[Des]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

That seems unlikely. It should be at least 110%.

The other 15% lie and claim they don't.

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

You guys are seriously messed up. You say that left handed people are going to hell? Explain to me why it says in Judges three 20 that the LORD raised up Ehud who was a left handed judge?

[Alvin Moss]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

You guys are seriously messed up. You say that left handed people are going to hell? Explain to me why it says in Judges three 20 that the LORD raised up Ehud who was a left handed judge?

Pardon me, but I don't think we've been properly introduced. My name is Alvin Moss and you are...? We ask that all newcomers make a proper introduction in our introduction section. Please proceed there and make your introduction before any further outbursts. Thank you in advance.

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

I'm sorry. My name is Justin, I am a Christian. I believe that Jesus died on the cross and rose again to pay for my sins. Now respectfully can you answer my question? If left handed people are going to hell, then why did God raise up a left handed judge?

[Des]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Where exactly does it say Ehud made it into heaven? As best as I recall, Ehud was simply a tool which God used for Righteous murder. I certainly don't remember it saying that Ehud was received into heaven. God also used Satan to test Job. Does that mean Satan is in heaven?

Think before you theologize next time, alright?

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

The Bible doesn't mention that a lot of people went to heaven. It doesn't mean that they didn't go to heaven. And what this forum is implying is that left handed people are evil while right handed people are good. Did you know that Adolf Hitler was right handed? Did you also know that the picture at the beginning of this article of Obama and his wife Michelle was actually a mirrored image? They actually had their right hands over their heart. I am in no way supporting Obama and I think that he is totally against God, but I think that you should get your facts straight before posting anything.

[Didymus Much]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

The Bible doesn't mention that a lot of people went to heaven. It doesn't mean that they didn't go to heaven...

Equally, it doesn't mean that they did. Absent proof of Ehud's ascension, you cannot use him as an example of someone left-handed going to Heaven.

...And what the Bible is implying is that left handed people are evil while right handed people are good...

FTFY.

...Did you know that Adolf Hitler was right handed?...

Go look up "Godwin fail".

...I think that you should get your facts straight before posting anything.

I think you should match Landover's record for saving souls before criticizing their methods.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

The Bible doesn't mention that a lot of people went to heaven. It doesn't mean that they didn't go to heaven. And what this forum is implying is that left handed people are evil while right handed people are good. Did you know that Adolf Hitler was right handed? Did you also know that the picture at the beginning of this article of Obama and his wife Michelle was actually a mirrored image? They actually had their right hands over their heart. I am in no way supporting Obama and I think that he is totally against God, but I think that you should get your facts straight before posting anything.

Dear Miss Jbh,

You are using and ex silentio argument (actually, a fallacy). You cannot make justifications based on information that isn't there. Still, you are partly correct. Left-handed people have the same chance of going to Heaven as normal people. They have to Repent and get a Baptism (Acts 2:38), Fear God and follow His commandments (Ecclesiastes 12:13).

In fact, also Mr. Hitler had exactly the same chance of going into Heaven. From God's viewpoint his sins were repulsive but we must remember that from the viewpoint of God ALL sins are equally repulsive (James 2:10; except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit which it worse than the others; Matthew 12:31). Between the cyanide capsule, the gunshot AND the ultimate loss of consciousness in the Berlin Bunker, there was a millisecond of time during which Jesus could have made Mr. Hitler Repent and accept Him as the Savior. If this took place, then we can expect to see Mr. Hitler in Heaven. It is the same for those who are left-handed. They can become normal people through this process. They can get into Heaven. And IF they do, they (and Mr. Hitler) are going to be among the most prestigious souls over there. This is explained by Jesus:

Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Furthermore, being a sinner is detrimental to one's understanding of data input from various sources. Please, do not trust idle gossip about Photoshopping. There rumors are usually faulty. God can punish sinners by giving them misinformation.

