does the bible contradict itself?

**Pastor Al E Pistle** · 02-06-2007, 09:55 AM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post

maybe i should do these one at a time so you all have the time to respond to the obvious flaws in the bible....

Has anyone seen God?

* John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time."
* Exodus 33:20 "Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live."
* John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God [Jesus], he hath seen the Father."
* I John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time."

vs.
* Genesis 32:30 "For I have seen God face to face."
* Exodus 33:11 "And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
* Isaiah 6:1 "In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple."
* Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."

hmmm no contradictions there.....

There are no contradictions in the Bible. There are merely idiots who cannot grasp the truth. God put many seeming inconstancies in the Bible to trip up unbelievers who try to pretend they have Divine knowledge. They don't. Maybe I should make a list for YOU and you see if you can find the correct explanations. Come back when you have a masters in Theology and can discuss them intelligently.

How many men did the chief of David's captains kill?
Was Abraham justified by faith or by works?
How many sons did Abraham have?
Was Abiathar the father or the son of Ahimelech?
Who was Abijam's mother?
How were Abijam and Asa related?
How long was the ark of the covenant at Abinadab's house?
How many sons did Absalom have?
When did Absalom rebel against David?
The two contradictory creation accounts.
Who was Achan's father?
How many of Adin's offspring returned from Babylon?
How many of Adonikam's offspring returned from Babylon?
Is it wrong to commit adultery?
Was Ahaz buried with his fathers?
When did Ahaziah begin to reign?
How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
Did the city of Ai exist after Joshua destroyed it?
What tribe was Aijalon from?
Does God want some to go to hell?
Did Jesus tell his disciples everything?
Was David alone when asking for the holy bread at Nob?
Who was Amasa's father?
How should the Ammonites be treated?
Who was Anah?
How long does God's anger last?
Should you answer a fool according to his folly?
What were the names of the apostles?
Where did Jesus first appear to the eleven disciples after the resurrection?
How many of Arah's offspring returned from Babylon?
What was in the ark of the covenant?
Was Asa perfect?
Did Asa remove the high places?
How many of Asaph's offspring returned from Babylon?
When did Jesus ascend into heaven?
Did Peter ask Jesus where he was going?
On what did Jesus ride into Jerusalem?
Is the day of the Lord at hand?
How many of Azgad's offspring returned from Babylon?
When did Baasha die?
How many languages were there before the Tower of Babel was built?
How many of Bani's offspring returned from Babylon?
In whose name is baptism to be performed?
Did Jesus baptize anyone?
Did Jesus tell his apostles to go barefoot and without a staff?
Who was to blame for original sin?
Who was Bashemath's father?
What was the volume of the molten sea in Solomon's temple?
How many of Bebai's offspring returned from Babylon?
Who named Beersheba?
Where did Joseph and Mary live before the birth of Jesus?
Should we believe everything?
How many believers were there at the time of the ascension?
How old was Benjamin when his clan migrated to Egypt?
Who were the sons of Benjamin?
Were Naaman and Ard the sons or the grandsons of Benjamin?
How many of Bethlehem and Netophah's offspring returned from Babylon?
How many of Bezai's offspring returned from Babylon?
How many of Bigvai's offspring returned from Babylon?
Who makes people deaf and blind?
How many blind men were healed near Jericho?
Does the blood of animal sacrifices take away sin?
Should every man bear his own burden?
Who buried Jesus?
On what day did the temple burn?
Did God command the Israelites to make him burnt offerings?
What became of Cain?
Was Jesus taken to Caiaphas or Annas first?
Will those who call on the Lord be delivered?
Can God do anything?
How long was the Egyptian Captivity?
Did the Centurion ask Jesus directly to help his servant?
What did the Centurion call Jesus when he died?
How high was the chapiter?
How many men did David kill?
Is childbearing sinful?
Is it a a good thing to be childish?
How did Jesus respond when questioned by the high priest?
Is circumcision required?
To whom were the cities of Exhtaol and Zoreah given?
Did the cock crow before or after Peter's denial?
What color was Jesus' robe?
Did Jesus forewarn the apostles of his death and resurrection?
Is God the author of confusion?
Is it OK to covet?
Did Jesus say before the cock crow or before the cock crow twice?
Is it OK to curse people?
Will God curse the earth?
Are those who obey the law cursed?
Who carried Jesus' cross?
Generations from David to the Babylonian Captivity
How did David kill Goliath?
The sons of David born in Hebron
Did David sin?
Which sons of David born in Jerusalem?
From which of David's sons was Jesus descended?
When did the women (or woman) arrive at the sepulchre?
Did Adam die on the day he ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?
