[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Not planning to either kill myself or 'find Jesus'.

I'm planning to enjoy my life with being burdened by any religious rules.

You do understand Jesus has other plans for you and we TRUE Christians will make sure HIS will is done. PRAISE!

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Well friend, as they say be part of the solution and not of the problem. Perhaps you can suggest new ways we TRUE Christians can persecute Goths?

Just stick to what you know, the clothes, makeup, maybe the evil imagery. No need to make things up ... I hear god doesn't like liars.

Eric Harris
Dylan Klebold - Catholic
Vlad Dracula - Do you mean Vlad Dracul? And the Dragon or Impaler? Either way, Romanian royalty and Goth by adoption.
Kip Kinkel - not goth and clinically depressed, lack of medication I'd say.
Kimveer Gill - Metal head who though Evanescence and Marilyn Manson are goth
Jeff Weise - Depressed Nazi, enough said
Scott Dyleski - Only thing that ties him to Goth is the media, and I bet you can agree that the media is far from correct on many things. Anyway have you looked over this guys life, tell me you didn't see that one coming ...
Elizabeth Bathory - Goth by adoption
Jeremy Steinke - Punk rocker
Damien Echols - Your homework (Blood of Innocents by Guy Reel and Devil's Knot by Mara Leveritt)
Jesse Misskelly - Look up
Jason Baldwin - come on, something new? Look up
Bard Eithun - Black metal does not equate to Goth
Varg Vikernes - same as above

All goths, all horrific murderers. Tell me this: when was the last time a goth was in the news who didn't brutally murder or torture someone?

Last time I saw that was ...

Yang Xinhai - killed 65
Luis Garavito - ~140
Pedro Alonso López - 300+
Daniel Camargo Barbosa - 72 young girls
Marcel André Henri Félix Petiot - 63 refugees
Fritz Haarmann - 24+ boys and young men, sold their meat
Thug Behram - 931
Robert John Maudsley - 4, but famous
Charles Albright - 3-ish, removed eyes
Richard Angelo - 25, and a nurse
David Richard Berkowitz (Son of Sam) - 6, Christian, born again or something I think
Theodore Robert "Ted" Bundy - 30 young women, republican and necrophiliac to boot
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer - enough, necrophilia, dismemberment, cannibalism and Christian
John Wayne Gacy - 33, a clown
Donald Henry Gaskins, Jr - 200+
Dr. H. H. Holmes - Possibly Hundreds, convicted of enough
William Adams Hickman - Enough, killed in the name of Christ

And that's gonna need to be enough for the time being <cough> Seung-Hui Cho <cough> Christian

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Just stick to what you know, the clothes, makeup, maybe the evil imagery. No need to make things up ... I hear god doesn't like liars.

What about ...

Yang Xinhai - killed 65
Luis Garavito - ~140
Pedro Alonso López - 300+
Daniel Camargo Barbosa - 72 young girls
Marcel André Henri Félix Petiot - 63 refugees
Fritz Haarmann - 24+ boys and young men, sold their meat
Thug Behram - 931
Robert John Maudsley - 4, but famous
Charles Albright - 3-ish, removed eyes
Richard Angelo - 25, and a nurse
David Richard Berkowitz (Son of Sam) - 6, Christian, born again or something I think
Theodore Robert "Ted" Bundy - 30 young women, republican and necrophiliac to boot
Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer - enough, necrophilia, dismemberment, cannibalism and Christian
John Wayne Gacy - 33, a clown
Donald Henry Gaskins, Jr - 200+
Dr. H. H. Holmes - Possibly Hundreds, convicted of enough
William Adams Hickman - Enough, killed in the name of Christ

And that's gonna need to be enough for the time being <cough> Seung-Hui Cho <cough> Christian

Last time I saw that was ... well never because they just don't seem to be involved in that sort of thing

Pardon, corrections it's late

[Sista Lateefah]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer - enough, necrophilia, dismemberment, cannibalism and Christian

