[Chaos_Kitten]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

and.. all of goths in america are fats?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

never sniffed glue or wtver.. i love classsical music! I even like metal!!
I don't hate god... i just don't belive in god.. i belive in me, and sometimes is hard...

I don't blame you. I'm having a pretty hard time believing in you as well.

but.. if he forgive everyone, why will not forgive a homossexual?

He will forgive a repentant homosexual; He will not forgive an unrepentant sinner.

and.. all of goths in america are fats?

No, all of goths in America are fags. It's a mistake anyone could make.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

never sniffed glue or wtver.. i love classsical music! I even like metal!!
I don't hate god... i just don't belive in god.. i belive in me, and sometimes is hard...
but.. if he forgive everyone, why will not forgive a homossexual?

I've done you a favor queerboy by banning you from this Godly forum. you are a 16 year old drug addict troll who has come here for no good reason but to mock Christ, tell more lies and sow discord. God hates a liar and He hates a mocker and I'm going to cut off your opportunity to wallow any deeper in sin on God's favorite forum.

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

You'll thank me later, trust me.

[beautifulbloodsucker]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Okay, Hi Im misty
I am a very proud christian!
And ya know what else.
I am also a very very proud "Goth"!
You do not have any idea what your talking about.
I do almost all of those things.
But they are ways of life. People can be who they want, if they want to be goth and a christian let them.
Its not up to some guy who thinks he is GOD!
God loves everyone!
IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE!
Dont say kids are going to hell for eating chocolate!
Or for being a homo.
It is up to them. I know alot of people who are bi and a christian, but people like [[YOU]] make me want to learn some spell just so you can see the truth. Goth is just a label.
And you Mr. "I am god listen to me!" You wear black, its on your robes your suits your underwear and shoes its all over your house. Oh shucks your going to HELL and no one is going to stop you!
Ya know why?! Cause you label everyone who isnt "Perfect" like you
OH and I bet you have an unreal craving for sex. We are only human!
What do you expect of us?!
Being perfect is impossible.
I know I would save anyonne that I knew i could that was going to hell
EXCEPT YOU!
You're a pathetic excuse of a Christian, I really hope some day you eyes
will open and you'll see just how far in hell [[YOU]] are going.
I am positive that if you send something back it will be shuning me. I dont care you mean nothing to me.
I chose to be a goth because I express myself the way I want.
You have no right what so ever to tell anyone their child is going to hell.




[[Pathetic]]

[misunderstood_woman]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

What if you saw, during a casual service, a girl/woman walk in with two-toned hair, black eyeliner, black tennis shoes, stripped tights, black skirt & some random shirt.....BUT she was the most active member in your church because she LOVES God. Would you reject her & tell her she was going to hell? Because then you are JUDGING, something only God is supposed to do. God Judges people, you know how he judges, by your heart & your sins. Not by your clothing, music, food, tv, those are MATERIALS. We can NOT have them when we die, so why would God look at them? He doesn't, He looks at your sins, your heart & your soul.

I am 20 year old woman. I am VERY Christian, I have had a few experiences recently that have made God very apparent in my life. My problem is this list of things that make a child a Godless goth. I have a few friends who believe in God & go to Church, youth group & participate in many a thing because they are TRUE Christians, but they dress & do some of the things in this list that are SUPPOSEDLY un-Christian.
God loves you, if you believe in him. He does NOT look at clothing on a child, children are still pure. Even in their teens. Adults are the ones that need to watch themselves, because they have seen life. I do not think you should count a cereal as a work of the Devil. Count Chocula is a chocolate cereal that many small children even enjoy. it has nothing to do with the Devil. It is a catchy name & its a Halloween cereal.
I do not believe you understand Goths & that is why you are attacking them.

Tell me, does this person look like she is a goth or going to hell?
(the one in the back)

[Nobar King]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I can tell that misty is not even old enough to have passed punctuation class.

[beautifulbloodsucker]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

hello,,, I am beautifulbloodsucker`s Mom ,,, We are very proud of our daughter,, and who she is,,,,,, We are God Loving people who believe our mission to make known the love of Christ to all ,,, My daughter and her friend are the most caring and loving teenagers I have ever meet the wear their black and make up but what is that,, nothing,,, Our god loves us all does not matter what we wear ,,, I think your comments were wrong and they gave out the wrong impression,, Because the goth kids I know and go to church with are the best I hope we all can see things threw others eyes.. I wish you peace,, and hope your eyes open up a litle more to thje way things are .... PEACE..

[misunderstood_woman]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

[quote=misunderstood_woman;138986]What if you saw, during a casual service, a girl/woman walk in with two-toned hair, black eyeliner, black tennis shoes, stripped tights, black skirt & some random shirt.....BUT she was the most active member in your church because she LOVES God. Would you reject her & tell her she was going to hell? Because then you are JUDGING, something only God is supposed to do. God Judges people, you know how he judges, by your heart & your sins. Not by your clothing, music, food, tv, those are MATERIALS. We can NOT have them when we die, so why would God look at them? He doesn't, He looks at your sins, your heart & your soul.