Is death final?
How many of Delaiah, Tobiah, and Nekoda's offspring returned from Babylon?
To whom did Peter deny knowing Jesus?
Who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?
Can the devil capture us at will?
Is the devil free to roam?
Who can cast out devils in the name of Jesus?
Does God desire animal sacrifices?
Must everyone die?
Is divorce ever permissible?
Does anyone do anything good?
Who put the robe on Jesus?
Did Jesus drink on the cross?
When did the earth dry after the flood?
Does God dwell in darkness or in light?
Will the earth last forever?
What kind of animals may we eat?
How should the Edomites be treated?
Did Lot's daughters think God had killed every man?
Did Luke include everything that Jesus did?
Did Jesus, Mary, and Joseph go to Egypt or Nazareth?
Did the eleven disciples believe the two men?
Was John the Baptist Elijah?
When will the end of the world come?
How should we treat our enemies?
Has anyone ever ascended into heaven?
Was Enoch the sixth or the seventh from Adam?
Will Ephraim return to Egypt?
When was Eve created?
Is everyone descended from Adam and Eve?
Is God the creator of evil?
Do evildoers prosper?
Did Moses see God face to face?
Is Salvation by faith alone?
Is it possible to fall from grace?
How many years of famine?
Is is OK to call your father (or anyone else) father?
Did Moses fear the king?
Should we look for signs in the heavens?
Should we fear God?
Who bought the potter's field?
When did the cursed fig tree die?
When did Jesus curse the fig tree?
Was Jesus the first to rise from the dead?
To whom did Jesus make his first post-resurrection appearance?
How long was the ark afloat?
How long did the flood last?
Did everyone (except for Noah and his family) die in the flood?
Will the righteous flourish?
Which flying creeping things may we eat?
Is it OK to call someone a fool?
Is it good to be foolish?
How many generations from Jesus to Abraham?
Can God be found?
From what were the fowls created?
Do humans have free will?
Were the disciples frightened or gladdened when they saw Jesus?
Does God ever get furious?
Genealogy of Jesus (Mt.1 vs Lk.3)
Genealogy of Jesus (Mt.1 vs 1 Chr.)
When was the Holy Ghost given?
Does God ever lie?
Does God love everyone?
Does God know what is everyone's heart?
How many gods are there?
How much gold, silver, and clothing did the people give?
Who killed Goliath?
Is anyone good?
Who was greater: Jesus or Solomon?
Is it OK for men to have long hair?
Is it good to be happy?
Who hardened the Pharaoh's heart?
Should we follow our own heart?
When was heaven created?
Does God help in times of need?
How many talents of gold did Hiram send Solomon?
Is only God holy?
Who sent the Holy Ghost?
How should homosexuals be treated?
Where did Aaron die?
How many horsemen did David take?
At what time of day was Jesus crucified?
Does God approve of human sacrifices?
Were humans created before or after the other animals?
Which tribe was Hyram from?
Was Zechariah Iddo's son or grandson?
Is it OK to make images?
Which came first: the calling of Peter and Andrew or the imprisonment of John the Baptist?
Is incest forbidden?
Are we punished for the sins of others?
Did Saul inquire of the Lord?
Were the men or angels inside or outside the tomb when the women arrived?
How old was Ishmael when he was abandoned by Abraham?
What were the twelve tribes of Israel?
Who bought the sepulchre in Sechem fromthe sons of Hamor?
Where was Jacob buried?
How many were in Jacob's family when they came into Egypt?
Was Jarius' daughter alive when Jesus was approached?
Did Jeconiah have any sons?
Was Jechoniah the son or the grandson of Josiah?
When did Jehoash become king of Israel?
How old was Jehoachin when he began to reign?
Who succeeded Jehoiakim as king?
Did Jehoiakim die in Babylon or near Jerusalem?
Did Jehoshaphat remove the high places?
Did Abraham know God's name?
Was Jehu the son or grandson of Nimshi?
When was the man (or men) healed?
Did Paul go to Jerusalem from Damascus immediately after his conversion?
How many sons did Jesse have?
When was Jesus born?
Was Joseph the father of Jesus?
Did Jesus know everything?
Did Jesus bear witness of himself?
What will happen to Jews when they die?
Did God commend or condemn Jehu for the killings at Jezreel?
Where was Joash buried?
Who brought evil on Job?
Who cast Jonah into the sea?
Where did John baptize?
Who was Jesus' grandfather on his father's side?
Where did Josiah die?
How did King Josiah die?
How long did Jotham reign?
How did Judas die?
Did Judas identify Jesus with a kiss?
To judge or not to judge.
Does Jesus judge people?
Has there ever been a just person?
Was Keturah Abraham's wife or concubine?
To kill or not to kill.
Who was the father of Kish?
Does God know and see everything?
Who was Korah's father?
Who was Laban's father?
What were the last words of Jesus?
Should we obey human or divine law?
When did God kill Leviathan and the sea dragon?
Is it wrong to lie?
What is the human lifespan?
How many of Lod, Hadid, and Ono's offspring returned from Babylon?
Should we love or hate our brother?
Was Mahli the son of Levi?
Will everyone see the majesty of God?
Did Elisha receive Elijah's mantle before or after Elijah is taken up into heaven?
Is marriage a good thing?