Jeffey Dahmer had been a CHRISTIAN!?! Jeffrey Dahmer had been a homosessal and a pedophile. Do Christianity tolerate either of them thangs? NO. Therefo'e he had not been a Christian. Now, if he had repented of that stuff and had come to the LORD - from a genuine desire to be Saved©, not just so folk gonna feel sorry for him and try to get him outta jail - then he be in Heaven right now (while Gandhi be simultaneously burnin' in HELL. PRAISE! ). But see, if that had been the case and he had got Saved© afterwards, then he had not been a Christian when he had did them murders. That mean you is a lie and you is tryin'a mislead folk up in here.

I don't know 'bout them other folk on that list, but this right here had been enough to discredit yo whole arguments fo' me. Jesus do not like liars, and you needs Him to rescue you from yo evil, deceptiful ways.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I understand why you say the things about the clothes, make-up, and 'evil' whatever it is you find evil about Goths. But don't you think labeling Goths as murderers and drug abusers is taking it a bit far?

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend the fellow who named themself after heroin by suggesting they take drugs. Goths take drugs, and they shoot up schools, simple as.

As for your other list
Eric Harris - Goth
Dylan Klebold - Catholic, but still a goth, and by no means a Christian.
Vlad Dracula - Do you mean Vlad Dracul? And the Dragon or Impaler? Either way, Romanian royalty and Goth by adoption. And why do goths worship murderers so much?
Kip Kinkel - not goth and clinically depressed, lack of medication I'd say. Since when were goths not depressed?
Kimveer Gill - Metal head who though Evanescence and Marilyn Manson are goth. So? They ARE goth.
Jeff Weise - Depressed Nazi goth, enough said
Scott Dyleski - Only thing that ties him to Goth is the media, and I bet you can agree that the media is far from correct on many things. Anyway have you looked over this guys life, tell me you didn't see that one coming ... So are you claiming that Velvet Acid Christ and gothic symbolism aren't goth? Of course it's predictable that he was going to kill someone, he was a goth after all.
Elizabeth Bathory - Goth by adoption Again, why are you so keen on adopting murderers?
Jeremy Steinke - Punk rocker That is a slander and a lie. Goth through and through: Steinke and his young co-accused killer were into goth culture.
Damien Echols - Your homework (Blood of Innocents by Guy Reel and Devil's Knot by Mara Leveritt)
Jesse Misskelly - Look up
Jason Baldwin - come on, something new? Look up
Bard Eithun - Black metal equates to Goth
Varg Vikernes - same as above

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Just stick to what you know, the clothes, makeup, maybe the evil imagery. No need to make things up ... I hear god doesn't like liars.

I was thinking more along the lines of what we TRUE Christians should do to Goths. Before stating the obvious Lake Freehold is only so deep and it would only end up pollution our water supply.

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend the fellow who named themself after heroin by suggesting they take drugs. Goths take drugs, and they shoot up schools, simple as.

I think I've sufficiently explained that the only thing that makes a goth a goth is the musical genre. Everything else is choice.

As for your other list
Eric Harris - Goth
Dylan Klebold - Catholic, but still a goth, and by no means a Christian.
Vlad Dracula - Do you mean Vlad Dracul? And the Dragon or Impaler? Either way, Romanian royalty and Goth by adoption. And why do goths worship murderers so much?
Kip Kinkel - not goth and clinically depressed, lack of medication I'd say. Since when were goths not depressed?
Kimveer Gill - Metal head who though Evanescence and Marilyn Manson are goth. So? They ARE goth.
Jeff Weise - Depressed Nazi goth, enough said
Scott Dyleski - Only thing that ties him to Goth is the media, and I bet you can agree that the media is far from correct on many things. Anyway have you looked over this guys life, tell me you didn't see that one coming ... So are you claiming that Velvet Acid Christ and gothic symbolism aren't goth? Of course it's predictable that he was going to kill someone, he was a goth after all.
Elizabeth Bathory - Goth by adoption Again, why are you so keen on adopting murderers?
Jeremy Steinke - Punk rocker That is a slander and a lie. Goth through and through: Steinke and his young co-accused killer were into goth culture.
Damien Echols - Your homework (Blood of Innocents by Guy Reel and Devil's Knot by Mara Leveritt)
Jesse Misskelly - Look up
Jason Baldwin - come on, something new? Look up
Bard Eithun - Black metal equates to Goth
Varg Vikernes - same as above

