[gregincambodia]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

Not quite. What I mean is that I want to know questions' answers that they, as Christians, ought to know the answer to (like why they ARE Christians), and they are not responding with an answer. Instead, they are insulting my intelligence.

Christians are Christians because they love and fear God. Are you really so dim witted that you did not know that?

[The_Halfwit_Atheist]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

And straight away, we have an excellent example.

Working backwards from your conclusion:

Therefore God does not exist.

OK, now what was it you had just before that:

Christians can not answer without denying God's existence.

It may come as some surprise to you, but Christians’ answers in my experience when I was a heathen wretch never included the datum that God did not exist. Mohammedans’ answers never presupposed that Mohanned did not exist, Concucians’ answers never presupposed that Conficius did not exist (although they would probably agree that it didn't matter whether he did or not because the analects exist and that is what they follow), Sikhs’ answers do not deny the existence of Guru Nanak and, as far as I am aware, Hindus do not deny the existence of whatever goblin they're wordhipping today when they reply. So far so good.

So next up, moving back in your argument, we should come to tha actual question you say I'm unable to answer without denying God's existence:

I am an atheist. I like to ask perfectly reasonable questions

That's it. Not an argument at all. I don't know what it is. It's not really a statement, just a sort of unrelated gobbledygooks.

How would you respond to this, I wonder?

I am a Christian. I like to ask perfectly reasonable questions because atheists can not answer them without accepting the existence of God. Therefore, God must exist.

That was not my question. That is a statement. My questions were far, far back in the forums. Please go and check them, then post a reply to them.

[Alphonse Alban]

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That was not my question. That is a statement. My questions were far, far back in the forums.

Far back in the forums you stated that you are wrong and that you lost. Remember?
If you have a question, go ahead and ask it. Just don't be so afraid of the answers.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

There COULD be a SWAT team above my roof right now in an invisible flying yo-yo pulled by Barney the Dinosaur. I can not disprove it, so it must be there?

,,I read and thought "Who's this nutter?" since obviously that would be very easy to disprove by just looking in a mirror. So, in accordance with the terms of service I had agreed to when I joined the forum, I sashayed off to the introduction page to find out but can you imagine my disappointment [No, ed.] when all I got in response to my request was a curt:

Saddened and forlorn in my heart but buoyed in my spirit by The Holy Ghost who comforts those He loves when we would otherwise be distressed at the appalling state of secularist education, I suggest that you visit the introduction forum here.

STEP 2 How are we going so far? [He doesn't know what you're talking about, ed.]
This can be tricky, it involves colour and shape recognition and reading comprehension. See if you can find one of these:

STEP 3 Click it.

STEP 4 Robert's your mother's fancy man.

I woild like to apologise to the admins for my poor spelling in the last post.
I am having some plumbing done at present and they have removed the
laundry trough thing and some taps and a washing machine in the next
room and had started making the worst banging and crashing which is no
excuse, I accept that. It won't happen again.

[Holy Henry]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

That was not my question. That is a statement. My questions were far, far back in the forums. Please go and check them, then post a reply to them.

And you still haven't answered why your so angry with God and why you hate Him so much.

[MitzaLizalor]

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It saddens me when someone is so

… angry with God

But there is nothing new in that when people are dissatisfied with God's lovingkindness. And even in the face of His tendermercy they will pout and sulk because they

… hate Him so much.

JONAH 3
8 [the King of Nineveh speaking]…let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
4:1 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry.
2 And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.
3 Therefore now, O LORD, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.
4 Then said the LORD, Doest thou well to be angry?
5 So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city.
KJV .. look up

Can you imagine Jonah scowling there in his booth? I think of him like one of those little men who sit at ferries in the countryside, but someone has built a bridge and everyone drives across that.

Yet even in the face of such churlish behaviour, God is kind.

JONAH 4
6 And the LORD God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd.
7 But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered.
8 And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.
9 And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death.
KJV .. look up . context

Having smitten the gourd with worms and zapped Jonah with a vehement east wind, God mentions the anger issue again, although Jonah is unconscious at the time. Let us pray that the gourd of understanding will grow over the anger of this atheist and that the worm of conscience yet begnaw his soul that blessings may reach him, even in his bilious wrath.

[The_Halfwit_Atheist]

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And you still haven't answered why your so angry with God and why you hate Him so much.