Should Christians be concerned with material things?
Was Moses meek?
Is God merciful?
How many children did Michal have?
Did the Israelites kill every male in Midian?
How many people did God kill for "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab"?
How did God say the Moabites should be treated?
Did any Moabite enter the congregation of the Lord?
Is money good or bad?
Who was Moses' father-in-law?
What's new?
What is the correct new moon sacrifice?
If God likes you, will everyone else like you too?
When did Noah enter the ark?
How should nonbelievers be treated?
Is it OK to take oaths?
Are those who believe Jesus is the Christ of God?
How many officers did Solomon have?
How old was Abraham when he left Haran?
Was the tomb opened or closed when the women arrived?
Do Christians need to obey Old Testament laws?
How many overseers did Solomon have?
How many of Pahathmoab, Jeshua, and Joab's offspring returned from Babylon?
How should parents be treated?
How many days is unleavened bread to be eaten during the passover?
Was Jesus crucified the day before or the day after the Passover meal?
Did Paul see Jesus on the road to Damascus?
Is God warlike or peaceful?
Is the law of God perfect?
Who wrote the Pentateuch?
Were the Pharisees baptized by John?
Can women be church leaders?
How high were the pillars?
Were plants created before or after humans?
Should we try to please others?
How many children of the porters returned from Babylon?
How many men were possessed with devils?
What did Jesus do after his baptism?
How much power did Jesus have?
Do Christians know how to pray?
When David fled to Nob, what was the priest's name?
On what day of the month was Jehoiachin released from prison?
Should Christians pray in public?
Is every word of God pure?
Was Rahab saved by faith or works?
Who raised Jesus from the dead?
Was Jesus a ransom for many or for all?
Can God be found through reason alone?
Did the Mary Magdalene recognize Jesus when he first appeared to her?
Should we rejoice when we see our enemies suffer?
Is it OK for a divorced woman to remarry?
Does God repent?
Does God respect anyone?
Did both thieves revile Jesus?
Is wealth a sign of righteousness or of wickedness?
Has there ever been a righteous person?
Does righteousness come from following the Law?
Is it necessary to keep the sabbath?
How should Sabbath-breakers be punished?
Who may offer sacrifices to God?
Who was the father of Salah?
Did the Samaritans receive Jesus?
Should the gospel be preached to everyone?
Who was Samuel's firstborn son?
Was Samuel a Ephraimite or a Levite?
When did Satan enter Judas?
How did Saul die?
Did Saul's family die with him?
When did David meet Saul?
What must you do to be saved?
Were the Israelites to spare the trees in the countries they invaded?
Was Sisera asleep when he was murdered?
Is all scripture inspired by God?
Should we let others see our good works?
Can God be seen ?
How many of Senaah's offspring returned from Babylon?
Should you serve God alone?
What is the earth set upon?
How should a man who has sex with a menstruating woman be punished?
Do bad things happen to good people?
What did the sign over Jesus' head say?
Did Jesus perform many signs and wonders?
Do Christians sin?
Where did Moses receive the Ten Commandments?
How many singing men and women returned from Babylon?
Were the men or angels inside the tomb sitting or standing?
What was Jesus' sixth commandment?
Does God sleep?
How many soldiers?
Who brought Joseph into Egypt?
How many sons did God have?
Was Jesus silent during his trial before Pilate?
Does God have a body?
How many stalls did Solomon have?
When were the stars made?
Is it wrong to steal?
How should strangers be treated?
Is Jesus peaceful ?
Where did Jesus tell his disciples to go after his resurrection?
Did the women immediately tell the disciples?
Did Jesus say, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up"?
Can God be tempted?
Who tempted David to number Israel?
Has God ever tempted anyone?
Is it OK to test (or tempt) God?
Can theives go to heaven?
How did God address Jesus at his baptism?
For How much did David by the threshing floor?
Was it OK to touch the risen Jesus before his ascension?
When when did the transfiguration occur?
May Adam eat from any tree?
How many animals of each kind did Noah take into the ark?
Is there an unforgivable sin?
Is it OK to marry unbelievers?
Where did God kill Uzza?
What did the soldiers give Jesus to drink?
Did the men with Paul hear the voice?
Where did Moses get water from a rock?
Does God ever tire?
Was Jonah swallowed by a fish or a whale?
Who made the arc of the covenant?
Who wrote the (second set of) ten commandments?
Does God destroy both the righteous and the wicked?
Do the wicked live long?
Is God's will always done in heaven?
Is wisdom a good thing?
Does wisdom make people happy?
How many men were in the king's presence?
Who is for or against Jesus?
Who did the women see at the tomb?
How many women came to the sepulchre?
Where did the women watching the crucifixion stand?
Can only God work wonders?
How are people judged by God?
How many of Zattu's offspring returned from Babylon?
Who was Zechariah's father?
How was Zedekiah related to Nebuchadnezzar?
Did Zedekiah see the king of Babylon?
Who was Zerubbabel's father?
Where does God dwell?

