible teaches us that when Jesus returns to Earth he will have white hair, eyes of fire, feet of brass, and has a sword sticking out of his mouth. All those who do not repent and turn to Jesus (ie. atheists, Jews, Wiccans, Buddists, Hindus, Rag-heads) will be fought and slaughtered by Jesus (with the sword sticking out his mouth). Glory!(Revelation 1.13, 2.16)

Jesus will take "vengeance on them that know not God" by burning them forever "in flaming fire". Praise! (2 Thessalonians 1.7)

All those who obey Jesus until the end (ie. Us True Christians) will rule everyone else with an iron rod. They'll even get to smash the others into smithereens! Glory! (Revelation 2.26)

The only way into Heaven in through Jesus. Whoever denies "that Jesus is the Christ" is a liar and an antichrist, and will burn in Hell for all eternity for it! Praise! (1 John 2.22) All non-Christians are deceivers and antichrists (2 John 7)

It REALLY irritates me when liberal Christians try to ignore the Christ of Revelation, even though that's the Christ we're gonna get when he returns, and try to focus on a few miracles he did over 2,000 years ago.

Sure, they were pretty spectacular, but I CAN'T WAIT to see him with his mouth-sword, hacking and slashing apart all those non-believers! Wow! Glory! That'll SURE be one impressive sight! Now THAT'S the Christ I worship! Praise Jesus!

Brother Percy, I am not passing judgement to you or condemning your beliefs, but I cannot help but notice you are so fixated on the violent aspects of the return of Jesus. God was not happy when he had to kill some of his nation to correct their erred ways, instead he was sad. I must tell you of Psalms 11:5 and please meditate on its message.

[librarian]

Re: Countries We Should Nuke?

I ignore NOTHING, friend. I just do not like the "hippy fag-loving Jesus" that sissy liberals Christians LIKE YOU make him out to be.

Nowhere in my posts have I claimed that God loves fags.
God is love (1 John 4:8) and likewise He also owns vengeance (Romans 12:19).