Henry and MitzaLizalor.
Henry, first.
I have. I am not angry with your god. I do not hate him. I simply do not believe in him. I do not believe he exists. I believe he never has. End of story.
Mitza.
There COULD be a SWAT team above my roof right now in an invisible flying yo-yo pulled by Barney the Dinosaur. I can not disprove it, so it must be there?
,,I read and thought "Who's this nutter?" since obviously that would be very easy to disprove by just looking in a mirror. So, in accordance with the terms of service I had agreed to when I joined the forum, I sashayed off to the introduction page to find out but can you imagine my disappointment [No, ed.] when all I got in response to my request was a curt:

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Saddened and forlorn in my heart but buoyed in my spirit by The Holy Ghost who comforts those He loves when we would otherwise be distressed at the appalling state of secularist education, I suggest that you visit the introduction forum here.

STEP 2 How are we going so far? [He doesn't know what you're talking about, ed.]
This can be tricky, it involves colour and shape recognition and reading comprehension. See if you can find one of these:



STEP 3 Click it.

STEP 4 Robert's your mother's fancy man.


I woild like to apologise to the admins for my poor spelling in the last post.
I am having some plumbing done at present and they have removed the
laundry trough thing and some taps and a washing machine in the next
room and had started making the worst banging and crashing which is no
excuse, I accept that. It won't happen again.
What does a MIRROR have to do with anything? I said that waaaaaaay, way back at the beginning of this threargument (that is a word now). It had to do with a comment one of your fellow Christians made. Please look back through the thread, and read why I said that. Believe me, I had much of the same 'Who is this moron' reaction when I saw the post that started the thread, by Brother Percy.
Step One:
Oh, right. There IS no step one.
Step Two:
What?
Step Three:
I do not have permissions to create threads.
Step Four:
Okay, then?
As for plants, well...
Why was your god so busy back then, but does not give ANY SIGN OF HIS EXISTENCE NOW? It would certainly help matters like this... But until he gives me any sign of his existence, I am a disbeliever. AND a disbelieber. Actually, I do not care what your god does, I will never be a Belieber.

[MitzaLizalor]

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What does a MIRROR have to do with anything? I said that waaaaaaay, way back at the beginning of this threargument (that is a word now). It had to do with a comment one of your fellow Christians made. Please look back through the thread, and read why I said that. Believe me, I had much of the same 'Who is this mormon' reaction when I saw the post that started the thread, by Brother Percy.
Step One:
Oh, right. There IS no step one.
Step Two:
What?
Step Three:
I do not have permissions to create threads.
Step Four:
Okay, then?
As for plants, well...
Why was your god so busy back then, but does not give ANY SIGN OF HIS EXISTENCE NOW? It would certainly help matters like this... But until he gives me any sign of his existence, I am a disbeliever. AND a disbelieber. Actually, I do not care what your god does, I will never be a Belieber.

A. That was your first post. There is nothing earlier to look at. Although there could ba a SWAT team over your head, the merest glance in a mirror would confirm or refute the proposition (although it would not reveal an invisible yo-yo).

B. If you were able to read about where you can post or not post, you will have read that you are invited to post an introduction in the intro. forum as linked. It's that easy.

C. I did look back through your posts. Your first contribution didn't make sense, so I looked for something earlier to provide context. There was nothing. The mirror would reveal the non-existence—or otherwise—of your SWAT team. I do not go on to step 2 of anyone's argument until I have understood step 1.

D. Yes, there is life after

I had another look for your intro post, but guess what? My request met with the same reply



I wonder what happens if you click this?

[The_Halfwit_Atheist]

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A. That was your first post. There is nothing earlier to look at. Although there could ba a SWAT team over your head, the merest glance in a mirror would confirm or refute the proposition (although it would not reveal an invisible yo-yo).

B. If you were able to read about where you can post or not post, you will have read that you are invited to post an introduction in the intro. forum as linked. It's that easy.

C. I did look back through your posts. Your first contribution didn't make sense, so I looked for something earlier to provide context. There was nothing. The mirror would reveal the non-existence—or otherwise—of your SWAT team. I do not go on to step 2 of anyone's argument until I have understood step 1.

D. Yes, there is life after

I had another look for your intro post, but guess what? My request met with the same reply



I wonder what happens if you click this?

6. They don't believe in a loving, personal GOD who cares so much about us He volunteered His only son to die temporarily for our sins! If this didn't happen, how could any of us go to Heaven?

7. They don't believe in a GOD who is actively in control of Earth and our lives. Just the other day me and my wife received a prayer alert from her brother that our nephew would be taking a rather critical test in school, and that we should ask the LORD to guide Him and give Him the knowledge to pass it. The entire family prayed, and do you know what? He got an A+ on that test! That's all the proof I need!

8. Atheists are usually bad at debating and end up saying that you can't prove there IS a god, so why should they obey this religion or that? Well, to that I have to answer, just because you can't disprove GODdoesn't mean He doesn't exist. I can't believe the lack of logic these people have!
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Post 5, page one. Reason 8 is similar to my point. The point I made was a MOCKERY. It was not meant to be taken seriously. I also find it interesting that you made fun of my point. I wonder what you will do when faced with nearly the EXACT SAME point my post had, when the new one is posted by a mod!
Actually, I want to answer the other ones as well.