**15.3IQ (On Moderation)** · 02-06-2007, 10:08 AM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by Pastor Al E Pistle View Post

There are no contradictions in the Bible. There are merely idiots who cannot grasp the truth. God put many seeming inconstancies in the Bible to trip up unbelievers who try to pretend they have Divine knowledge. They don't. Maybe I should make a list for YOU and you see if you can find the correct explanations. Come back when you have a masters in Theology and can discuss them intelligently.

How many men did the chief of David's captains kill?
Was Abraham justified by faith or by works?
How many sons did Abraham have?

[snip]

well thanks for proving my point....why would god try to trick people...he already knows everything. what would be the point....sometimes i feel this site is put here as a joke and there are some really clever atheists behind your computers laughing at me taking you all seriously....

**Talitha** · 02-06-2007, 10:18 AM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Now who's deluded?

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 02-06-2007, 12:50 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post

well thanks for proving my point....why would god try to trick people...he already knows everything. what would be the point....sometimes i feel this site is put here as a joke and there are some really clever atheists behind your computers laughing at me taking you all seriously....

Well, come on dipstick. Answer the questions Pastor Pistle asked you. He spent a good amount of time preparing them just for you. You have been bragging to us all from the minute you logged into our Godly website about how much smarter you are than we True Christians™. You supposedly have a huge IQ, right? So answer the questions and show us all up.

BTW, I can answer each and every one of them, as can any Pastor here. You should see the tough ones.

We're all waiting to be dazzled by your brilliance, fool.

**Pastor Isaac Peters** · 02-06-2007, 02:48 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post

well thanks for proving my point....why would god try to trick people...he already knows everything. what would be the point....

What a silly question. You might as well ask why we should pray when God already knows what we need (Matthew 6:8).

sometimes i feel this site is put here as a joke and there are some really clever atheists behind your computers laughing at me taking you all seriously....

