Why all the hate???

[Ruthy_Clark]

Yea, I only been on these forums a day an I just wanted to ask... why all the hate?

I read a few of the threads here, and I jus wanted to cry. It seems lik for every lovin message of God's unconditional love, there was another filled with hate an the devil. That not rite!

Can someon tell me why all thes gothics hate us so? Is it cuz we all Christians? I heard they all Satanics who hate God and spit on littl baby Jesus? Uuughhh... it's sick! What make em lik that? Is it cos they all retarded?

My momma said, if you don't have somethin nice to say, don't say it at all.

[SUV]

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There! Is that better?

[Ruthy_Clark]

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There! Is that better?

Gee, thanx.

[SUV]

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Thank JESUS - everything we do is for Him

[Nigra Squaw]

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Oh honey, not all goths hate God and Jesus. I personally love both of them. I thank them everyday for everything they have given us.

The problem alot of us have with this place is that all these people seem bent on depicting us as evil, satan worshipping blasphemers. We're not all like that.

[RevColinJamesTodd]

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Can someon tell me why all thes gothics hate us so? Is it cuz we all Christians? I heard they all Satanics who hate God and spit on littl baby Jesus?

You heard right, Ruthy.

They all go out burning Churches, shooting the Christian kids in schools, digging up graves, having sexual relations with corpses. You don't catch 'normal' kids getting up to that sort of stuff. It is a dilemma?

What drives a good Christian kid with good grades and wealthy parents (Like the Columbine killers) into such a deranged Satanic homicidal goth nutball? I recon the music plays a big part of it. All that hate for Christ, backwards messages hidden in songs urging them to kill kill kill.

People like Manson, telling his brainwashed fans to kill their parents, their friends, then themselves. You know, these goths venomously defend their lifestyle of violence and debauchery. Yet they fail to see the fact that the goth lifestyle can turn weak-minded, impressionable and easily lead children into potential terrorists.

Heck, they play goth music to the prisoners in Guantanamo, as a form of torture. What kind of effect does it have played 24-7? I guess those effects are evident from Columbine, Lely, Dawson College, Red Lake, the Church burnings in Norway, the riots in Germany. Gothic music is the Devil's greatest trick.

[RevColinJamesTodd]

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Oh honey, not all goths hate God and Jesus. I personally love both of them.

Do you own any Harry Potter books? Have you seen any Harry Potter Movies? Do you own a copy of any books on wicca, the occult, black magic, the Satanic Bible, the Necronomicon, and Ouija Boards. Do you have any films on vampirism, horror. Do you dress like a goths? Do you listen to gothic music, heavy metal, satanic rock. Do you have any Marilyn Manson CDs in your home. Do any of your friends own any of the above?

These are just a few of the questions I have for you. If the answer to any of them is 'yes', then you cannot worship God and Christ. You cannot worship God, when you have invited evil into your home.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Oh honey, not all goths hate God and Jesus. I personally love both of them. I thank them everyday for everything they have given us.

The problem alot of us have with this place is that all these people seem bent on depicting us as evil, satan worshipping blasphemers. We're not all like that.

As I've pointed out innumerable times, there is no such thing as a "Christian goth." It is impossible to embrace gothism and Jesus simultaneously. To accept the gift of Christ's temporary death and be washed clean with His Sweet blood is to reject all that goth stands for.

Claiming to love Jesus while being a goth pervert is like some queer claiming to love Jesus while being sodomized. Like a papist dog worshiping a statue of Mary, then claiming to be a Christian. Ridiculous, impossible and blasphemous.

[Nigra Squaw]

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Do you own any Harry Potter books? Have you seen any Harry Potter Movies? Do you own a copy of any books on wicca, the occult, black magic, the Satanic Bible, the Necronomicon, and Ouija Boards. Do you have any films on vampirism, horror. Do you dress like a goths? Do you listen to gothic music, heavy metal, satanic rock. Do you have any Marilyn Manson CDs in your home. Do any of your friends own any of the above?

These are just a few of the questions I have for you. If the answer to any of them is 'yes', then you cannot worship God and Christ. You cannot worship God, when you have invited evil into your home.

EXCUSE ME. Harry Potter is FANTASY and FICTION. Yes, I own all seven, and I love them all. If you would bother to read them you would understand that they have EVERYTHING to do with GOOD TRIUMPHING OVER EVIL.

I do not own books on Wicca because I am not Wiccan. I do not study Satanism because I am not a Satanist. I do not tinker with Ouija boards because they open up doorways to places that should not be opened and let spirits of ill intent wander free. THE NECRONOMICON IS AN ART BOOK. It is the Art of Mr. H.R Giger, and yes, he is a twisted twisted man and I am not particularly fond of his art because I find it a bit too morbid for my tastes.

I watch horror movies because they interest me. I am a goth. I dress like a goth. I listen to Nine Inch Nails and the Cruxshadows because their music moves me to be a better person. To qoute the Cruxshadows " do not injustice to another, defend the weak and innocent, let truth and honor always guide, let courage find the life within. Stand up when no one else is willing, act not in hatred or in spite, be to this world as a perfect knight, even if it means your life"

Marilyn Manson scares the pants off me. He's a freak of nature, even by goth standards. Yes some of my friends enjoy his music.