6. They don't believe in a loving, personal GOD who cares so much about us He volunteered His only son to die temporarily for our sins! If this didn't happen, how could any of us go to Heaven?

We do not believe in Heaven. We believe that Jesus did NOT die so we could go to a heaven that we do not believe in.

7. They don't believe in a GOD who is actively in control of Earth and our lives. Just the other day me and my wife received a prayer alert from her brother that our nephew would be taking a rather critical test in school, and that we should ask the LORD to guide Him and give Him the knowledge to pass it. The entire family prayed, and do you know what? He got an A+ on that test! That's all the proof I need!

In other words, your nephews' passing his Social exam is of FAR more importance to your god then the millions of prayers from people who are starving slowly to death? He would rather watch your nephew write on a sheet of paper than help the millions of impoverished people who have no hope left? He would rather have millions of people who prayed to him for help die a slow, painful, cold, lonely death than have your nephew get a mediocre mark on a test?
Take my advice. Study for the test, instead of this pie-in-the-sky nonsense. It is a lot more useful when you need it. What will your nephew do when he grows up, having passed his tests not by skill or knowledge, but by praying to a god? I am not saying that he has passed all of his exams this way, but seriously? Do you honestly think that when he tries to get a job, all his employers will be interested in was his prayer track record? How about college?

[Holy Henry]

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What a hateful statement.

Your saying that God I happy to help people with exams but will let others starve to death. That's not quite how it works.

The people in the third world are only interested in God when they need something. They don't praise him for all the other blessings in their life and and they don't have a relationship with our Lord like we do.

It's not a one way street.


IN HIS NAME!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!!

What a hateful statement.

Your saying that God I happy to help people with exams but will let others starve to death. That's not quite how it works.

The people in the third world are only interested in God when they need something. They don't praise him for all the other blessings in their life and and they don't have a relationship with our Lord like we do.

It's not a one way street.


IN HIS NAME!

Well said, friend. The idea that God would ignore the man who is dedicated to fearing and obeying the Him is simply unbiblical. God doesn't hear the prayers of the sinners, it's true, but the man who is obedient unto Christ and glorifies Him above all else is triumphant in every way (2 Corinthians 2:14 ). The people in the Third World need only understand this and believe on Jesus, then they too will reap a bountiful harvest (Deuteronomy 28:8).

[The_Halfwit_Atheist]

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Well said, friend. The idea that God would ignore the man who is dedicated to fearing and obeying the Him is simply unbiblical. God doesn't hear the prayers of the sinners, it's true, but the man who is obedient unto Christ and glorifies Him above all else is triumphant in every way (2 Corinthians 2:14 ). The people in the Third World need only understand this and believe on Jesus, then they too will reap a bountiful harvest (Deuteronomy 28:8).

No. It is not well said at all. Those people worship your god as much as or even more than you do. Those people devote what meagre supplies they have to worshipping him. They do not appreciate many comforts of life, because they have next to none. I am sponsoring a child in Uganda. There are many African territories that are ravaged by war, famine and drought. Is that the fault of the people living there, who dedicate some of the little they have to your god?

[Didymus Much]

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No. It is not well said at all. Those people worship your god as much as or even more than you do...

And you can prove this, of course (else you wouldn't be making the claim), just how?

...Those people devote what meagre supplies they have to worshipping him...

If you love them so much, why aren't you telling them to stop wasting their time and precious supplies?

[Alphonse Alban]

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I am sponsoring a child in Uganda

There are some of these sponsoring companies (Like World Vision, who refuses to hire gay people) with some ethics. They are still in the business of making profit. Do you seriously believe that child you are sponsoring sees a dime out of the money you pay for some company? No, you don't. You are only buying clean conscious from sponsoring company for yourself with illusion that you are doing something, instead of actually doing something.

Do something concrete instead. Best thing to do is to send Bibles and convert those heathens to Christianity

[Holy Henry]

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There are some of these sponsoring companies (Like World Vision, who refuses to hire gay people) with some ethics. They are still in the business of making profit. Do you seriously believe that child you are sponsoring sees a dime out of the money you pay for some company? No, you don't. You are only buying clean conscious from sponsoring company for yourself with illusion that you are doing something, instead of actually doing something.

Do something concrete instead. Best thing to do is to send Bibles and convert those heathens to Christianity

And this is what it's all about, the atheist pig is more concerned with making himself feel better. Typical self serving monkey worshipper. That sponsorship money would be better off going to the local church where it will actually be used for the benefit of others.

Let's hope he wakes up from his selfish, ignorant ways.

Glory to The LORD!