2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

What if the other pictures are mirror images? What if the one in this thread is the actual Truth™? It probably is, as it is compatible with the Bible and your opinions aren't. That's how to assess the truth value of a proposition: You consult the Bible. What about the fate of Mr. Obama, then? Ultimately, and I know this might be hard for you to accept (God is sometimes almost too merciful, for instance, all the God-fearing men were anticipating Niniveh to be incinerated by God because of the grievous sins committed there but God was merciful much to the dismay of the Prophet Jonah, who had a hard time accepting this but he did and so we must also accept that God sometimes spares sinners after they repent; Jonah 4:2), also Mr. Obama has the same chance. He can get into Heaven if he repents, etc. I surmise that compared to normal people, his sins are even worse than those of the average left-handed men or Mr. Hitler, so if he repents, his place in Heaven will be mighty. I admit that (fortunately) this is an unlikely scenario but as unbiased Christians, we must take this into account.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

You totally ignored the issue here. And did I understand what you said correctly? You said that Landover has won more souls to Christ than I have so that means they have the right to post false information? I also take high offense to what was being said about left handed people. My father was born left handed. God created him like that. And the verses that are being used to support the argument that left handed people are bad are out of context. A verse that was being used was let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth. That is just saying that when you give, do it in secret. Don't tell everybody what you're giving so that you can receive the glory for it. And why would Jesus say that there will be one who sits on his right hand and one that sits on his left hand in heaven? Just because the Bible says certain things about people going to the right and to the left doesn't make one worse than the other. Why would God make us with two hands if we could only use one?

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

With respect Mr. White, but there is no way to prove that either picture is original. You can look at the zoomed out picture of both and you'll see that in the one with Obama and Michelle with their left hands over their hearts, every other person has their left hands over their hearts. Do you really think that every single person would put their left hands on their hearts? People try to twist things on the Internet to make people they don't like look like fools. The picture of Obama was one of them. He had his right hand over his heart at that moment. It was a memorial to the 9/11 victims.

[Didymus Much]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

...My father was born left handed. God created him like that...

Because God creates all of us as sinners. No one is born perfect.

Think before you theologize next time, alright?

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

He is still left handed...

[Elmer G. White]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

With respect Mr. White, but there is no way to prove that either picture is original.

I agree. When we use the methods available to us in the secular world, everything becomes murky and unreliable. It is all about voting (if 87% say one is the original the the other one is not it MUST be so) or statistics (we can say with 76% certainty that it was the left one MUST be the one).

I am more and more distressed that this phenomenon has spread also to formerly God-fearing people and issues that are about Spirituality. When it comes to the Bible (in its perfect KJV form) and God there are NO DOUBTS. If and when we take this as our starting point, we can discard the voting and the statistics. The voters may be wrong and, in fact, the whole concept of statistics is based on the notion that there is always the chance of being wrong. They cannot be trusted. Thus, let us take the Bible and look at it. Regarding Mr. Obama, we must first assess if the things he does are sinful. This is easy. They are. He endorses sodomy (Leviticus 18:22), female emancipation (1 Timothy 2:12) and secular medicine instead of prayer (2 Chronicles 16: 12-13).

Statistics change. Voters change their minds. God is always the same.

Deuteronomy 33:27
The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.

Now we can tell which one is the original. It is the one that is compatible with the Bible and based on how Mr. Obama's choices fit the Bible. This is how Creation Science works. This is how we have been able to assess that the theories of evolution, geology, continental drift and Big Bang cosmology are not 95% wrong but 100% erroneous.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Me. White, I agree that Obama supports many things that are unbiblical. I disagree on the majority always being right. And I also disagree with how being left handed is a sin. If you read my post before the one that I sent to you you'll see why I don't believe that it is a sin to be left handed. Also, the Bible never specifically says anywhere that being left handed is a sin.

[Jbh5472]

Re: STOP being Left-handed!!!

Also, just because Obama does many things wrong does not prove that the picture is original.