JUST BECAUSE I AM GOTH DOES NOT MAKE ME EVIL. I am a Person. I am a person with morals. I do not steal, lie, worship false gods. I do not practice necrophilia and have no desire to. I do not preform animal sacrifices. I do not speak in tongues.

I am a part of the Lions Club of Apex North Carolina. I support Breast Cancer Awareness. I donate my money to Lukeimia Reaserch. To Autism Research.

I live at home with my disabled mother to care for her because she cannot get by on her own.

So for you to sit and pass judgement on me simply because of my music and clothing choice, shame on you for calling yourself a good christian.
AND SHAME ON YOU FOR TELLING THIS GIRL THAT WE ARE ALL LIKE THAT.
Maybe one in one hundred goths are like that and ya know something? Most of us won't have anything to do with the ones that are like that.
You get freaks in every social grouping, ours is no different.

[Nigra Squaw]

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As I've pointed out innumerable times, there is no such thing as a "Christian goth." It is impossible to embrace gothism and Jesus simultaneously. To accept the gift of Christ's temporary death and be washed clean with His Sweet blood is to reject all that goth stands for.

Claiming to love Jesus while being a goth pervert is like some queer claiming to love Jesus while being sodomized. Like a papist dog worshiping a statue of Mary, then claiming to be a Christian. Ridiculous, impossible and blasphemous.

Alright, you people don't seem to understand. So let me make it clear.
GOTH IS NOT A RELIGION. IT IS A FASHION STATEMENT.

We don't blaspheme. As a matter of fact, some of the most well loved gothic music centers around loving God and striving to do good in the world despite everything that may hold you down.

Examples: Sophia: "you cannot map the ways of divinity......
This much is known...
only unto God

and through these doubts
and through your confusion
know that you are chosen to this fight
look to find a soul filled with compassion
look to see see a living source of light"

Winterborn: " Hold your head up high-for there is no greater love
Think of the faces of the people you defend

And promise me, they will never see the tears within our eyes
Although we are men with mortal sins, angels never cry

So bury fear for fate draws near and hide the signs of pain
With noble acts, the bravest souls endure the heart's remains
Discard regret, that in this debt a better world is made
That children of a newer day might remember, and avoid our fate.


And in the fury of this darkest hour we will be your light
You've asked me for my sacrifice and I am Winter born
Without denying, a faith in God that I have never known
I hear the angels call my name and I am Winter born "

The Seraphs: " One dream of God
One dream of less

One dream of strength and cowardice
With the rage of the seraphs at my side

One dream of man
One dream of hate
One dream of love
One dream of hate
With the rage of the seraphs at my side "


So you, Preacher Man, you can take your comment and eat it with a knife and fork because I am assuredly goth and I do assuredly love the God that put me on this planet and gave me life and I do assuredly love his one and only son who died for my sins to save my soul.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Look here little lady; you are an unwelcome guest on this forum. If you don't start showing more respect to your betters, then you will be asked to leave.

Don't you drunken savages ever put down the firewater?

[Nigra Squaw]

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It's going to be a sad sad day for the Landover Baptist Church the day I decide to go on a roadtrip you realize....

I'll be sure to stop by and sing the most beautiful song I know at the top of my lungs in full-out goth getup in your church in the middle of Sunday morning mass.

Go ahead and ban me. All you're really proving is that you're afraid you might be wrong.

And for the record, I am not a squaw, Native never called their women that. The French called their women that. I'm a shaman, or medicine woman.

And I don't drink, so it'd be hard to put down the 'firewater' when I don't pick it up to begin with.

[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

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Alright, you people don't seem to understand. So let me make it clear.
GOTH IS NOT A RELIGION. IT IS A FASHION STATEMENT.

Blah, Blah, Blah, Heaps of prose, one may think she is religious by it. BLAH.BLAH.BLAH.

OK, I get your point. Your trite, shallow and are totally drawn into and committed to consumer culture.

Your use of religious symbols in this context makes you a bigger blasphemer than I first thought.

[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

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It's going to be a sad sad day for the Landover Baptist Church the day I decide to go on a roadtrip you realize....

I'll be sure to stop by and sing the most beautiful song I know at the top of my lungs in full-out goth getup in your church in the middle of Sunday morning mass.

Go ahead and ban me. All you're really proving is that you're afraid you might be wrong.

And for the record, I am not a squaw, Native never called their women that. The French called their women that. I'm a shaman, or medicine woman.

And I don't drink, so it'd be hard to put down the 'firewater' when I don't pick it up to begin with.

You should get acquainted with Dogspitasshat. She's a Wiccan Injun Shaman. Her training was extensive and over two years. It really shows too.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/member.php?u=5685

You two could swap recipes while saving the world.

[Nigra Squaw]

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I know...you did not....just SLANDER the lead singer of the Cruxshadows.

You didn't.


You know. I don't sleep at night. I stalk the streets looking to drain the life force from loud mouth biblethumpers who don't know their place.

Don't smack talk those lyrics. DO NOT.

https://www.cruxshadows.com

Cruxshadows: Those who stand in the shadow of the cross.

THAT'S RIGHT MOTHERLICKERS. CHRISTIAN. GOTH. MUSIC.