I am 20 year old woman. I am VERY Christian, I have had a few experiences recently that have made God very apparent in my life. My problem is this list of things that make a child a Godless goth. I have a few friends who believe in God & go to Church, youth group & participate in many a thing because they are TRUE Christians, but they dress & do some of the things in this list that are SUPPOSEDLY un-Christian.
God loves you, if you believe in him. He does NOT look at clothing on a child, children are still pure. Even in their teens. Adults are the ones that need to watch themselves, because they have seen life. I do not think you should count a cereal as a work of the Devil. Count Chocula is a chocolate cereal that many small children even enjoy. it has nothing to do with the Devil. It is a catchy name & its a Halloween cereal.
I do not believe you understand Goths & that is why you are attacking them.

Tell me, does this person look like she is a goth or going to hell?
(the one in the back) the next picture is the same person, what do you think of that?

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

God loves everyone!
IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE!

No, it doesn't. Try reading the Bible for a change instead of making up nonsense.

Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
Ps 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Ps 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Pr 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate ... A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Ho 9:15 I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings.
Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Ro 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

As you can plainly see, the LORD hates the wicked. He hates the sin AND the sinner.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[misunderstood_woman]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Pastor Rueben, you must be very afraid of children who dress in dark clothes. Those verses do not even go with what she was trying to say. God does not Judge for clothes & other Materialistic things, he judges your heart, soul & sins.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Pastor Rueben, you must be very afraid of children who dress in dark clothes. Those verses do not even go with what she was trying to say. God does not Judge for clothes & other Materialistic things, he judges your heart, soul & sins.

You apparently suffer from a reading disorder.

The Goth sinneress said "God loves everyone".

Pastor Billy-Rueben replied" No He doesn't. Here in scripture it explains God hates those who sin."

Don't project your fear of the COMPLETE word of God on to us TRUE Christians woman.

[misunderstood_woman]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Bobby joe. You obviously do not understand how much of a Christian woman I am. I have had many an experience in my life that would tell you I am strong & am very Christian. I do not appreciate you thinking you can downgrade someone because you do not believe what God doesn't look at for judgment. What pastor Rueben wrote was verses that only said He hates sinners, we all know that. But what Misty was pointing out, is that God does NOT hate Goths. He loves them, because most do not sin against him. In fact, most go to church & involve themselves in youth. Goth is a "fashion" not a way of life.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

What pastor Rueben wrote was verses that only said He hates sinners, we all know that.

"BeautifulBloodSucker" didn't know that until we pointed it out, as evidenced by her claim that "God loves everyone! IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE!"

God does NOT hate Goths

What does God have to say about people who dress strangely or pretend to be vampires?

1 Thes. 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
Zeph 1:8 And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

You said this earlier:

He does NOT look at clothing on a child, children are still pure. Even in their teens. Adults are the ones that need to watch themselves, because they have seen life.

It's true that kids who are goths are not necessarily Hellbound, yet. There is still time to save them. That is the point of our goth ministry.

Jesus Himself said that the few go to Heaven and the many go to Hell (Mt 7:13-14). It's HARD to get into Heaven. Why would you encourage a lifestyle that isn't pleasing to God, hoping they will grow out of it before they become adults and need to "watch themselves", as you put it?

By the way, Reuben is my middle name. Nobody calls me "Pastor Reuben". Please call me either Pastor Billy-Reuben, Pastor Billy, Pastor Gibson, or just Billy is fine.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Bobby joe. You obviously do not understand how much of a Christian woman I am. I have had many an experience in my life that would tell you I am strong & am very Christian. I do not appreciate you thinking you can downgrade someone because you do not believe what God doesn't look at for judgment. What pastor Rueben wrote was verses that only said He hates sinners, we all know that.
But what Misty was pointing out, is that God does NOT hate Goths. He loves them, because most do not sin against him. In fact, most go to church & involve themselves in youth. Goth is a "fashion" not a way of life.

And our point is Goths are in sin against God. Transvestitism, homosexuality, sexual permissiveness, magic and paganism all intrinsic features of the Goth life philosophy and are sins in the Eyes of the Lord. The best a Goth “Christian” could hope for is to a highly superficial form of “Goth” and even they are pushing it with The Lord since He does judge on appearances. You do recall God struck Abraham’s wife Sara barren in punishment for Abraham claiming Sara was Abraham’s sister? What do you think He will do with a pretend witch/ homosexual who hides their Christian faith and values behind a façade of depravity?

[beautifulbloodsucker]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

ok this is Misty`s Mom again,,, I cant take this stuff,, you say God dont like sinners ,,, then he does not like or love any of us because we are all sinners.. and this is not the kind of religion I want to teach my kids,,, Our god loves us all because we all fall short of his glory,, And to get on here and talk the way you do about Goth and Gays,, you really scare me ... Because our God loves us all even though we all fall short you have no right to judge that is His job NOT yours Thank God ! I am thinking very seriously about banning her from this site because you really are not saying what I want her to hear ...... PEACE