Are you that deluded by sick-ular "learning"? Our Church is every bit as real as Our Lord Jesus Christ and as the lake of fire into which He will drop-kick you for doubting Him. I am so tired of the hellbound trash who parade through here saying that we must be kidding because we preach the Word of God as it is, rather than as hippy-dippy liberal "Christians" think it should be.

**Rev. Dr. Davidson** · 02-06-2007, 02:54 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post

sometimes i feel this site is put here as a joke and there are some really clever atheists behind your computers laughing at me taking you all seriously....

We aren't laughing at you. We're weeping for another lost soul. We'll save the laughing for when we're brought into the kingdom of heaven.

But I will admit to giggling when I read a particularly poor sentence. Oh well... Jesus knows my faults, and all will be forgiven.

**Bobby-Joe** · 02-06-2007, 04:36 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by 15.3IQ View Post

well thanks for proving my point....why would god try to trick people...he already knows everything. what would be the point....sometimes i feel this site is put here as a joke and there are some really clever atheists behind your computers laughing at me taking you all seriously....

Friend,

Your problem is you don't understand there is no contradiction here; God just uses His power to change the facts each time. This is why the The Bible is the prouf of God existance because no were else to you have reality change from setance.

Also; please stop with these cheep shots like that we're atheists comment. We haven't got personal with you so we ask the same in return friend.

**Darren Ingram-Myers** · 02-06-2007, 06:30 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

You are seeing contradictions in Scripture only because you insist on reading it literally. As Maimonides said, we should not read it literally. Instead, we should engage the text to see how its moral truths are expressed through allegory.

**~~G-Baby~~** · 02-06-2007, 06:36 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

[quote=Pastor Ezekiel;40373]BTW, I can answer each and every one of them, as can any Pastor here. You should see the tough ones.quote]
Well, what are you waiting for..

Originally posted by Darren Ingram-Myers View Post

You are seeing contradictions in Scripture only because you insist on reading it literally. As Maimonides said, we should not read it literally. Instead, we should engage the text to see how its moral truths are expressed through allegory.

You're argueing with your own believe, you "baptists" take everything literally that is written in the bible..

**Darren Ingram-Myers** · 02-06-2007, 06:39 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by G-Baby View Post

You're argueing with your own believe, you "baptists" take everything literally that is written in the bible..

I'm a liberal Quaker, not a Baptist.

**~~G-Baby~~** · 02-06-2007, 06:39 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post

Friend,

Your problem is you don't understand there is no contradiction here; God just uses His power to change the facts each time. This is why the The Bible is the prouf of God existance because no were else to you have reality change from setance.

Also; please stop with these cheep shots like that we're atheists comment. We haven't got personal with you so we ask the same in return friend.

So, if I say today that 1+1 is 2 and tomorrow I say 1+1 is 3, I'm not a liar?

How idiot.. that's just a prouf that God DOESN'T exist and that all that has been made up..

**Bobby-Joe** · 02-06-2007, 06:41 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

[QUOTE=G-Baby;40497]

Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post

BTW, I can answer each and every one of them, as can any Pastor here. You should see the tough ones.quote]
Well, what are you waiting for..

You're argueing with your own believe, you "baptists" take everything literally that is written in the bible..

That sinner Ingram-Myers is no Baptist friend, muchless a Christian. That should be obvious to you if you bothered to read what he posted.

**Pastor Isaac Peters** · 02-06-2007, 06:43 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by G-Baby View Post

So, if I say today that 1+1 is 2 and tomorrow I say 1+1 is 3, I'm not a liar?

This isn't about what you say. Tell us what keeps God from saying it.

**Bobby-Joe** · 02-06-2007, 06:44 PM

Re: does the bible contradict itself?

Originally posted by G-Baby View Post

So, if I say today that 1+1 is 2 and tomorrow I say 1+1 is 3, I'm not a liar?

How idiot.. that's just a prouf that God DOESN'T exist and that all that has been made up..

You would be a liar friend, why? Because you can't change reality. God can. As the Bible says in Genesis with the animals in Noah's arc one day God can say 1+1=2 and then the very next 3+3+1=2! That is the power of the Lord for you friend. PRAISE!

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