Seems I didn't see Harris there, Lutheran and as far from goth as Kimveer Gill.
As for what is Goth and what is not I'll point you towards something a certain communist homosexual wrote.
Why are Goths interested in Vlad Dracul? Because Vlad the Impaler inspired to one of the most compelling pieces of literature ever written. Besides the Draculs were warlords, not murderers.
Elizabeth Bathory - Thought to have inspired Bram Stoker's Dracula
As for all the others, not goth. You and the media are just looking for a scapegoat and think the Goths are an easy target.

I was thinking more along the lines of what we TRUE Christians should do to Goths. Before stating the obvious Lake Freehold is only so deep and it would only end up pollution our water supply.

Well you as "true Christians" should just ignore us, there is no punishment crueler ... <sob>

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Well you as "true Christians" should just ignore us, there is no punishment crueler ... <sob>

Now friend, you know we couldn't possible do that. We are not cruel and heartless.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I for one don't care what sad excuses and stupid lies you vile goths can come up with..

We KNOW, no matter how much you deny it, that the only thing you like more than crying & whining is murdering innocent Christians.
And if I spot ANY of you on my property I'm going to excercise my constitutional right to self defense!

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

I for one don't care what sad excuses and stupid lies you vile goths can come up with..

We KNOW, no matter how much you deny it, that the only thing you like more than crying & whining is murdering innocent Christians.
And if I spot ANY of you on my property I'm going to excercise my constitutional right to self defense!

For every supposed "goth" murder there have been a million Christian murders, I think YOU are the ones you should be most cautious of.

Now friend, you know we couldn't possible do that. We are not cruel and heartless.

Then be reasonable.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

For every supposed "goth" murder there have been a million Christian murders, I think YOU are the ones you should be most cautious of.


Then be reasonable.

How about we look at per capita, instead?

And also, how many True Christians have committed murder, versus how many Goths?

To my knowledge, no True Christian has ever committed murder.

[Bwack Lizard]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

True Christians? That's just <bleep>. Either you call yourself a christian which means you belive in a god or you don't call yourself a christian which means you do not believe in a god. Non-christians believe that they will not go to hell. I will not go to hell because I don't believe in that. You "true christians" are just a small group in the intarnetz. Why would people believe in your thoughts?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

True Christians? That's just bullshit. Either you call yourself a christian which means you belive in a god or you don't call yourself a christian which means you do not believe in a god. Non-christians believe that they will not go to hell. I will not go to hell because I don't believe in that. You "true christians" are just a small group in the intarnetz. Why would people believe in your thoughts?

They should belive out thoughts because they are God's friend. That is why we are TRUE Christians, we are TRUELY following Christ's example to the letter.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

True Christians? That's just bullshit. Either you call yourself a christian which means you belive in a god or you don't call yourself a christian which means you do not believe in a god. Non-christians believe that they will not go to hell. I will not go to hell because I don't believe in that. You "true christians" are just a small group in the intarnetz. Why would people believe in your thoughts?

True Christians are people who follow ALL of the Bible.

False Christians follow the bits they like.

No True Christian has ever been convicted of murder, to my knowledge.

Meanwhile, Satanists "believe in a god". Are they Christian, in your book? Muslims "believe in a god". Does that make them Christian?

NO. They do not believe in God, who impregnated a woman with Himself so He could come to Earth as a human, and temporarily sacrifice Himself to Himself in order to eliminate the requirement for animal sacrifices, all without really changing any of the other laws He created for His creation, that being humans.

[Bwack Lizard]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

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